Cryptocasino Help

[shadow123]

Hit a problem today with Cryptopay,deposited £500 exchanged it for Litecoin, tried to send it to a wallet, said I had hit the monthly oubound transfer limit and could only send 400 odd euros,They still allow unlimited deposits which is a bit crap to say the least.
sent the 400 Euro to BC Game, managed to double it, now need to find a withdrawal method that wont charge the earth.
Cryptopay still have £120 of funds I cant access till the limit is reset,not that that is a massive problem, just annoying.
Spose its all part of the learning curve

 

[Deeplay]

Hit a problem today with Cryptopay,deposited £500 exchanged it for Litecoin, tried to send it to a wallet, said I had hit the monthly oubound transfer limit and could only send 400 odd euros,They still allow unlimited deposits which is a bit crap to say the least.
sent the 400 Euro to BC Game, managed to double it, now need to find a withdrawal method that wont charge the earth.
Cryptopay still have £120 of funds I cant access till the limit is reset,not that that is a massive problem, just annoying.
Spose its all part of the learning curve

Luno fees reasonable on withdraws and they do withdraws 24/7 - my last withdraw the other week I did around 1am - faster payment and it was in my bank in around 20 mins.

 

[ritae]

These are some thoughts from a low-roller, 60-something-year-old woman from the UK who started playing at crypto casinos 10 days ago.

After some research, I decided to take the plunge and play at some of the well-known crypto sites. The hardest part was opening Skrill, coinbase etc with the verification of holding a passport selfie etc.

The first casino accepted my debit card with an £8 fee (was £250 deposit), could play immediately - I had some big hits on bonus buys and cashed out £1600 to coinbase. Instant withdrawal and hit my wallet at coinbase in 30 minutes. I withdrew £1600 from coinbase to my bank account with a £47 pound fee. Expensive but could have been worse as BTC crashed 5% the next day!

Second casino (Stake) I sent money through Skrill, took 30 minutes to reach my account. I was charged £4 for £100 deposit from debit card! I Won and cashed out £250, but immediately got a suspension email saying I was banned because I was in the UK. The withdrawal was processed and my account was closed.

The third casino (BC Game) sent £500 through Skrill, reached the account in 20 minutes and I could play in GBP which was really good. Lucky hits on Hacksaw games and cashed out £1000. Instant withdrawal to coinbase within the hour.

Finally, it is ENJOYABLE to play slots again. High RTPs are noticeable, and longer play sessions. Autoplay, is great, and bonus buys are fantastic (no more hours for Bonanza bonus) - my biggest enjoyment is playing games that have been removed from the UK market, many NetEnt titles for example. Also, I can play games that haven't even been released yet at sites like Videoslots, Mr Green.

This feels like 10 years ago when you could play slots the way they were intended to play.

 

[shadow123]

Certainly is a refreshing experience playing slots how you should be able to again.Really enjoy the lack
all the nanny state interference and deposits certainly last a hell of a lot longer, even on a losing session you still
feel you have had entertainment for your money.I have been pretty lucky so far, only a couple of losing sessions
and well up overall.Remember though that its totally up to you to keep control, as long as you keep depositing, the casino will
happily take it without question.

 

[justdoit]

I did small withdraw on Kraken today wtf they have hidden chargers
they charger £13 on their wallet plus they add £29.99 when they send, they keep BS saying my bank charger me £29.99, I ask my bank they sad we dont charger any fees for money coming in to your account

 

[shady]

And kraken was going to be my go-to for a Crypto withdrawal. ?

 

[bamberfishcake]

I did small withdraw on Kraken today wtf they have hidden chargers
they charger £13 on their wallet plus they add £29.99 when they send, they keep BS saying my bank charger me £29.99, I ask my bank they sad we dont charger any fees for money coming in to your account

Did you withdraw GBP? Kraken or Kraken Pro?

Just wondering if that is a conversion charge. It doesn't seem right. I have not used Kraken yet, but it is highly recommended by the crypto YouTubers and community, so you would assume this kind of charge would be spotted.

 

[justdoit]

Did you withdraw GBP? Kraken or Kraken Pro?

Just wondering if that is a conversion charge. It doesn't seem right. I have not used Kraken yet, but it is highly recommended by the crypto YouTubers and community, so you would assume this kind of charge would be spotted.

just normal Kraken, they try to blame my bank for charge, after they sad we have no control of the bank,

 

[bamberfishcake]

just normal Kraken, they try to blame my bank for charge, after they sad we have no control of the bank,

Yes, many exchanges (perhaps all) have shut down staking services for UK and US.

I don't think that has anything to do with the fee though.

 

[shadow123]

Signed up to Kracken pro today, used it for withdrawal from BC Game to bank via bank transfer.Dont know what the charge was
but it was very low.
Had a right grilling last night from Lloyds bank when trying to set up a bank transfer to Moonpay,triggered flags all over, spent 2 hours
on the phone sorting it out.They were all right about it and treated me with a damn sight more respect than casinos do.

 

[justdoit]

Signed up to Kracken pro today, used it for withdrawal from BC Game to bank via bank transfer.Dont know what the charge was
but it was very low.
Had a right grilling last night from Lloyds bank when trying to set up a bank transfer to Moonpay,triggered flags all over, spent 2 hours
on the phone sorting it out.They were all right about it and treated me with a damn sight more respect than casinos do.

I try to do that low withdraw but they told me system is down, than they told me do swift transfer it may take longer but is £13 charger ok, 2 days later got pay plus £29.99 chargers, I guess I stick with my Crypto dot com

 

[shadow123]

Just checked the charges I paid,withdrew Litecoin to the value of $505, sent to Kracken Pro, ended up with £384 in the bank sent via bank transfer.Fees were no more than £10, the lowest I have ever paid.
Havnt gone the other way yet, deposit via kraken to casino so not
sure what the charge would be

 

[justdoit]

I was just checking Skrill what wallet they use, I find out they using bitpanda looks they charge 1.5%

 

[justdoit]

I think I find one of best wallet, 0% fee to deposit 0.25% up to 1.5% for transfer

 

[shadow123]

Had fun trying deposit crypto today,had to phone Lloyds to get
an impending block removed from the bank account, message first appeared when I tried to do a bank transfer to Moonpay.
Did transfer twice after talking to the bank, both declined by Moonpay.
no idea why.Tried to do a transfer Kracken, bank said the details supplied
by kracken could not be checked and they wouldnt make the transfer.
Found some different Kracken bank details under manual pay instructions
These were accepted by the bank and the transfer finally made.
Good news that total charges were next to nothing.
when the deposit hit the casino.

So the process was bank transfer to Kracken ,exchange in Kracken,
send to casino in Kraken, simples


... and lose , was only a test deposit

 

[justdoit]

Had fun trying deposit crypto today,had to phone Lloyds to get
an impending block removed from the bank account, message first appeared when I tried to do a bank transfer to Moonpay.
Did transfer twice after talking to the bank, both declined by Moonpay.
no idea why.Tried to do a transfer Kracken, bank said the details supplied
by kracken could not be checked and they wouldnt make the transfer.
Found some different Kracken bank details under manual pay instructions
These were accepted by the bank and the transfer finally made.
Good news that total charges were next to nothing.
when the deposit hit the casino.

So the process was bank transfer to Kracken ,exchange in Kracken,
send to casino in Kraken, simples


... and lose , was only a test deposit

best bank for crypto Revolut or Monza it takes 5 mins to open account online

 

[justdoit]

here is bitpanda wallet how much they charger for £450
add money from bank to Bitpanda wallet under 5mins
sending money from bitpanda to casino under 10mins
so no fee when you make bank transfer
no fee when you buy USDT
when you send to Casino fee about £4 for £450

 

[pinnit2014]

Thing is as well with the fees - if you're depositing 20 at a time, a lot of times during the day, maybe the fees would stack up

Other side to it is: how much are you losing playing poor RTP % slots if in the UK/MGA (assuming their 96's offshore are 96%)

 

[spurs1882]

Something to be aware of. If anyone is using an exchange to convert crypto winnings back to GBP, there is a point where HMRC will be alerted and chase you for capital gains tax. It seems it's around £5k in withdrawals:

 

[justdoit]

Something to be aware of. If anyone is using an exchange to convert crypto winnings back to GBP, there is a point where HMRC will be alerted and chase you for capital gains tax. It seems it's around £5k in withdrawals:

only if you do trading, gambling is 0 taxed in UK

 

[spurs1882]

Whether you are actually liable for capital gains tax is a different matter. Your details may be passed to HMRC though.

 

[slot_zombie]

This isn't a pot shot at anyone in particular but why all the droning on about fees? it's a few pence to transact with Litecoin and negligible to buy and sell on a decent exchange.

Statistically one should be in "profit" after just 200 $1 spins at 96.5% vs 200 spins at lowered UK 94.5% RTP (-$4)

 

[shady]

This isn't a pot shot at anyone in particular but why all the droning on about fees? it's a few pence to transact with Litecoin and negligible to buy and sell on a decent exchange.

Statistically one should be in "profit" after just 200 $1 spins at 96.5% vs 200 spins at lowered UK 94.5% RTP (-$4)

I've tried K8 and they don't seem to have LTC listed and only a selection of around 5 coins.

 

[Ant1975]

I've tried K8 and they don't seem to have LTC listed and only a selection of around 5 coins.

I'm looking at k8 now and they definitely do have LTC. I've also deposited with it recently.

 

[shady]

I'm looking at k8 now and they definitely do have LTC. I've also deposited with it recently.

It definitely does, my mistake. I don't know where that confusion came from at all, getting used to crypto casinos still and thought I remembered it didn't have it but checked again and it does.

I thought the confusion was maybe skrill not offering the coins to transfer but it also supports LTC.

 

[justdoit]

K8 is abet worry to play they have so many wrong names on games, not sure way

 

[shady]

K8 is abet worry to play they have so many wrong names on games, not sure way

Strange. I'm looking at trying another place next time. I didn't look heavily but couldn't see an RTP info in K8.

 

[justdoit]

Strange. I'm looking at trying another place next time. I didn't look heavily but couldn't see an RTP info in K8.

K8 & BC are the same casino

 

[Ant1975]

K8 is abet worry to play they have so many wrong names on games, not sure way

The casinos make their own thumbnails for the games. I've seen a few spelling mistakes on different casinos. It's nothing to worry about.

 

[satchnz]

K8 is abet worry to play they have so many wrong names on games, not sure way

Wild Flames pretty much sums up my experience on this game…

 

[Guntis]

K8 & BC are the same casino

Their websites are likely designed by the same company, and that's why they look similar. They both operate under different companies, BC.game is operated by BlockDance B.V., and K8 is by Westward Way Tech N.V. about which you can't find anything on the internet. K8 has a 365/JAZ licence from Curacao, but it's invalid. I would not play there - it lacks trust signals.

 

[Ant1975]

Their websites are likely designed by the same company, and that's why they look similar. They both operate under different companies, BC.game is operated by BlockDance B.V., and K8 is by Westward Way Tech N.V. about which you can't find anything on the internet. K8 has a 365/JAZ licence from Curacao, but it's invalid. I would not play there - it lacks trust signals.

That licence will show as invalid if checking from a blacklisted country, otherwise it shows a green tick and says "verified"

 

[justdoit]

Their websites are likely designed by the same company, and that's why they look similar. They both operate under different companies, BC.game is operated by BlockDance B.V., and K8 is by Westward Way Tech N.V. about which you can't find anything on the internet. K8 has a 365/JAZ licence from Curacao, but it's invalid. I would not play there - it lacks trust signals.

JAZ are sublicensee most of crypto casino use JAZ

 

[Guntis]

That licence will show as invalid if checking from a blacklisted country, otherwise it shows a green tick and says "verified"

You're correct. Just tried with VPN from Ireland and it shows green. The casino likely belongs to the

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, founded by Asian Gaming as mentioned on this

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linked from Wikipedia.

 

[Guntis]

JAZ are sublicensee most of crypto casino use JAZ

They all are "JAZ". They are basically 4 master license-holding companies through which all Curacao licenced casinos (as we call them) operate.

• 8048/JAZ
• 365/JAZ
• 1668/JAZ
• 5536/JAZ

There should be more details about each somewhere here on Casinomeister.

 

[Mr Wild]

Seem like the Crypto Casinos in curacao might be short lived or will need to find another place to operate from

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[Guntis]

I reckon they'll operate as operated always but under a direct licencing from the Curacao government. In simple words, the key reason for this reform is to get rid of 4 master licence holders.

Read between the lines:

“I have no issue at all with companies leaving Curaçao because at the current time Curaçao is not making much money from them,” he said. “It’s the master licensees that are making the most money; the government is hardly making any. If companies want to relocate that’s fine."

Source -

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[bamberfishcake]

The casinos make their own thumbnails for the games. I've seen a few spelling mistakes on different casinos. It's nothing to worry about.

Do casinos make their own thumbnails? I thought all media was provided by the studio/platform client areas. They may do some jiggery-pokery but that looks like a fake game to me, or fake thumbnail at least.

 

[justdoit]

Seem like the Crypto Casinos in curacao might be short lived or will need to find another place to operate from

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they will move to Russia ?

 

[bamberfishcake]

Seem like the Crypto Casinos in curacao might be short lived or will need to find another place to operate from

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That's an interesting article. I like the way they say 'in recent months' - years more like

I guess we will see how much it really affects the application process. But, at first glance, it just looks like they are cutting out the middleman. Or middle-four-men

p.s. The acronym made me smile - National Ordinance on Games of Chance (LOK)

 

[justdoit]

That's an interesting article. I like the way they say 'in recent months' - years more like

I guess we will see how much it really affects the application process. But, at first glance, it just looks like they are cutting out the middleman. Or middle-four-men

p.s. The acronym made me smile - National Ordinance on Games of Chance (LOK)

or they can run without license like no-gamstop casinos, as longest they pay the winners no one cares for their license

 

[bamberfishcake]

or they can run without license like no-gamstop casinos

That is one scourge on the market that should be stopped immediately. Preying on the addicted is despicable.

 

[justdoit]

That is one scourge on the market that should be stopped immediately. Preying on the addicted is despicable.

no one can stop addicted gamblers, they can just open 20-30 UK casino account £300 each deposit, still gambler every day, or gamble all in one day

 

[bamberfishcake]

no one can stop addicted gamblers, they can just open 20-30 UK casino account £300 each deposit, still gambler every day, or gamble all in one day

I see what you are saying but where there is a will there is a way. There is a global effort for vaccinations and censorship, so I don't see what is stopping a global effort to protect addicts who have signed to GAMSTOP.

 

[interlog]

Strange. I'm looking at trying another place next time. I didn't look heavily but couldn't see an RTP info in K8.

How could you even register there if the UK is one of countries you're not supposed to register from?

 

[bamberfishcake]

How could you even register there if the UK is one of countries you're not supposed to register from?

Perhaps they did what I do and flew to Finland to play from their second home

 

[interlog]

Perhaps they did what I do and flew to Finland to play from their second home

I could jump on a flight now to any country I wish, and still be back for dinner!

However, don't want to do that if it means that come cash out time, it is going to be a big fat no due to breach of their terms.

 

[satchnz]

I could jump on a flight now to any country I wish, and still be back for dinner!

However, don't want to do that if it means that come cash out time, it is going to be a big fat no due to breach of their terms.

Experience says it’s not a common occurrence. Intelligence says it may happen at any time.

 

[slot_zombie]

Seem like the Crypto Casinos in curacao might be short lived or will need to find another place to operate from

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Damn.

Always knew that the Curacao license was the weak spot in this whole lark.

Unfortunately the casinos cannot operate without one because they can only offer dogshit providers like Betsoft if unlicensed.

Possibly time to find another hobby then...

 

[justdoit]

I see what you are saying but where there is a will there is a way. There is a global effort for vaccinations and censorship, so I don't see what is stopping a global effort to protect addicts who have signed to GAMSTOP.

m8 gamstop is a joke 2-3 twist you can play even if you are in gamstop, maybe not on big casinos but small one easy