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Lol keeping out of this debate. But seriously because someone that is into all sorts of conspiracy theories posts a video for all his followers and believers that makes it true.

Maybe there is truth in it. Who knows but ot would take more than a few of these videos to get anywhere near proving it.

The Internet is full of stuff that could not possibly be true. Guess what no matter what you post online no matter what there will be people that will believe it.

Guarantee if you were to make a video showing it gets dark at night as someone turns the sun off at a switch there will be people that would watch and go see it's true I told you and there's the proof.
 
Lol keeping out of this debate. But seriously because someone that is into all sorts of conspiracy theories posts a video for all his followers and believers that makes it true.

Maybe there is truth in it. Who knows but ot would take more than a few of these videos to get anywhere near proving it.

The Internet is full of stuff that could not possibly be true. Guess what no matter what you post online no matter what there will be people that will believe it.

Guarantee if you were to make a video showing it gets dark at night as someone turns the sun off at a switch there will be people that would watch and go see it's true I told you and there's the proof.
There is endless evidence that Covid jabs are very harmful and so where the protocals pushed around Covid. America are taking steps to ban it while the Biden government where prepared to push it to children ongoing.
If you want to stay years behind the truth in order to cling to the possibility your opinions where correct 5 years ago then crack on mate.
 
Most things Covid related these days pass me by simply because my time of warning folk has long passed and the evidence and red flags where there.
But this lady worked very closely with the evidence of the time yet she said nothing about what she knew.

The good news for me is that I can not see this covis type of scam ever being taken seriously by us plebs ever again if they try it.
But that does not say that a very real Pandemic will be released in future.

 
If they release a really bad pathogen, whos going drop dead in massive numbers the most percentage wise, the vaxxed, who have degraded immune systems thanks to Pfizer and Moderna.

They cant do it, they are snookered IMO
This is what grok had to say about the Dutch protecting Gates et al


  • Date and Circumstances: On June 11, 2025, at approximately 5:00 AM, a special intervention team conducted a raid on van Kessel’s home in Leeuwarden, Netherlands. He was reportedly blindfolded, held at gunpoint along with his wife and children, and taken into custody. The operation involved significant police presence, with reports of 15 agents searching his home for hours





  • Reason for Arrest: The Dutch Public Prosecution Service (OM) stated that van Kessel was among eight individuals arrested as part of an investigation into a "criminal network" suspected of adhering to an "anti-institutional ideology" with potential intent to use violence. The police seized items including weapons, ammunition, narcotics, possible explosives, and hazardous substances. However, no specific charges against van Kessel have been publicly detailed, and the OM has cited the ongoing investigation as a reason for not disclosing further information.






  • Detention Conditions: Van Kessel is being held in the Extra Beveiligde Inrichting (EBI) in Vught, a maximum-security prison. Initially, he was under "full restrictions," meaning no contact with the outside world, including his legal team or family, for the first two weeks. As of June 26, 2025, these restrictions were lifted, allowing him some contact with other detainees and his wife. His pre-trial detention was extended by 90 days on June 26, 2025, due to the ongoing investigation, meaning he will remain in custody at least until mid-September 2025.








  • Context of Lawsuit: The arrest occurred shortly after van Kessel and his colleague Peter Stassen submitted key documents for a civil lawsuit set to begin on July 9, 2025, at the Leeuwarden District Court. The lawsuit, representing seven claimants alleging vaccine injuries, targets prominent figures and entities, including the Dutch State, Mark Rutte, Bill Gates, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, and others, accusing them of misleading the public about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines. Critics and supporters suggest the timing of the arrest, just before the trial, may be an attempt to discredit or silence van Kessel.






  • Public and Media Reaction: The arrest has sparked significant controversy, with alternative media outlets like De Andere Krant, NineForNews, and The People’s Voice covering it extensively, while mainstream European and American media have largely ignored it. Supporters, including former military officer Abe Dijkstra, have called it a sign of a "sham democracy" and compared it to authoritarian tactics. Social media posts on X reflect public outrage, with some labeling it as state repression akin to practices in dictatorial regimes.




  • Allegations of Motive: Skeptics, including legal professionals like Meike Terhorst, speculate that van Kessel’s arrest may be linked to his lawsuits, given the lack of concrete evidence presented by the OM. They argue it could be an effort to undermine his reputation and the credibility of his case, especially since he is one of the few lawyers globally challenging figures like Bill Gates in court. Van Kessel has also been labeled by the OM as potentially linked to "sovereign" ideologies, though he and his supporters deny this, stating his Christian beliefs and commitment to legal processes contradict such affiliations.




  • Prior Disciplinary Record: In 2022, van Kessel received a conditional suspension from the Dutch Bar Association for unprofessional conduct, including disrupting a GGD information session and confronting health workers, related to his association with the corona-skeptic group Artsen voor Waarheid. This history has been cited by critics to frame him as a controversial figure.


  • Current Status: As of the latest reports, van Kessel remains in detention without formal charges. His colleague Peter Stassen proceeded with the July 9 court hearing alone, delivering a strong case, and the court is expected to issue a decision within six weeks from that date. Supporters continue to demand his release, with campaigns like "Free Arno van Kessel" gaining traction.




    Note: Some sources, particularly from alternative media, contain unverified claims, such as allegations of "reeducation programs" or "death chambers" in the prison, which lack corroboration from credible outlets and should be treated with skepticism. Always cross-reference such claims with primary or mainstream sources when possible.






























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The so called "Free" West is becoming a very dangerous place to live.

With the danger coming from Fascist governments andView attachment 210299 millions of undocumented illegal migrants who seem to have a MUCH more likelihood of committing crimes of a sexual nature.
Countries around the world will be very happy to assist their criminals to feck off elsewhere.
But amongst them are folk who just want a better life surely?
 
This is what grok had to say about the Dutch protecting Gates et al


  • Date and Circumstances: On June 11, 2025, at approximately 5:00 AM, a special intervention team conducted a raid on van Kessel’s home in Leeuwarden, Netherlands. He was reportedly blindfolded, held at gunpoint along with his wife and children, and taken into custody. The operation involved significant police presence, with reports of 15 agents searching his home for hours





  • Reason for Arrest: The Dutch Public Prosecution Service (OM) stated that van Kessel was among eight individuals arrested as part of an investigation into a "criminal network" suspected of adhering to an "anti-institutional ideology" with potential intent to use violence. The police seized items including weapons, ammunition, narcotics, possible explosives, and hazardous substances. However, no specific charges against van Kessel have been publicly detailed, and the OM has cited the ongoing investigation as a reason for not disclosing further information.






  • Detention Conditions: Van Kessel is being held in the Extra Beveiligde Inrichting (EBI) in Vught, a maximum-security prison. Initially, he was under "full restrictions," meaning no contact with the outside world, including his legal team or family, for the first two weeks. As of June 26, 2025, these restrictions were lifted, allowing him some contact with other detainees and his wife. His pre-trial detention was extended by 90 days on June 26, 2025, due to the ongoing investigation, meaning he will remain in custody at least until mid-September 2025.








  • Context of Lawsuit: The arrest occurred shortly after van Kessel and his colleague Peter Stassen submitted key documents for a civil lawsuit set to begin on July 9, 2025, at the Leeuwarden District Court. The lawsuit, representing seven claimants alleging vaccine injuries, targets prominent figures and entities, including the Dutch State, Mark Rutte, Bill Gates, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, and others, accusing them of misleading the public about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines. Critics and supporters suggest the timing of the arrest, just before the trial, may be an attempt to discredit or silence van Kessel.






  • Public and Media Reaction: The arrest has sparked significant controversy, with alternative media outlets like De Andere Krant, NineForNews, and The People’s Voice covering it extensively, while mainstream European and American media have largely ignored it. Supporters, including former military officer Abe Dijkstra, have called it a sign of a "sham democracy" and compared it to authoritarian tactics. Social media posts on X reflect public outrage, with some labeling it as state repression akin to practices in dictatorial regimes.




  • Allegations of Motive: Skeptics, including legal professionals like Meike Terhorst, speculate that van Kessel’s arrest may be linked to his lawsuits, given the lack of concrete evidence presented by the OM. They argue it could be an effort to undermine his reputation and the credibility of his case, especially since he is one of the few lawyers globally challenging figures like Bill Gates in court. Van Kessel has also been labeled by the OM as potentially linked to "sovereign" ideologies, though he and his supporters deny this, stating his Christian beliefs and commitment to legal processes contradict such affiliations.




  • Prior Disciplinary Record: In 2022, van Kessel received a conditional suspension from the Dutch Bar Association for unprofessional conduct, including disrupting a GGD information session and confronting health workers, related to his association with the corona-skeptic group Artsen voor Waarheid. This history has been cited by critics to frame him as a controversial figure.


  • Current Status: As of the latest reports, van Kessel remains in detention without formal charges. His colleague Peter Stassen proceeded with the July 9 court hearing alone, delivering a strong case, and the court is expected to issue a decision within six weeks from that date. Supporters continue to demand his release, with campaigns like "Free Arno van Kessel" gaining traction.




    Note: Some sources, particularly from alternative media, contain unverified claims, such as allegations of "reeducation programs" or "death chambers" in the prison, which lack corroboration from credible outlets and should be treated with skepticism. Always cross-reference such claims with primary or mainstream sources when possible.






























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Still in prison without charge because he is suing and about to win over the covid and vax pushers.



"Lets pretend,lets pretend"

 

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