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Smart business decision by ClubWorld.
This way they make more $ off the patron.
They may find out later that they have done more harm than good to their business.![]()
I am also playing at club and luckyred. I can place bets 10 lines by 2 coins still.
Nothing has changed for me as of yet.
Just checked - no response from management and minimums have not been reduced.
I mostly play tournaments and have never had a cashout. The reason I know this is I still have the original request for fax back docs that I never fill out unless I have a withdrawal. No one needs to see my ID until I request a withdrawal.
So it's not just a me thing or a "software" issue. I haven't PM'd since it looks like someone already did that. When, and if, that person responds, I'll provide my account info privately.
This is starting to look like RTG casinos CAN, after all, make these setting changes to SPECIFIC player accounts, rather than having to make a global change.
Even if this turns out to have been done in error, it STILL shows what CAN be done by RTG. We now have the possibilty that it is not ONLY the limits, but the RTP settings, that can be defined on a per player basis.
Even if this is not so, RTG have repeatedly been "economical with the truth", and in the discussions on RTP settings we were told that these changes could only be applied "across the board" for all players in a casino, yet here we have SOME players with raised minimum bets, yet others with no changes. Surely any update would be triggered for EVERY player at next login, so this really should NOT be happening due to delayed updates.
It seems the affected players were never told, and CS are treating it as something that CANNOT be changed back by just saying "it's how the software is", implying "tough" to players who want the old settings back.
What you just posted has been at the root of my suspicions ever since I won over $40k in RJ's at Cherry Red. Since that time I have gone something like 116 deposits with nary a cashin, taking a bonus on 85% of those deposits and just cannot get anywhere. I'm not a big bettor. My bet range is normally 20c to $1, as it has always been. I've gone through over $20k in all those deposits. It's become almost too predictable, normally starting with immediate losses, few features and low payouts on those features when they do appear. Anyone who would have observed my results would have their head shaking, going WTF? Well, WTF that many times is just not acceptable anymore. And the casinos wonder why they don't get much from me anymore......
What you just posted has been at the root of my suspicions ever since I won over $40k in RJ's at Cherry Red. Since that time I have gone something like 116 deposits with nary a cashin, taking a bonus on 85% of those deposits and just cannot get anywhere. I'm not a big bettor. My bet range is normally 20c to $1, as it has always been. I've gone through over $20k in all those deposits. It's become almost too predictable, normally starting with immediate losses, few features and low payouts on those features when they do appear. Anyone who would have observed my results would have their head shaking, going WTF? Well, WTF that many times is just not acceptable anymore. And the casinos wonder why they don't get much from me anymore......
This is so true!!! Ever since I won that RJ of 17K at LuckyRed, I can't hit a anything at anyone of those casinos in the group. I took VWM advice and played at the one where I have never won anything at Manhattan slots. Well guess what, I still haven't won anything there. I am sure of it now that you have posted your similar story that we are on some kind of "black list". I also remember the person who won 5 RJs at Inetbet, if I am not mistaken they have posted they can hit anything either.
Is it the casinos fault or is it RTG? That is one question I can find the answer to. If anyone knows or has thoughts on this, please fill me in.
On a side note, I did PM Tom, the CWC rep, because my settings were changed to just like All4greeds. He did rectify the situation for me.All the best,
LH
This illustrates the problem when things look "dodgy".
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Rival recently got embroiled in a similar matter, and they foolishly did this to Kasino King, who is a "credible witness" on the forum, so when he says he got booted, and found his bet limits changed when he logged back in, as far as I am concerned, it happened.
Given that this is Thursday, I am baffled by the unwillingness of the operator to comment on this, even if this is to say "sorry, seems to be a software error". Looks like they are figuring out the best way to tell us an unpalatable truth.
I, too, experienced bet limit changes (lowered)... more than once... at Rival casinos. Usually, though not always, playing on a bonus. And always during a 'good' (for me) run on the particular slot. Very creepy experience.
Club World really need to address this... and pronto! We need to know who initiated the change. Did the casino do it themselves? Did they phone up RTG and have it changed for ONE player? Is it a software display glitch? Very strange situation.
I received a PM from Tom which I will post as this concerns other players and was not a software issue as support told me. Betting denominations have been restored.
I can see from the event log on your account that the algorithm we use has put you into a group that has slightly different table limits. From looking at this myself i can see that this group is not appropriate for you so i have manually adjusted this back for you.
I don't consider making the minimum bet $1/$1.25 a slight change as I'm mostly a low roller.
[bitch on]I don't appreciate:
Waiting 3 days for a response and only getting one once I send a PM
Being told to update Adobe
That software was the issue
That I can reduce lines played[/bitch off]
mine is still set at $1 an $1.25 min
not happening here will not play there at all
Cindy
This sucks
Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. Too late, yet another unpalatable truth about RTG settings has emerged. They CAN be made on a "per player" basis, rather than only "across the board" at an individual casino. It also seems this was done WITHOUT the players asking for it, and indeed other players who would like the setting changed back are finding it's a "no can do" situation because "it's the software".
This could end up being as controversial as the "student" issue. CW said the REASON they had the student clause was because they wanted to ensure that their players "gambled responsibly". HOW is FORCING a mimimum bet of $1 on a player who is uncomfortable staking at this level "responsible gambling"? Why can OTHER players STILL stake a mere 20c or 25c, and are NOT forced into staking $1 per spin.
Is this simply one of those "get rid of the micro-rollers" moves, with the change actually having been TARGETED at players who frequently stake this low, and those that rarely stake less than $1 in any case having been left alone.
A consequence of this change is that affected players can no longer completely "zero out" if they can't access the 1c coin size.
I talked with live chat today and this is what I got
Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Cobie'
Cobie: Hello!
Cobie: How are you?
Freda: Im OK. Thanks for asking
Cobie: Good to hear.
Cobie: The system we have is different for all players.
Cobie: The system arranges for players what they think will be best for them, there is nothing i can do to change this,
Freda: so because i bet higher it put it at what I usually start at? Ok that kinda makes more sense.
Freda: But I don't understand why I don't have any offers besides the 35%. I have put at least $700 and haven't gotten anywhere..
Freda: how do you close an account?
Cobie: I understand this, everything here is set by the system.
Cobie: The only thing i can do is to email the promotions team for you and se if there is anything they can do.
Freda: Ok could you do that? I really did enjoy playing here and would always deposit here first before anywhere else
Cobie: I will email them for you, no problem.
Freda: Ok thank you very much Cobie
Cobie: Your welcome..
I normally do play .75 up to $2.50 but don't like the fact I now HAVE to bet $1.25 just to play. He also told me there is nothing he can do about it but I see that someone said a rep readjusted their account so what gives? I really did enjoy playing there but won't be anymore I like to chose what I want to bet not bet what they want me to. So disappointing. Now...can someone tell me where is a good place to deposit that has a short cash out time? I know the accredited list is there but.... Thanks
Freda