Club World Bonus vs Standard Deposit

[str8wild]

It seems that whenever I make a small deposit (I have made 18 different deposits) at Club World I can't win on anything, but when they give me a free $10 or $15 chip with a max cashout of 10X, I win like crazy (I had one $10 chip up to $5000 and then I realized I couldn't have but $150 and that withdrawl was denied, but w/e). Is this standard practice for online casinos? It would make sense if it is, cause they got me like a sucker. A very strong Jedi Mind Trick, but I ain't mad

 

[Andy Walker]

It seems that whenever I make a small deposit (I have made 18 different deposits) at Club World I can't win on anything, but when they give me a free $10 or $15 chip with a max cashout of 10X, I win like crazy (I had one $10 chip up to $5000 and then I realized I couldn't have but $150 and that withdrawl was denied, but w/e). Is this standard practice for online casinos? It would make sense if it is, cause they got me like a sucker. A very strong Jedi Mind Trick, but I ain't mad

The first part is luck, the second part looks like you get a free chip and it has a maximum pay-out that has a wagering requirement? Free money and entertainment, what’s the problem?

 

[str8wild]

The first part is luck, the second part looks like you get a free chip and it has a maximum pay-out that has a wagering requirement? Free money and entertainment, what’s the problem?

I'm sure your canned answer has everybody noticing how witty you are, but If you're not gonna answer the question, why respond? BTW I never said there was a problem.

 

[chuchu59]

It seems that whenever I make a small deposit (I have made 18 different deposits) at Club World I can't win on anything, but when they give me a free $10 or $15 chip with a max cashout of 10X, I win like crazy (I had one $10 chip up to $5000 and then I realized I couldn't have but $150 and that withdrawl was denied, but w/e). Is this standard practice for online casinos? It would make sense if it is, cause they got me like a sucker. A very strong Jedi Mind Trick, but I ain't mad

Max cashouts is a standard practice for RTG casinos. I understand that the Club World group gives you $15 in free chips after you lose $200 -$400 in deposits so my guess is you lost $360 or so. The free chip winnings reduces your losses in this instance to about $200. You are pissed because you feel you used up all your luck on a free chip with a max cashout. Yeah, tough luck mate. Next time you get a free chip don't redeem it and continue to use your own money lest your winnings be capped lol.

 

[bpb]

It seems that whenever I make a small deposit (I have made 18 different deposits) at Club World I can't win on anything, but when they give me a free $10 or $15 chip with a max cashout of 10X, I win like crazy (I had one $10 chip up to $5000 and then I realized I couldn't have but $150 and that withdrawl was denied, but w/e). Is this standard practice for online casinos? It would make sense if it is, cause they got me like a sucker. A very strong Jedi Mind Trick, but I ain't mad

Are you suggesting that they let you win a bunch when you have a max cashout?

No ... there's 0% chance that they're clever enough to program their games that way.

 

[dionysus]

It seems that whenever I make a small deposit (I have made 18 different deposits) at Club World I can't win on anything, but when they give me a free $10 or $15 chip with a max cashout of 10X, I win like crazy (I had one $10 chip up to $5000 and then I realized I couldn't have but $150 and that withdrawl was denied, but w/e). Is this standard practice for online casinos? It would make sense if it is, cause they got me like a sucker. A very strong Jedi Mind Trick, but I ain't mad

No, casinos have better things to do than watch every player's account adjusting RTPs as though there were a switch.
And no, it does not make sense. Casinos are designed so that you ultimately lose in the end anyway, so there's just no need

 

[mrmark21]

I wont touch RTG ever again. Whenever I get the urge to maybe take a mosey over to an RTG casino I'll just think about the money I threw down the RTG money pit and quickly change my mind. Busted 50 deposits and had one casino confiscate the only withdrawal I ever had. Waste of time not to mention money.

I'd stay far away from RTG some members think their slots are high variance. I dont think the variance is the problem other softwares have high variance slots that actually payout, I think RTG is just tight. You can see some RTG winning screenies on the winners thread but there arent many compared to other softwares. IMO cut your losses and move on.

 

[Fiona5522]

It seems that whenever I make a small deposit (I have made 18 different deposits) at Club World I can't win on anything, but when they give me a free $10 or $15 chip with a max cashout of 10X, I win like crazy (I had one $10 chip up to $5000 and then I realized I couldn't have but $150 and that withdrawl was denied, but w/e). Is this standard practice for online casinos? It would make sense if it is, cause they got me like a sucker. A very strong Jedi Mind Trick, but I ain't mad

I sooooooooo get it.... I have often felt the same way, I always seem to get the free spins and big wins, and re-triggers when I get a free $10.00 or $20.00 free chip... And when I am playing with my money it just goes on and on sometimes quite painful without any free spins...

Almost Like they have a little button that changes the machine, as if it knows if its a free chip or real money.. hahahahaha Before everyone responds that I am ridiculous for suggesting it , I am not, it just feels like it sometimes...Don't beat yourself up I'm a sucker to.. I ain't mad either its entertaining and fun!!!

 

[Nifty29]

I wont touch RTG ever again. Whenever I get the urge to maybe take a mosey over to an RTG casino I'll just think about the money I threw down the RTG money pit and quickly change my mind. Busted 50 deposits and had one casino confiscate the only withdrawal I ever had. Waste of time not to mention money.

I'd stay far away from RTG some members think their slots are high variance. I dont think the variance is the problem other softwares have high variance slots that actually payout, I think RTG is just tight. You can see some RTG winning screenies on the winners thread but there arent many compared to other softwares. IMO cut your losses and move on.

"Tight" is an opinion....not a fact. Why? Every person's idea of "tight" is different for a start.

Just clarifying.

The fact is that most RTG slots are high or even very high variance. In essence, it means you WILL have long or even very long dry streaks and then hit a monster. In the end, the RTP turns out to be comparable to other software in the long run, but no necessarily in the short term, which is why some think they are "tight". I've had some of my biggest wins at RTG...in fact my biggest.

You are incorrect that their slots "don't payout" like other high variance slots at other casinos. Go try dead or alive or reel steal for a few weeks and see how you go.

 

[Fiona5522]

"Tight" is an opinion....not a fact. Why? Every person's idea of "tight" is different for a start.

Just clarifying.

The fact is that most RTG slots are high or even very high variance. In essence, it means you WILL have long or even very long dry streaks and then hit a monster. In the end, the RTP turns out to be comparable to other software in the long run, but no necessarily in the short term, which is why some think they are "tight". I've had some of my biggest wins at RTG...in fact my biggest.

You are incorrect that their slots "don't payout" like other high variance slots at other casinos. Go try dead or alive or reel steal for a few weeks and see how you go.

Totally Agreed...I like RTG they do have some whopper hits.. and they are fast moving, You win some you loose some... My 2 big wins were RTG also.

 

[str8wild]

Are you suggesting that they let you win a bunch when you have a max cashout?

No ... there's 0% chance that they're clever enough to program their games that way.

No, casinos have better things to do than watch every player's account adjusting RTPs as though there were a switch.
And no, it does not make sense. Casinos are designed so that you ultimately lose in the end anyway, so there's just no need

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I wont touch RTG ever again. Whenever I get the urge to maybe take a mosey over to an RTG casino I'll just think about the money I threw down the RTG money pit and quickly change my mind. Busted 50 deposits and had one casino confiscate the only withdrawal I ever had. Waste of time not to mention money.

I'd stay far away from RTG some members think their slots are high variance. I dont think the variance is the problem other softwares have high variance slots that actually payout, I think RTG is just tight. You can see some RTG winning screenies on the winners thread but there arent many compared to other softwares. IMO cut your losses and move on.

I sooooooooo get it.... I have often felt the same way, I always seem to get the free spins and big wins, and re-triggers when I get a free $10.00 or $20.00 free chip... And when I am playing with my money it just goes on and on sometimes quite painful without any free spins...

Almost Like they have a little button that changes the machine, as if it knows if its a free chip or real money.. hahahahaha Before everyone responds that I am ridiculous for suggesting it , I am not, it just feels like it sometimes...Don't beat yourself up I'm a sucker to.. I ain't mad either its entertaining and fun!!!

Thank you for actually responding to my question. It's like no message board is safe from the troll brigade. They're always trying to spin someone up. I bet there's some epic flame wars on here. I can just see someone coming on here after losing a bit of $$$$$$, and instead of sympathy, the trolled.

 

[dionysus]

Thank you for actually responding to my question. It's like no message board is safe from the troll brigade. They're always trying to spin someone up. I bet there's some epic flame wars on here. I can just see someone coming on here after losing a bit of $$$$$$, and instead of sympathy, the trolled.

To be fair, it's noone's job here to hand out hugs. When you post in the forum, as you're welcome to express your opinions,so are others free to respond to yours - not everyone is going to give you warm fuzzies. Speaking directly doesn't make the members trolls - it's makes them pragmatic.

 

[Fiona5522]

To be fair, it's noone's job here to hand out hugs. When you post in the forum, as you're welcome to express your opinions,so are others free to respond to yours - not everyone is going to give you warm fuzzies. Speaking directly doesn't make the members trolls - it's makes them pragmatic.

I do not think anyone is looking for warm fuzzies, or sympathy but IMO sometimes people tend to go on and go about someones mistake or bad decision. We are human, and once the original poster has admitted to doing something not so clever, like myself, lol, it doesn't need to be continually repeated over and over again in each and every post regarding lack of common sense or a simple search would have saved you... a simple agreed may be better.
I also think if I post something I need to own it, but once its been owned it should be mute.. A ((((hug ))) is nice though....

 

[dionysus]

I do not think anyone is looking for warm fuzzies, or sympathy but IMO sometimes people tend to go on and go about someones mistake or bad decision. We are human, and once the original poster has admitted to doing something not so clever, like myself, lol, it doesn't need to be continually repeated over and over again in each and every post regarding lack of common sense or a simple search would have saved you... a simple agreed may be better.
I also think if I post something I need to own it, but once its been owned it should be mute.. A ((((hug ))) is nice though....

Well, in this particular case, the OP ASKED for feedback > Is this standard practice for online casinos? And it was the OP who brought up sympathy. And yes, sometimes a point is driven home..hard. It isn't always for the benefit of the op, but for others reading the threads. Tough love might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I'd wager it sinks in a little quicker with some people looking in to go do their research and save the headache before the fact, than coming in and saying 'gosh, if only I knew' - saying 'agreed' to the op might be fine and dandy, but that doesn't tell every new player walking in what they should be doing - and yes, EVERYone should go research a casino before playing - you don't sign a lease, then go read it or buy a car without looking under the hood - it's just plain smart to find a bit about something youre about to drop money into

 

[robertslots]

free chips not the same as real money play

I see the same thing with free chips you can do very well with them, trigging bonus rounds left and right.

but depositing real money is not the same, people who believe that the software is really fare are fools.

what can be programmed into games today are amazing, just look at video games such as world of warcraft.

why wouldn't a casino not program there games to payout deferent to one person from other, control rtp payouts

pct% random jackpot, and change the pct% of there slot from 98% to 75% or lower at any given time.

they can do just about anything now days with software and they don't need someone standing there to hit switch

to do it. look at land base casinos they can track how you bet, what slots you play , the amount of time you play

each game session, your biggest win, etc and the list go's on. so if you think that online casinos are fair when was the

last youre seen someone from this site say they have just inspected the gaming software at club world casino or

some other casino and found its fair, your not going to and that a fact.

that my two cents on this post

 

[dionysus]

I see the same thing with free chips you can do very well with them, trigging bonus rounds left and right.

but depositing real money is not the same, people who believe that the software is really fare are fools.

what can be programmed into games today are amazing, just look at video games such as world of warcraft.

why wouldn't a casino not program there games to payout deferent to one person from other, control rtp payouts

pct% random jackpot, and change the pct% of there slot from 98% to 75% or lower at any given time.

they can do just about anything now days with software and they don't need someone standing there to hit switch

to do it. look at land base casinos they can track how you bet, what slots you play , the amount of time you play

each game session, your biggest win, etc and the list go's on. so if you think that online casinos are fair when was the

last youre seen someone from this site say they have just inspected the gaming software at club world casino or

some other casino and found its fair, your not going to and that a fact.

that my two cents on this post

I'm surprised you're in a casino forum - I mean, surely you don't gamble if you think casinos rig their software so readily.

 

[Nifty29]

I see the same thing with free chips you can do very well with them, trigging bonus rounds left and right.

but depositing real money is not the same, people who believe that the software is really fare are fools.

what can be programmed into games today are amazing, just look at video games such as world of warcraft.

why wouldn't a casino not program there games to payout deferent to one person from other, control rtp payouts

pct% random jackpot, and change the pct% of there slot from 98% to 75% or lower at any given time.

they can do just about anything now days with software and they don't need someone standing there to hit switch

to do it. look at land base casinos they can track how you bet, what slots you play , the amount of time you play

each game session, your biggest win, etc and the list go's on. so if you think that online casinos are fair when was the

last youre seen someone from this site say they have just inspected the gaming software at club world casino or

some other casino and found its fair, your not going to and that a fact.

that my two cents on this post

......and I would say that anyone who believes that casino software is NOT fair, and continues to play, is a fool.

 

[chuchu59]

......and I would say that anyone who believes that casino software is NOT fair, and continues to play, is a fool.

Or maybe a glutton for punishment.

 

[bigsmile]

Or. hmmmmm. maybe you could use the "non fairness" (for lack of better word) to your advantage. So you keep playing a game or software that you don't believe to be truly random or fair, but you are doing so with that knowledge and using it to your advantage to actually win.

 

[slotplayer]

Its not anyones mind playing tricks on them. Do something long enough and it becomes second nature. When it changes you'll notice it.

I used to play the mg's then when the guy won the $5 million I noticed a drastic change in the games, mermaid millions comes to mind, the play was just much worse. I noticed it right away.

I play Cleo II at the land casino and I can tell you that something changes after 2 am, its like they have an internal clock or the casino is doing something. Its virually impossible to get the 3 scatters and if you do it seems to be 5 free spins and the bonus round pays little. Its consistient though no matter what night it is.

I played the rtg's about 18 months ago for a few months, the games I played like paydirt have a low hit frequency, they'll miss on the majority of spins but one spin will pay very well, the problem is having a large enough bankroll to sustain the misses.

Once you do have a decent payline win, imo its foolish to keep playing that game, move on to another slot as they're not like the usa land casino slots I play where you'll get a bunch of decent payline wins in a row and they'll slowly take it, they seem to be all or nothing. Its as almost as if the RTG slots move RNG away from winning combinations just after a pay line win.

I do know this, when I contacted one of the RTG casino cs reps to close my account he tossed me a $75 chip and all but guaranteed I'd win off it, if I didn't he'd close my account which made me wonder a little. I did get it up to $300 but lost it back and then emailed to have the account closed.

like I said, a few times before, call it paranoia but I felt I was being targeted, so I just don't play online.