Bonuses are still dire!?

Jono777

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I've seen that comment about Casumo now many many times. It's not true you don't get any for being up.
The simple reason is that you have to remain active. If you stop making deposits promotions are changing. It can take a week or two but they will change.
Start playing again and you will get them back.

I would think it's the same for a lot of casinos. Maybe they rather give to those who remain active than those who just visit when they get a special offer.

In the most friendly way possible I will have to disagree with this Sara :(

I got these 80%'s regular and was depositing still 2-3 times a week which I see as reasonably active!

Most of my Casumo deposits (granted a while back now) were cash only.

I then got a few decent (well decent for a small fish like me) withdrawals, may just be a coincidence but these 80%'s did not take long to disappear.

My activity was still unchanged, in fact at one point I'd go as far to say Casumo saw the bulk of my weekly gaming budget/allowance for a long time yet still only pathetic offers such as 10p Spins on Book of Dead, Starburst, Spinions etc.

Truth is I couldn't say exactly what the qualifying criteria is but I'd say from personal experience its not activity based. Hands on knowledge over all these years would err me to lean more towards the profit / loss scenario.
 
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shapesy

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The notable exceptions are-

-Royal Panda's Friday Bamboo bonus is still good.
-Next's monthly 50% is still there (23x D+B)
-Betspin's Thursdays 40% double deal deposit bonus




Chris[/QUOTE]

depo 25 at Betspin last thursday for the double deal to receive an extra 10 bonus only to find out that the wagering was depo + bonus 1225 :eek2: plus the 100 free spins i received over the next 4 days were worth 5p each . Needless to say wont be taking that deal again. Own fault for not reading t+c but if something sounds too good to be true...................
 

Tirilej

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In the most friendly way possible I will have to disagree with this Sara :(

I got these 80%'s regular and was depositing still 2-3 times a week which I see as reasonably active!

Most of my Casumo deposits (granted a while back now) were cash only.

I then got a few decent (well decent for a small fish like me) withdrawals, may just be a coincidence but these 80%'s did not take long to disappear.

My activity was still unchanged, in fact at one point I'd go as far to say Casumo saw the bulk of my weekly gaming budget/allowance for a long time yet still only pathetic offers such as 10p Spins on Book of Dead, Starburst, Spinions etc.

Truth is I couldn't say exactly what the qualifying criteria is but I'd say from personal experience its not activity based. Hands on knowledge over all these years would err me to lean more towards the profit / loss scenario.

I have the opposite experience and are up several thousand there. I can see a clear pattern from week to week if I'm playing or not, so I guess we have to agree to disagree about Casumo.

January has always been empty on offers from everywhere, and that is not so strange. Our pockets are usually empty too that month so I clearly get why offers aren't the best now.
Honestly though a straight deposit in a fast paying casino is the best choice anyone can make.
 

chris87

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depo 25 at Betspin last thursday for the double deal to receive an extra 10 bonus only to find out that the wagering was depo + bonus 1225 :eek2: plus the 100 free spins i received over the next 4 days were worth 5p each . Needless to say wont be taking that deal again. Own fault for not reading t+c but if something sounds too good to be true...................

Yes, come to think of it the other week when I took the Thursday bonus I had a good winning streak and checking my remaining wagering found it was still nearly £4k, needless to say I lost it all before I cashed out. If it is indeed 35x D+B it's a worse deal than with Energy!

Chris
 

chris87

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Honestly though a straight deposit in a fast paying casino is the best choice anyone can make.

Probably true, though the bonuses do extend your play time, however it's also probably true that bonuses ultimately benefit the casinos rather than the players!

Chris
 

SlotGrinder

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Why is 25% bonus with 45x wagering seen as so bad ? It's no different as 100% match with 45x wagering is it ? I know 45x is quite high but casinoroom are a decent casino imo . Yes you can only play netent with a bonus but at least you know where you are re: excluded games

Say I deposit £100 and get £25 bonus . It's just the £25 bonus that is x45 so £1125 of wagering to complete

Anyway it's adding 2.2% to your rtp IF you complete wagering because 25/1125 = 0.022 . And if you lose more quickly then you technically got a higher benefit from the bonus because wagering zeroes once your balance is lost

If you are going to play anyway and probably wager that amount anyway then it's fine , right ? Only sucks for someone who hits big and then wants to withdraw but can't . Mind you , I work from the standpoint that it is inevitable I am going to gamble , probably for hours , so it may as well be with a bonus :p Cashing out just means I get to redeposit somewhere else
 

SlotGrinder

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In my view you have 4 types of casinos nowadays:

2. Bonus, bonus, bonus - high wagering, endless and restrictive T&C's, cap on winnings, e.g. Nektan = 4x bonus amount. Others are Caddell, Cassava, ProgressPlay, Tain etc.

These casinos are probably the least profitable ones as they concentrate on the bonus hunters. That is also the reason they keep dishing out skin after skin as that group of players keeps moving on after the bonuses have been taken. They need constantly "fresh blood" as their margins are highly diminished by the bonus offers. Hence, also why they have limits on winnings from bonuses & Free Spins, pending periods etc. --> it reduces the financial risk.

2. Regular Bonus offers - standard wagering 30-40x B - these will die out rather sooner than later or become less frequent or have lower percentages as it costs the casinos too much money at the end of the day.

3. Rather rare bonus offers - withdrawals possible if bonus funds are not touched, wagering with bonus funds only or with both. This type has become more common lately as more casinos adopt this strategy, e.g. Betat, Slotty etc. Give less frequent but more player friendly.

4. No wager bonuses but other innovative player rewards systems as VS, Rizk - these will be the way forward because they work on the psychological level where the player gets rewarded for an achievement --> dopamine rush ..... they are taking the players on a "journey" type loyalty trail that ensures that they come back...call it levels, camps, belts, tiers, trophies or whatever.

These casinos are the most profitable as the "rewards" are given ONLY if the players are wagering (= profit for the casino) and are frequently in the casino. At the same time it is the best choice for players who can't be bothered with WR, shitty T&C's, capped winnings ....list not complete.

You all know which one is my choice. :D

I used to take the full monthly reload bonuses at CL/Next ever since i registered with them, stopped even those, think the last one was in September. I rather play only half the time with my own money than having to read T&C's for an hour before starting to play. :eek:

You mention Nektan in no.1 BUT Nektan bonuses are seperate real money and bonus funds like no.3 . So you can deposit and play with real money first and if you win you can cashout and just forfeit the bonus amount . Bonus wagering only begins once you have lost all your real money . The 4x cap isn't great but at least your funds only get locked up when it's all bonus money anyway . Then you just try to meet wagering and if you get something out of it then it is a bonus because you already lost your real money deposit anyway . And yes they have lots of sites and welcome offers . I think it's a reasonable option once you have exhausted the welcome bonuses from the best sites out there
 

goatwack

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Why is 25% bonus with 45x wagering seen as so bad ? It's no different as 100% match with 45x wagering is it ? I know 45x is quite high but casinoroom are a decent casino imo . Yes you can only play netent with a bonus but at least you know where you are re: excluded games

Say I deposit £100 and get £25 bonus . It's just the £25 bonus that is x45 so £1125 of wagering to complete

Anyway it's adding 2.2% to your rtp IF you complete wagering because 25/1125 = 0.022 . And if you lose more quickly then you technically got a higher benefit from the bonus because wagering zeroes once your balance is lost

If you are going to play anyway and probably wager that amount anyway then it's fine , right ? Only sucks for someone who hits big and then wants to withdraw but can't . Mind you , I work from the standpoint that it is inevitable I am going to gamble , probably for hours , so it may as well be with a bonus :p Cashing out just means I get to redeposit somewhere else

As you say, bonuses have always been ideal for longer sessions as most intend to stick around on the slots for a while. I think my record probably stands at 16 hours straight though I could be wrong, it was all a bit of a haze :oops:

Yet when it comes to deposits, I'd have to make it worthwhile to accept a bonus, and 25% isn't that, especially if already depositing a small fortune in £100! :oops::oops:

The wagering may not be extortionate but it's still way too much of a commitment for an extra £25, even when lowrolling. Far better to have the extra 50-100% to play around with and start doing crazy bets like 40 or 60p :eek:

But I respect that everyone has their preferences so whatever works for people :thumbsup:
 

SlotGrinder

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Yeh I would take the 100% over the 25% every time of course but essentially it's the same because 100% will give you quadruple the WR compared to the 25%

If they offered a 1% bonus then you'd def want to take it because that would come with £45 wagering on a £100 deposit . Noone in the history of slots playing has ever deposited £100 and tried to cashout before wagering £45 :D

So that makes me think that low % bonuses aren't necessarily bad . It's just proportionate . Of course , a low % bonus might not be enough to entice you to deposit at casino X when you can probably get a bigger bonus at casino Y but that doesn't make the bonus at casino X "bad" . Maybe I'm talking nonsense haha
 

Harry_BKK

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You mention Nektan in no.1 BUT Nektan bonuses are seperate real money and bonus funds like no.3 . So you can deposit and play with real money first and if you win you can cashout and just forfeit the bonus amount . Bonus wagering only begins once you have lost all your real money . The 4x cap isn't great but at least your funds only get locked up when it's all bonus money anyway . Then you just try to meet wagering and if you get something out of it then it is a bonus because you already lost your real money deposit anyway . And yes they have lots of sites and welcome offers . I think it's a reasonable option once you have exhausted the welcome bonuses from the best sites out there

sorry if i got it wrong but i read the T&C's of some of their casinos and there is nowhere any mention that you can withdraw prior to meeting the wagering requirements or when you do it before touching the bonus funds.

it only says that wagering is done with bonus funds only.
 

SlotGrinder

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sorry if i got it wrong but i read the T&C's of some of their casinos and there is nowhere any mention that you can withdraw prior to meeting the wagering requirements or when you do it before touching the bonus funds.

it only says that wagering is done with bonus funds only.

Yeh 1st time I deposited at JackpotStrike I took the £20 get £80 free . I won straight away and got up to £700 . Checked my balance for WR and it showed Real Money £620 Bonus Funds £80 . So I checked with CS and they said yes you can withdraw the real money and the bonus funds will be forfeited . So I did that and received £620 . Have made 3 similar withdrawals since then

Wagering is done with bonus funds only - Bonus wagering doesn't begin until you have lost your real money and real money is played first so therefore they have to let you withdraw if you win on your real money , otherwise you would be forced to completely lose your real money before you can EVER withdraw :p Also they add the bonus automatically without you claiming anything
 

brianmon

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Yeh I would take the 100% over the 25% every time of course but essentially it's the same because 100% will give you quadruple the WR compared to the 25%

If they offered a 1% bonus then you'd def want to take it because that would come with £45 wagering on a £100 deposit . Noone in the history of slots playing has ever deposited £100 and tried to cashout before wagering £45 :D

So that makes me think that low % bonuses aren't necessarily bad . It's just proportionate . Of course , a low % bonus might not be enough to entice you to deposit at casino X when you can probably get a bigger bonus at casino Y but that doesn't make the bonus at casino X "bad" . Maybe I'm talking nonsense haha

I'd say the difference is, that if you'd normally play at, say, 60p spins on a £100 deposit, you're hardly likely to play at 90p on £125 starting balance.
But you might play at 90p with a 50% bonus, starting balance £150.
Or at £1.20 (or more) on a 100% bonus, starting balance £200

So on the 100%, the wagering might be 4x as much as a 25% . But you've got the bankroll to play at double your normal stake. meaning the wagering is effectively only 2x as much, and any big wins, you're lucky enough to get, will be twice as much.

That's the strategy I use. I play at a stake based on my starting balance. Not based on my deposit amount, just to get twice as many spins.

a 25% bonus at 45x WR on £100 is 9x starting balance. which would take 1875 spins at 60p to clear WR.
a 100% bonus at 45x WR on £100 is 22.5x starting balance. But by playing at double the stake, it will only take 3750 spins at £1.20 to clear WR. which is only 2x as many spins for 4x the bonus amount
 

chris87

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-32 Red who are still offering the dish of the day (disguised as the 31 days of Christmas over the holiday period) but the 100% hasn't been seen for weeks and I can only recall one 50% over the last month or so

Chris

Looks like I spoke too soon. The 32Red DOTD is 100% today! Welcome back!

Chris
 

Tirilej

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I also had a 100% so it maybe is just for those in Club Rouge.
Sadly I can't use it anyway :oops:
 

Gemma A

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Tell me about it i had loads of loss on trada casino list below of my loss and not able to wager any of them sick

06/01/2017 £37.90 HK30D
06/01/2017 £2.71 cdwarlords50
31/12/2016 £0.83 cdwarlords20
30/12/2016 £0.20 cdaloha10
30/12/2016 £0.93 cdwarlords20
30/12/2016 £0.05 cdaloha10
29/12/2016 £2.10 cdaloha20
26/12/2016 £1.05 cdbw10
25/12/2016 £9.19 10XMASDAY
23/12/2016 £5.80 cdjh20

20/12/2016 £2.35 cdbw20
18/12/2016 £0.15 5SOXMAS
13/12/2016 £2.06 cdwarlords20
12/12/2016 £10.68 HK30D
10/12/2016 £2.57 HK30D
10/12/2016 £5.77 WELCOME1S
09/12/2016 £2.83 ILOVEXMAS
09/12/2016 £0.00 5FLXMAS
05/12/2016 £4.85 HK30D
05/12/2016 £3.00 30XMAS
02/12/2016 £1.85 HK30D
01/12/2016 £5.50 10XMAS
29/11/2016 £25.00 25VIP
28/11/2016 £10.00 10bonus
28/11/2016 £0.56 20WARLORDS
28/11/2016 £10.00 10bonus
28/11/2016 £20.00 20bonus
28/11/2016 £7.05 SECRETS100
25/11/2016 £1.52 20WARLORDS
25/11/2016 £5.00 5bonus

none been able to wager
 

Borgie

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I also had a 100% so it maybe is just for those in Club Rouge.
Sadly I can't use it anyway :oops:

I had a 100% I am Club Rouge too - lost mine almost as soon as I had deposited ! lol almost wish I hadn't deposited
 

Jono777

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For those low rollers out there, a 100% up to £10 is available at Thrills today.

Sadly the way things are for now I can't even stretch that far lmao :p :oops:

To replace my usual Friday relaxing slotting session, I'm gonna have the biggest, greasiest fry up ever seen :D
 

Deeplay

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100% up to £100 for me at 32red today. But wont take it and cant as my depo limit is under the min deposit. Im not club R. and only played a handful of times in the past year.
 

chris87

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sure its not 10% at least thats what it is for me:mad::mad:

Yep, 100% up to £50. Looks as though some have up to £100 and some only have 10%

I'm not in Club Rouge, but tend to deposit there daily.

Chris
 

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