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Bonuses are still dire!?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Oriel, Jan 3, 2017.

    Jan 3, 2017
  1. Oriel

    Oriel Full Member

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    Uk
    Ok I know there have been similar threads but omg what on earth is up with these very poor bonus offers. It's taking the p**s now - I feel like I am being treated like an idiot. Here is the offer today from casino room:

    It’s time for the January Sales. Deposit with the code enclosed in this mail to get a 25% bonus up to £500! Not only that, when you deposit using this code you’ll be entered into a prize draw where you can win an extra £10! There are 20 prizes of £10 each to be won in total

    Beat the rush with our January Sale!

    Casino Room Team

    Offer is valid until 04/01/2017 23:59 UTC. The 25% bonus carries a 45x wagering requirement and you have 3 days to complete the wagering requirements. 20 winners will be selected at random and will receive the £10 bonus within 72 hours of the end of the promotional period and will be notified via Casino Room inbox. The £10 bonus carries a 1x wagering requirement and can be used on any bonus game of your choice and you have 3 days to complete the wagering requirements.

    The bonus can only be wagered on specific bonus games which are mainly selected net ent games. I play at this casino from time to time and they are ok but damn what a rubbish bonus and wagering. The Wow over being put in a prize draw for £10 takes the biscuit!

    Most other casinos are not offering much better to be honest! Just an easy way to lose your money!
     
  2. Jan 3, 2017
  3. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    I thought with the Christmas and New year out of the way I would have woken to a flood of emails, an array of offers, casinos wanting cash to get 2017 off to a flying start....

    Nope just the same one you got from Casino Room and that's it all day! - Not even any spam from Lucky 24/7 which is a shocker :eek:

    Was hoping for a few ND Free spins (above and beyond VS, places I was loyal to in 2016 etc) but nope, nothing, nader, nowt :(

    Got the right rattle here for a punt but got to hold off on deposits until work picks up / income improves :( :(

    Got a feeling this year will be worst than last (which I think you'll agree we all felt was pretty darn bad)

    Tight gits :p
     
  4. Jan 3, 2017
  5. mimi26

    mimi26 Meister Member

    Occupation:
    nurse
    Location:
    uk
    Well 32red certainly started their ball rolling early, actually during Xmas, the bonuses were dire and it looks like the 10%, 20 % are here to stay
     
  6. Jan 3, 2017
  7. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Meister Member CAG mm1

    Occupation:
    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    What i have seen today, some might not have UK license.

    Play Frank - 50% deposit bonus
    Betsson - Wager $10 on any slot, get 10FS on 7 Sins (worse than having 10FS on Starshite) :eek:
    Trada: Deposit $30, get 50FS on Atari Black Widow
    Casino Cruise - erm, erm.... daily deposit bonus for the first 17 days of 2017. must check your banking lobby how much it is
    Casino Luck / Next / WildSlots - 50% monthly reload
    Energy - 50% weekly reload (WR 30x D+B!!!)
    Vera&John - Mystery Gift in the shop for 300 coins
    32Red - 25% up to $50
    Mr. Green - spin 30 times on Red Riding Hood, get 10 Free Spins on Warlords ..... good lord, can't get much worse :rolleyes:
     
  8. Jan 3, 2017
  9. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Ah yes you jogged my memory there Harry!

    Got a 75% + 20FS from Casino Cruise, strange thing is I'm supposedly BB'ed there :confused::confused:

    Wouldn't trust em these days anyway, one too many negative / slow pay threads for my liking ;)
     
  10. Jan 3, 2017
  11. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Meister Member CAG mm1

    Occupation:
    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    Well, worse for me.... i am on their "toxic countries" list, so i can't even see the offer but they still send me emails. :eek: ....unsubscribed a gazillion times but as usual that never helps.
     
  12. Jan 3, 2017
  13. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    A 25% bonus with 45x wagering is staggeringly bad. Sometimes I wonder why casinos would persist with these types of offers, but then realize that somebody out there is taking them, most likely new players.

    I doubt I had more than 10-15 "100%" reloads throughout 2016, not helped by 32Red's dicking about with their legendary friday dishes.

    I expect 2017 to be a vintage year, where casinos will be falling over themselves to outdo each other in how to give players as little as is feasibly possible, so.....

    ....watch out for upcoming 5% reloads galore :eek2:
     
  14. Jan 3, 2017
  15. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Meister Member CAG mm1

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    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    LOL goatie :D

    Found one today that comes very close but only - quote Dunover - Cup-o-Cocoa license.

    Lucky 31 Casino: Wednesday & Friday - 10% deposit bonus up to $1,000 with WR 1x D+B! 1x is right, not a typo! :D
     
  16. Jan 3, 2017
  17. Oriel

    Oriel Full Member

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    Personal!
    Location:
    Uk
    And not only that you can only play selected games!!

    Honestly - this kind of offer puts me right off the casino altogether

    No offers anywhere worthy of a deposit!
     
  18. Jan 3, 2017
  19. mimi26

    mimi26 Meister Member

    Occupation:
    nurse
    Location:
    uk
    That got to be a piss take that!
     
  20. Jan 3, 2017
  21. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Meister Member CAG mm1

    Occupation:
    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    Yeah Mimi.... gotta love though the max $1,000 for the bonus. Who in his right mind would deposit $10K in one shot?? :eek: :rolleyes:
     
  22. Jan 3, 2017
  23. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    life
    Location:
    Northern hemisphere
    Looks like the casinos are doing what some of us are doing. Having a dry January:lolup: Terrible Christmas promos now dire January bonuses, these casinos really know how to keep their players:rolleyes:
     
  24. Jan 3, 2017
  25. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Sells powdered water in the Gobi CAG PABnononaccred mm4

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
    West Sussex
    This is the time where new casino's as well as casino's that are new to you hope to take advantage of your bonus seeking. I am determined to resist.
     
  26. Jan 3, 2017
  27. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    I don't think self control will be an issue Colin with these God awful bonuses. Well I am more pleased than ever that I chose now to take a break from depositing at all casinos. Really there is nothing out there to tempt me! And after that disaster free spins rounds on Guts I am glad no casinos are getting any money from me for at least a month anyway at any rate.
     
  28. Jan 4, 2017
  29. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Sells powdered water in the Gobi CAG PABnononaccred mm4

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
    West Sussex
    Maybe you have misunderstood the point I was making? New casino's to you become more attractive to join because of their "attractive" sign up bonuses.
    For me sign up bonuses are what keep the average and the damn right awful casino's not just alive but thriving. If your usual haunts are not offering much to those at a time of year when many are short of cash they may look to find a deal somewhere new
     
  30. Jan 4, 2017
  31. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

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    Food Catering
    Location:
    World
    I have received an email from Chance Hill 75% reload up to $100 not bad.

    The worst one was receiving 100 free spins from Royal Panda won $60 and silly me kept playing the $60 bonus and got up to $500.

    Then I realised I have to deposit to meet wagering so I deposited $50 which cost me extra 20 because account is in USD and won nothing on real money so I only wagered 184.

    Decided to deposit another $30 win nothing again in real money so I was back playing with bonus money again and wagering is not counted :mad:

    I am down to $50 bonus money and have no idea how to wager it lol

    When I play with bonus money I win on every game getting the features and all so I deposit and not even a small win. That's my luck :(

    Free spins should be free and no wagering like at Video Slots, Thrills and Rizk.
     
  32. Jan 4, 2017
  33. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    Location:
    Northern hemisphere
    Not only did I misunderstand you it went right over my head:oops: I am always quite nervous signing on to new casinos unless they get the CM or trusted CM members approval. I need to save money anyway;)
     
  34. Jan 4, 2017
  35. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    I think over all what we are seeing with the "main" bulk of casinos that are licensed in Europe is a slow but steady decline and end to the traditional deposit bonus. Its been in the offing for a few years now. Its what casinos will replace this with which will be interesting over the next few years. Already we are seeing inroads with cash backs. races, point systems. And this I am hoping will only continue to become more advanced and more inline with a players deposit / bet patterns. Those Casinos that dont embrace this and hang on to the more traditional "promos" will find themselves trailing. I know many here love playing on a bonus and so do if its 150 to 200% even with insane ratio just for the challenge. Other than that - I am all but bonus free these days. Apart from 1 time a month at Sky vegas. and the odd 100% that bellfruit throws out like 1 time every 3 months ;)

    I think we have to get used to the idea that we will see less and less offers in the way of straight depo bonuses ... and so need to be more choosy as to where we play and for whats on offer in the way of cash back, points and so on.

    2017 could be a really interesting year when it comes to player intensives!
     
  36. Jan 4, 2017
  37. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Meister Member CAG mm1

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    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    In my view you have 4 types of casinos nowadays:

    2. Bonus, bonus, bonus - high wagering, endless and restrictive T&C's, cap on winnings, e.g. Nektan = 4x bonus amount. Others are Caddell, Cassava, ProgressPlay, Tain etc.

    These casinos are probably the least profitable ones as they concentrate on the bonus hunters. That is also the reason they keep dishing out skin after skin as that group of players keeps moving on after the bonuses have been taken. They need constantly "fresh blood" as their margins are highly diminished by the bonus offers. Hence, also why they have limits on winnings from bonuses & Free Spins, pending periods etc. --> it reduces the financial risk.

    2. Regular Bonus offers - standard wagering 30-40x B - these will die out rather sooner than later or become less frequent or have lower percentages as it costs the casinos too much money at the end of the day.

    3. Rather rare bonus offers - withdrawals possible if bonus funds are not touched, wagering with bonus funds only or with both. This type has become more common lately as more casinos adopt this strategy, e.g. Betat, Slotty etc. Give less frequent but more player friendly.

    4. No wager bonuses but other innovative player rewards systems as VS, Rizk - these will be the way forward because they work on the psychological level where the player gets rewarded for an achievement --> dopamine rush ..... they are taking the players on a "journey" type loyalty trail that ensures that they come back...call it levels, camps, belts, tiers, trophies or whatever.

    These casinos are the most profitable as the "rewards" are given ONLY if the players are wagering (= profit for the casino) and are frequently in the casino. At the same time it is the best choice for players who can't be bothered with WR, shitty T&C's, capped winnings ....list not complete.

    You all know which one is my choice. :D

    I used to take the full monthly reload bonuses at CL/Next ever since i registered with them, stopped even those, think the last one was in September. I rather play only half the time with my own money than having to read T&C's for an hour before starting to play. :eek:
     
  38. Jan 4, 2017
  39. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    I know which one im in Number 4 ... and agree with your points above. Also certainly on the psychological level humans like "reward systems" ... these are used in many ways ... and much more so online anything from points for posting to getting internal rewards on your Fit Bit for doing your 25 steps :cool: and so casinos more so than any other business can really tap into that, because the gamblers mind is already totally open and wanting those "rewards" - VS for example are working this out as are others slowly .... the quick fix of the 100% bonus is now destroyed with pages of terms, ridiculous wagering and when you don't beat the win ratio it feels crap. Even worse you get to 98% and you bust out. Not good for anyone in the long run.

    Changes are already in the offing and we need to adapt to them. !
     

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