New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[SpinUk]

Tell me any other slots you could spend 1200 x stake and not get a bonus.

And the messed up thing is that this has become normal for the slot - no one is batting an eyelid.

What has stopped me - and should stop you playing this slot - is that if you don’t hit bonus after 200x loss - do you want to carry on and potentially lose a further 1000x or five times what you have lost already? We know have many posters that have experienced - enough for this to be “normal” and therefore expected.

Please tell me any other slot where that is normal behaviour. There isnt one.

If you dont feel like destroying your bankroll, where the odds of a not particularly remarkable win is about the same as a 4 reel wild desire, but without any sizeable regular wins in the middle to enjoy, then strongly suggest you put this garbage where it should be in the “do not play section”.

 

[Nate]

Tell me any other slots you could spend 1200 x stake and not get a bonus.

And the messed up thing is that this has become normal for the slot - no one is batting an eyelid.

What has stopped me - and should stop you playing this slot - is that if you don’t hit bonus after 200x loss - do you want to carry on and potentially lose a further 1000x or five times what you have lost already? We know have many posters that have experienced - enough for this to be “normal” and therefore expected.

Please tell me any other slot where that is normal behaviour. There isnt one.

If you dont feel like destroying your bankroll, where the odds of a not particularly remarkable win is about the same as a 4 reel wild desire, but without any sizeable regular wins in the middle to enjoy, then strongly suggest you put this garbage where it should be in the “do not play section”.

In all my time online I have never seen such a stat. Yeah maybe crappy bonuses and eventually a bust, but not a steady decline without any bonus or free spins in sight. It is simply unheard of - that is until Big Time Lotteries decided to change that and rip the online community off.

I doubt these guys have sufficient experience within this field. If they did, they would have designed a slot with balance... In their own words - the slot is the most mathematically complex - Yep - Complex to the extent that its almost impossible to win big on UNLESS you want to lose your house, car and family trying.

This is what happens when a small time company wants to make it big time - They have a gold mine at their disposal in that they designed an awesome slot - Really superb. The math however is a different ball game and would seem that it is aimed at fattening their already growing pockets in a short space of time rather than retaining a client base.

Nate

 

[interlog]

So that 1000x win would cost you £150,000 That win pales into insignificance in comparison to what it cost to get it, it doesn't take a genius to work out that the slot is waste of space.

Well it wouldn't have cost 150,000 unless they were all zero paying spins

 

[shadow123]

Going to start a petition for bonanza2 which would have feature buy.Just imagine

 

[interlog]

So after a lot of spins through that bit of software the RTP is not that far off what is promised.

But unlike slots such as Dead or Alive there haven't been that many wow moments in terms of times bet wins.

I am down overall on this slot. Biggest win 2000x. But in fairness to it, it gives me a lot of playtime, more than when I play other slots such as BOD, Jungle Spirit and IR.

If I want play time and am not bothered about withdrawing or am wagering, I go to Bonanza but for a better chance of withdrawing you are better off trying other high variance slots but expect the session to be much shorter.

 

[pinnit2014]

Would probably work against them as half the reason people say ‘ one last twenty’ is cos they’ve not had it. So you’d find people buy it and go ‘that’s shite’ and go play DoA

 

[torors]

Going to start a petition for bonanza2 which would have feature buy.Just imagine

If you look at the JS source for the current version of the client, there's already support for FeatureDrop (TM) added. IIRC this appeared just after White Rabbit was released. Keep in mind that this might also just be generic protocol code that got imported to all their games and not a sign of FeatureDrop(TM) appearing in Bonanza.

Edit: And yes, trying to send a TRIGGER_FEATURE request does in fact return an error:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><GDMRESPONSE><SUCCESS>true</SUCCESS><PAYLOAD><![CDATA[&MSGID=ERROR&EID=ERROR_PROTOCOL&AB=100000&SID=Free:w1r8vfeifhg9jo80tja2aoln47k&]]></PAYLOAD></GDMRESPONSE>

 

[interlog]

If you look at the JS source for the current version of the client, there's already support for FeatureDrop (TM) added. IIRC this appeared just after White Rabbit was released. Keep in mind that this might also just be generic protocol code that got imported to all their games and not a sign of FeatureDrop(TM) appearing in Bonanza.

How can you set the price for a feature drop though on Bonanza?

With White Rabbit you can calculate the max potenial as the number of spins is limited.

But with Bonanza it is not limited (allegedly) so the max can never be calculated to an exact number.

 

[illu88]

Going to start a petition for bonanza2 which would have feature buy.Just imagine

They should call it BONUSanza please not Bonanza II

 

[shadow123]

probably put the code in ready, then waited to see how it panned out on white rabbit.Think feature buy would highlight how crap the returns really are.

 

[goatwack]

Sweet Jesus, don't be giving Big Time Gaining any ideas will ya for a sequel

A 'buy the feature' option would be a disaster and cause even more tilting and simply line the company's pockets even quicker.

Just imagine the horror-

"Bonanza 2: Boned to the core"

 

[illu88]

Hard2daCore

 

[shadow123]

Just think of all the time you would save between features.To be sensible,all I play bonanza for is the feature so why waste time.
Think I will message BGT.

 

[Jono777]

Think you'll probably get a similar response to what we have in this thread

Maybe mention you own an online casino and are interested in a contract, that should grab their attention

 

[greylady]

Well it wouldn't have cost 150,000 unless they were all zero paying spins

Sorry I meant, you would have to wager that amount - on 20p spins, that would take some playing.

 

[Jono777]

Tried to take a photo to make this easier but phone playing up.

Anyone who needs more proof regarding the ethics of this slot, take a look at page 34 of this weeks "TV Choice" magazine (UK only, sorry )

Bottom left hand corner

Alternative, TV Listings / descriptions CBS Action 4pm (Sky 148)(Virgin 192)

 

[Nate]

Tried to take a photo to make this easier but phone playing up.

Anyone who needs more proof regarding the ethics of this slot, take a look at page 34 of this weeks "TV Choice" magazine (UK only, sorry )

Bottom left hand corner

Alternative, TV Listings / descriptions CBS Action 4pm (Sky 148)(Virgin 192)

Best make a plan to get a pic up here - I'm curious now??

Nate

 

[goatwack]

They're starting a Bonanza soap?!?

Yes!!!

 

[Nate]

They're starting a Bonanza soap?!?

Yes!!!

Bonanza - The Series

Season 1

Episode 1 - GOL
Episode 2 - D
Episode 3 - T-Shirts
Episode 4 - Shared PC
Episode 5 - Screenies

Other episodes are still in production - will update you guys once I get it

Nate

 

[Harry_BKK]

I see the Bonanza thread is humming these days. And that only because we do not have those BIG wins as we have hoped for!

Sorry if I am sounding like a broken record but there is little I can post negatively about this slot. The other day I went from $770 to $30 in one session and from $100 to $940 in the next session. Plain and simple slot play, no matter if I have a bonus in 100, 1,000 or 10,000 spins.

We all hail DoA at the moment as the much better paying slot. Now think back how many shitty bonus rounds paying less than 10x bet you have on DoA to get a single good one. I had 1 WL and 1x 5 scatter last year and those go back to January 2017. On my last session it took over 900 spins to get the first Free Spins and it ended with 1 Wild and 7x bet.

Overall, Bonanza is a lot more entertaining with the cascades and the changing amount of pay lines. Plus big base game hits are far more frequent than on DoA, I can't remember when I had the last time 5OAK sheriff stars on it.

BTW, got one question:

Did anyone see the max 117,649 lines in the Free Spins? Is it even possible to have them during the bonus round?

 

[Jono777]

I hear already episode 2 has been scrapped due to production issues ???

 

[goatwack]

No spoilers but I hear the season finale will be the BTG's CEO running away with the money to Mexico.

 

[Nate]

I see the Bonanza thread is humming these days. And that only because we do not have those BIG wins as we have hoped for!

Sorry if I am sounding like a broken record but there is little I can post negatively about this slot. The other day I went from $770 to $30 in one session and from $100 to $940 in the next session. Plain and simple slot play, no matter if I have a bonus in 100, 1,000 or 10,000 spins.

We all hail DoA at the moment as the much better paying slot. Now think back how many shitty bonus rounds paying less than 10x bet you have on DoA to get a single good one. I had 1 WL and 1x 5 scatter last year and those go back to January 2017. On my last session it took over 900 spins to get the first Free Spins and it ended with 1 Wild and 7x bet.

Overall, Bonanza is a lot more entertaining with the cascades and the changing amount of pay lines. Plus big base game hits are far more frequent than on DoA, I can't remember when I had the last time 5OAK sheriff stars on it.

BTW, got one question:

Did anyone see the max 117,649 lines in the Free Spins? Is it even possible to have them during the bonus round?

Happens mate - Since I stopped playing Gol-Nanza I have had 2 wild lines and the stars about 3 times including the double stars for 200x at least 3 times. I have gotten ahead more often on average than bonanza. I only seem to lose 100x then recover later on Gol-nanza. I know you love the slot - so do I - But I am not the only one who complains of the poor returns.

We ALL know DOA is capable - Its proved itself 1000x over. Bonanza on the other hand is questionable. I am not referring to the mini runs people often tell us about - Doubling balances and getting the odd 300x. Its about the overall game and the lack of hits given its enormous variance.

Nate

 

[Jono777]

Quite fitting I thought, worthy of the trouble I went to get this bloody pic lol

 

[Nate]

I hear already episode 2 has been scrapped due to production issues ???

From the inside info I have received, apparently its not to do with production issues but rather BTG Studios wanting to charge each viewer 100x their monthly cable tv fees per EPISODE

 

[illu88]

Where can i get these Episodes are they available somewhere or only on the Blackmarket ?!?

 

[illu88]

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Im still trying to figure out why a slot that gives the same results ..well actually worse than dragon born and danger.. takes thousands of spins more to just get a bonus that pays between 10x and 40x most times...which is virtually the same as the other two. Just because they claim unlimited multiplier?

 

[goatwack]

Grab a beer....it's on now

 

[shadow123]

hey just had an even better idea bonanza3- feature buy with GOL knocking the price down

 

[Jono777]

hey just had an even better idea bonanza3- feature buy with GOL knocking the price down

players fave, we'd all be buying it for pennies after 20 or so spins

 

[shadow123]

yup

 

[slotmaster]

Thought of a idea for the base game, every time their is a "cascade" a multiplier appears via a spinner or something appears. Like 2-10x the win.

 

[aceking123]

Im still trying to figure out why a slot that gives the same results ..well actually worse than dragon born and danger.. takes thousands of spins more to just get a bonus that pays between 10x and 40x most times...which is virtually the same as the other two. Just because they claim unlimited multiplier?

Because unlike those others the base game is good , dragon born ,DHV can be over very quickly in base game , ive not found this with bonanza it keeps you playing for ages.

 

[ReggieMac]

How can you set the price for a feature drop though on Bonanza?

With White Rabbit you can calculate the max potenial as the number of spins is limited.

But with Bonanza it is not limited (allegedly) so the max can never be calculated to an exact number.

Very good point!

 

[slotmaster]

Thought of a idea for the base game, every time their is a "cascade" a multiplier appears via a spinner or something appears. Like 2-10x the win.

Alright screw you guy's than, I'm going hoooooooooooome................................ Oh wait I am home. BTG rep here you go a idea.

 

[dunover]

Alright screw you guy's than, I'm going hoooooooooooome................................ Oh wait I am home. BTG rep here you go a idea.

And that would reduce feature frequency from the existing 1-in-250,000 spins to 1-in-the number of atoms in the visible universe.
At least we know the 'D' is on Mars as we speak, then it would move to a quadrant of space as yet uncharted.

 

[ReggieMac]

Finally got a decent diamond hit in the bonus, my life is complete! 1400x+ WooHoo!

 

[torors]

For what it's worth, here's 10k spins on 300 shields for about the same amount of features that you get for 100k spins on this vile filth:

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Which session are you more likely to withdraw from?

 

[interlog]

For what it's worth, here's 10k spins on 300 shields for about the same amount of features that you get for 100k spins on this vile filth:

Old / Expired Link

Which session are you more likely to withdraw from?

Well I find 300 shields to be shocking in the base game. You will definitely need the bankroll and the bonus game can screw you over even better than Bonanza!

 

[torors]

Well I find 300 shields to be shocking in the base game. You will definitely need the bankroll and the bonus game can screw you over even better than Bonanza!

True. The basegame is horrible. The features are however plentiful with lots of potential. I'd rather take >1000X more often and live with the features that don't deliver, than have them return 100X on average.

 

[lockinlove]

My top 5 doa win vs bonanza

Total doa stats that I could actually track down and many of the screenshots posted here

235,000 spins

6500x
4200x
3800x
2500x
1300x

bonanza

600,000 spins

790x
716x
518x
468x
433x

bonanza is a joke

 

[interlog]

True. The basegame is horrible. The features are however plentiful with lots of potential. I'd rather take >1000X more often and live with the features that don't deliver, than have them return 100X on average.

Maybe I have been terribly unlucky on 300 shields then, but I don't find it to be bonus happy. Give me Bonanza anytime if it is playtime that I want.

 

[torors]

Maybe I have been terribly unlucky on 300 shields then, but I don't find it to be bonus happy. Give me Bonanza anytime if it is playtime that I want.

I think so, this is from 50k spins:

~/tmp/300shields
❯ node db_spinsToTrigger.js 300shields-31172 300shields-54271
average: 134, median: 95, min: 1, max: 664

 

[mcgameboy]

Bonanza, for all it's faults, gives the player a chance to win via both the base game and the feature. 300 Shields, clearly, does not. Same with other NextGen titles like Gorilla Go Wild. It's feature or bust. And even if the features do come, they are just as capable of stinking the joint up as a Bonanza feature is.

IMO, 300 Shields gives you a better chance of hitting that 1000-3000x home run, but it comes with a catch - you've got to endure a LOT of base game play where you have ZERO hope of winning anything above even 20x bet. And 300 Shields can be very tight when it comes to triggering features. If anything, 300 Shields has the potential to be a lot more "joyless" than Bonanza. And don't forget, it has it's own "trolling ace in the hole". You can get to Stage 4 and the 300x multiplier, but if no wilds show up, you ain't getting paid. And I can tell you this for nothing. When that happens, that can take the wind out of your sails a LOT MORE than a duffer of a Bonanza feature can.

Generally, I find slots that have solid base game potential to be better (eg Finer Reels, IR, TDK, JP, even GOT and Avalon 2). I think DHV is popular for that same reason - potential within the base game as well as the feature.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Why are you being a complete nob?

Think about it. Dunover posts his video's for OUR entertainment. Do you want to whtch him lose money for an hour+?

His video's are edited and he even mentions he has lost XYZ earlier.

Ok first of all no need for the abuse.

2nd of all I actually like Dazzas videos on YouTube. They have way more realism than the majority of the other ‘streamers’ or ‘compilations’ and that made me ask the question in the first place.

Thirdly, yes I’m sure he ONLY posts videos for OUR entertainment! Give me a break.

But getting back to my original point that I first posted about and after all it’s a thread about bonanza with people sharing their stories on the slot. I simply stated that Dazza appears to run very well on the slot based upon said videos I and I’m sure we have all watched. If there are other numerous losing sessions that we don’t see then fair play and ur right they wouldn’t make an appealing video to watch.

With others in this monster thread sharing stories of woe and heartache based upon thousands of spins without a bonus and claiming over numerous sessions they are hitting way under the advertised RTP it got me wondering how the man himself had faired over at casumo where most of his sessions are recorded? I believe you can request such information? Hence why I asked if he would kindly find out and post a screen shot?

Sorry if that makes me a nob.

Sorry for asking a question about the slot in a thread that has god knows how many pages!!

I was just curious.

 

[mcgameboy]

I know Mr. D appears to have done quite well on Bonanza and on BTG in general, but he has had his fair share of arse kickings too.

Don't forget that Mr. D does upload LOSING videos too and some of them were quite lengthy (up to an hour long).
Some of them have been so brutally short that it shocks you.
Whilst not as "entertaining" (in some respects) as a winning video, they still are worth watching, if only to highlight the downside of online gambling,
something which Mr. D has consistently taken fairly seriously long before he ever even thought of becoming an affiliate.

I consider the losing videos to be less entertainment, but more educational/enlightening/eye-opening/whatever word you care to use.
And this is why I like Mr. D's videos more than most, because it's not always about the big hits and big cashouts.
He tries to educate his audience, not just entertain them.

 

[BillyGoldblum]

And I hit crazy odds by hitting 22 spins again. Even worse result than last one and if it wasnt for the last spin, I would have won 40x.

I will never ever touch another BTG slot in my life. This slot is beyond a joke. It is absolute piece of garbage shit. Im on such tilt right now, I really dont even want to play slots ever again in my entire life.

Anyways, have fun playing it everyone. No more BTG threads or conversation from me. I have to leave it alone, its completely ruining my slotting. I hope some you hit that 5000x though but its good riddance from me. Pile of shit.

 

[lockinlove]

Funny to see all these 1000x reactoonz and other slots over and over again but a bonanza one is rare to be seen ever.

 

[nutnut]

had some free bonus off willhill. decided to play this shite.

hit bonus for 17 spins. get to x18 with 5 spins left. not one win. won £15! typical bullshit with this slot always always tease no end result.