New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[cncas2123]

22 spins of shite...

 

[bamberfishcake]

Yes, undoubtedly the bonus is predetermined. That’s the problem with having too much gimmickry on a slot, sooner or later you (as a provider), hit a point where you can try all you like but you will never be able to pass it off as random to the more astute, amongst the public.

It’s so obvious that these games are not random but still you have people, insisting that they are. Take that latest Millionaire game they brought out.

The basis of the game (and I may be a little off the mark because I am only going from memory but you’ll get the gist), is getting 5 connecting symbols creates a reaction and another 5 creates another, etc.

If these games (applies to all similar grid games), were truly random, with all the possible variables there would be hits available that would be akin to winning the jackpot in the Euro millions. Yet despite millions of people playing millions of spins through these games we have never seen anything that comes close to blowing you away.

It should be more than possible, with stacked symbols, retriggers, unlimited multipliers and so on but it isn’t. That tells you, it’s controlled.

The same with any pick me feature. Again what you will get is predetermined, not random luck. I have tried a system that proves these are not random and you can try it yourself.

The best example (that I can think of), is Heist at Peacock Manor (Thunderkick). On triggering the (basic 3 scatter) feature you then get 3 picks from the face down cards 10 or 12 cards, can’t remember). Obviously, you want the gold card. It’s not always available but I would say, it is 90% of the time.

My strategy is to always pick the same 3 positions/cards. Yet despite having over 100 bonuses, I have never hit the gold card. The purists would say that’s just bad luck (some sort of bad luck, that it’s never been in any of those 3 positions every time) but it isn’t. It’s the fact that the outcome of your selections is already known and it’s no more than gimmickry to make you believe the reason you got a crap bonus was because you picked the wrong cards.

Biggest example I can think of for a game not being completely random was a recent encounter with Elk Studios Micro Knights. I had free spins and had just triggered the 'charge' feature, in which knights push rows of symbols off the grid into a queue below. Symbols in the queue count towards cluster wins. - if you have three rabbits in the queue and two on the grid it counts as a win. Only the first symbol in the queue counts before it is removed for the next to shuffle along into play.

My queue was bulked with threes and fours of each. I forget which symbol I had at the start but it was a common one, maybe the 'well', and I had four of them, needing just one to drop into the space created from the 'charge'.I have never been so sure of a symbol dropping in before. I don't think I have seen a spin where a single well symbol has not appeared. Suspiciously absent to say the least.

As for Wild Heist at Peacock Manor, I don't mean to brag but have had plenty of 'gold' cards, but reckon my lifetime spins must be about 10,000

 

[Jono777]

Another way of checking is in a pick me round, say chose 2 out of your 3 picks, close the game and pick different choices, when they are revealed, despite being a different place you picked, the outcome will be the same.

Cannot think off the top of my head whilst knackered an example of a game right now but there are plenty out there that work this way.

 

[snorky510238]

Yes, I remember a game that disconnected on me once. Remembering where I had picked, as you say, I picked different positions as the originals were the lowest symbols and sure enough they reappeared in those positions.

From memory it was a game with a monkey standing by the side of the reels. As you say though, the game wouldn’t make a difference, they all work in the same way.

 

[cncas2123]

More shite, started with £4.20 in the base game win..

 

[snorky510238]

For every x500, there’s 100 sub x100’s nowadays. (A lot of them are sub x50 as well).

 

[cncas2123]

You literally wait thousands of spins for this shite...... I am definitely paying for the X 300 i got a few days ago.

 

[bamberfishcake]

You literally wait thousands of spins for this shite...... I am definitely paying for the X 300 i got a few days ago.

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Could be worse, most slots nowadays would give a big win animation for that.

I think 10x is deemed worthy of a big win animation on some slots now.

 

[curremon]

Dont play this shit anymore.. IT has that magical evolution shit sprinkled over IT and game runs 20% rtp

 

[johnnymcc1966]

I had my first bonus on it over the weekend and it paid a generous 100x.

 

[snorky510238]

I have it on good authority that Evolution’s game severs are located on the island of Tristan Da Cunha and powered by asthmatic gerbils.

I have started closing my accounts as online scamming has gone a step too far for my liking and this cheating bunch of corrupt people are top of the charts.

 

[kennygamerboy]

I have it on good authority that Evolution’s game severs are located on the island of Tristan Da Cunha and powered by asthmatic gerbils.

I have started closing my accounts as online scamming has gone a step too far for my liking and this cheating bunch of corrupt people are top of the charts.

fair play mate, that’s why i quit not because i can’t handle losses (they are par for the course) but because the sheer skullduggery and cheating was beyond a joke. even 10p slots deposits lasting under 2 mins at times on 10p then any higher you’re looking at 90 seconds as the clock shows how long your gambling absolute theft. and bonanza was the icing on the cake. since quitting i’ve took my family on a holiday and have upgraded all our garden furniture massive new smoker and bbq which will give me hours of fun ?so win win

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It’s all about the prags now. Much better value to be had.

 

[kennygamerboy]

It’s all about the prags now. Much better value to be had.

is that sarcasm?

 

[Jono777]

Whether it is or not, rarely get to play Prags but do think they do actually deliver rather than just have us write a Christmas list which ends up in the bin,

See a lot of screenshots & replay links more than most other providers and have had one or two VS rewards deliver over 500x hits on Prag too.

 

[paul7388]

Whether it is or not, rarely get to play Prags but do think they do actually deliver rather than just have us write a Christmas list which ends up in the bin,

See a lot of screenshots & replay links more than most other providers and have had one or two VS rewards deliver over 500x hits on Prag too.

Yeah but most are capped at like 5000x win or similair.

Whereas Bonanza has unlimited potential. be able to win enough to retire on a minimum bet stake. Once you hit the screen full of diamonds with a 50x or so multiplier lol.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

is that sarcasm?

It depends what RTP you play them at.And even at max RTP they are usually brutal.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Whether it is or not, rarely get to play Prags but do think they do actually deliver rather than just have us write a Christmas list which ends up in the bin,

See a lot of screenshots & replay links more than most other providers and have had one or two VS rewards deliver over 500x hits on Prag too.

Prag and streamer link? Think I heard something about this before

 

[Davey86]

@pinnit2014 your btg netent evolution voice needs to be heard we need screenshots and hope my friend ?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

is that sarcasm?

No.

 

[Scatter]

you only complain about this game, why do you keep playing?

You literally wait thousands of spins for this shite...... I am definitely paying for the X 300 i got a few days ago.

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[pinnit2014]

@pinnit2014 your btg netent evolution voice needs to be heard we need screenshots and hope my friend ?

i don't think that would even help

Since Evo took over they've been great for me: Beef and Bonanza

 

[cncas2123]

you only complain about this game, why do you keep playing?

I only complain 98.7% of the time, the other 1.3% I actually got a win

 

[pinnit2014]

I only complain 98.7% of the time, the other 1.3% I actually got a win

1.3% is, coincidentally, the current Bonanza RTP

 

[cncas2123]

1.3%...

 

[6HellsBells6]

Had about 100 spins on real balance today and drained my account pretty quickly, decided to have a demo try out. And hit a 32 spin trigger, bout 350x.

I'd imagine hitting that is pretty rare and although 350x would not be sniffed at, still pretty pants for 32 spins and topping of a 22x multiplier.

 

[dunover]

Had about 100 spins on real balance today and drained my account pretty quickly, decided to have a demo try out. And hit a 32 spin trigger, bout 350x.

I'd imagine hitting that is pretty rare and although 350x would not be sniffed at, still pretty pants for 32 spins and topping of a 22x multiplier.


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Apart from that appalling @pinnit2014 one?? all the other 8-scatter triggers I have seen have paid in the range 310-380x which makes me think it's made to do that. I had one in demo which paid 43x, half of the legendary @pinnit2014 87x which he had literally a week before. If you search this thread you'll see both his real-money shafting and my even worse demo one, coincidentally?? both finished on 13x multi and both had 24/32 dead spins.

EDIT - P.S. I think I got the wrong P here...

 

[pinnit2014]

Thanks for reminding me Dunover: my shrink had, successfully i thought, managed to compartmentalise some Bonanza crackers

Didn't post it here but Mrs had a 7 scatter that paid 22x if i recall - we had it linked up to the telly (on 2 quid as well) and half way in i was tempted to turn the TV off as there'd only been 2 wins

 

[snorky510238]

They are mighty rare, both 7 and particularly 8 scatter triggers.

I had over 4,000 real money bonuses and never achieved either iIrc. I certainly didn’t have an 8 scatter and if I had 7, it was only the one. I had 27 spins but 99% sure it was 6 scatter and one retrigger.

 

[dunover]

They are mighty rare, both 7 and particularly 8 scatter triggers.

I had over 4,000 real money bonuses and never achieved either iIrc. I certainly didn’t have an 8 scatter and if I had 7, it was only the one. I had 27 spins but 99% sure it was 6 scatter and one retrigger.

I've had a couple of 7's, one was 120x and the other about 370x IIRC. Rare as rocking horse shit. I still wear the 87x T-Shirt occasionally. :axeman2:

Which reminds me, it was even worse, 83x....

 

[snorky510238]

I wish you had still been playing it @dunover. Not that I would wish you to lose money but from the point where, someone who has played it as much as you wouldn’t fail to see how much the thieving, cheating (insert: German footballer with an unfortunate surname) have gimped it.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Ermmmm that was mine Dazza.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

If Jesus doesn’t manage a shot on target before this Arsenal game ends I may have to return to bonanza. Got about 30 of my skybet accounts all in on it ffs.

Turns into a useless twat all of a sudden.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Oh and Arteta takes him off???

FFS

 

[dunover]

Ermmmm that was mine Dazza.

Sorry, couldn't recall it - I knew the name began with 'p' I picked wrong from the two most frequent P's on the thread.

 

[dunover]

Thanks for reminding me Dunover: my shrink had, successfully i thought, managed to compartmentalise some Bonanza crackers

Didn't post it here but Mrs had a 7 scatter that paid 22x if i recall - we had it linked up to the telly (on 2 quid as well) and half way in i was tempted to turn the TV off as there'd only been 2 wins

I was told further down I had made an error and that in fact the 83x 8-scatter was @PMKFRUITPRO not yours? If so, apologies for confusion.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Can you make a ‘Gabriel Jesus is a useless c**t’ t shirt for me please Dazza?

 

[snorky510238]

Can you make a ‘Gabriel Jesus is a useless c**t’ t shirt for me please Dazza?

BTG are his agents. Nothing else can explain how he didn’t manage a shot on target, unless it was rigged.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Several firms offered him even money for just a shot on target. Sky had him at 3’s for two shots on target.

I went in on all of mine plus others I had other people set up for me.

Complete brains. They must of offered him a retainer ffs. On fire in pre-season then all of a sudden like a rabbit caught in the head lights.

 

[slotmaster]

Bonanza was hot this afternoon, more for others but the base games was hot and hit GOLD +5 and got over 100x on those on the Ontario Canada version.

Usually, 830 to 9ish someone hits on it every night.

 

[pinnit2014]

I was told further down I had made an error and that in fact the 83x 8-scatter was @PMKFRUITPRO not yours? If so, apologies for confusion.

Possibly, though probably had close to that - all the shitters tend to blur into one

 

[brianmon]

Haven't played Bonanza that much recently. So this was a nice welcome back, tonight at 32Red

602x - mostly from red gems

 

[slotmaster]

Won 329x from free spins this morning. About time I hit something decent on it.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

But I thought it was rigged!

People getting decent hits on a random game with a 4% house edge does not compute.

 

[TheAddict]

Won 329x from free spins this morning. About time I hit something decent on it.

But I thought it was rigged!

People getting decent hits on a random game with a 4% house edge does not compute.

While the rest of the regs here rounded the night off with a combined 10,000 x loss and 8 features between them

 

[aceking123]

But I thought it was rigged!

People getting decent hits on a random game with a 4% house edge does not compute.

It is !!!!!!

 

[snorky510238]

But I thought it was rigged!

People getting decent hits on a random game with a 4% house edge does not compute.

Last decent hit posted, was 8 days ago. Jeez, there used to be 8 per day.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes all from you Snorks!!

 

[gonzo fonso]

i had a session a couple of weeks ago i got absolutly battered,several deposits and nothing,been playing it in free play last few days and its landing bonuses left right and centre,what a shame hey coz i know in freeplay it plays out the same as it would in real play

 

[snorky510238]

Yes all from you Snorks!!

Yes, and it went from that to going days and thousands of spins without seeing one. To anyone who has played the game enough, it’s obvious there was a change.

I asked Videoslots for my rtp since April 2021, when I think the change happened. 94% so at least that proves I am not mad and seeing things or making it all up, as some people on here have claimed.

I think, that actually proves the opposite. I am actually very astute and switched on, to notice a dip in rtp, just by what I observed.