New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[Reelsoffun]

The reply @Reelsoffun gave implied that it will be weighed to come up more often.

What I deduce from that is all ways possible are available on each individual spin but some have a higher chance of appearing than others.

I didn't do the math so I can only say that there is more than one way.

You saying the chance of 117k ways is 22,500 which your clearly getting from 6*5*5*5*5*6

But your basing that on each reel selecting the amount of symbols equally and separately.

Lets take reel 1 as example each spin "could" choose at random 2-7 as the number of symbols, but it could as easily pick from 12 outcomes eg ( 2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7,7 ) so reel 1 dont have equal chance of each amount of symbols but still random. In this example its not the 1 in 6 you expect but 3 in 12 ( 1 in 4 ) eg making the chance of 117k megaways way less than 1 in 22,500

Another way it can be done is a random trigger spin that bypasses the size selection and forces a max megaways and can be set to anything they wanted..... eg 1 in 500 so even if each reel was equal size chance you could then make it more likely to get megaways as it would be 1 in 22,500 plus 1 in 500 Making it 1 in 489 average there is so many ways to do it this was just a couple of examples......

 

[snorky510238]

Yes if you don’t know any programming behind it then it’s impossible to speculate. I was as you say basing my calculation on there being no weighting.

 

[trancemonkey]

We aren’t talking “symbols” though we are talking “ways”. If you are handicapping certain outcomes from occurring then essentially that is not random.

If it is deemed as “random” in the slotting world then each game should come with a handbook explaining that for this purpose the use of the word “random” is a loosely used term that does not bear any resemblance to the definition found in a dictionary.

The outcome is randomly determined.

Random

adjective
proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern:the random selection of numbers.

^^^ This it what we mean by random

We don't mean this definition:

In Statistics; of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen.

Both of these definitions are in the dictionary (see

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) so yeah, we do follow a dictionary definition of random

 

[irish-ranger]

Wouldn’t get out of bed for that mate.
Me and bonanza only deal with 500x plus wins, we get special bald RTP.

Wanker lol

 

[Harry_BKK]

Typical Snorky, always with the damn Netents.
Heads up tho, if/when they start releasing different rtp versions of their slots, i will start shilling some other provider.
Novomatic and Thunderkick are among the options im looking at.

Been too lazy until now to go through all their game sheets to see what others they have changed, but I would assume there will be others. And no, DOA and DOA2 have not been given multiple RTPs, so far.

 

[snorky510238]

adjective
proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern:the random selection of numbers.

Exactly! This is exactly why it isn’t random because by increasing the chances of a certain thing happening via weighting you are influencing the outcome of a pattern. The definite aim is to influence and imbalance the outcomes that would occur without interference.

 

[trancemonkey]

Exactly! This is exactly why it isn’t random because by increasing the chances of a certain thing happening via weighting you are influencing the outcome of a pattern. The definite aim is to influence and imbalance the outcomes that would occur without interference.

You're wrong... but I'm not getting in to another argument with people that don't and won't understand how slot games not only work but HAVE to work.

Do you think there is the same amount of each symbol on a reel? You must do to put that argument forward, because as soon as we add different numbers of symbols, you are claiming isn't random. Which goes to show you don't understand "random" at all in this context.

I'll say it again so there is no ambiguity:

The result is randomly determined from all possible results, but not all results have an equal chance of occurring. Just because they are not equally weighted, does not mean the result can't be picked randomly.

If I have 20 size in a bag. 19 have lose and 1 has win. If you put your hand in the bag and pick one out, the outcome is still random because you could have picked any ball.

It really is that simple.

 

[snorky510238]

Random

adjective. proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers. Statistics. of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen. I was using this definition

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It’s controlled randomness Snorkmeister!!

I have to say I get annoyed when you have Nick from BTG sitting answering questions about say the DHV gates of hell bonus where he says that each spin is completely random giving the impression that each symbol has as much chance as landing as any other.

But of course it doesn’t because the random selection it probably IS making is from a gimped reel set designed to fuck you over. Unless you get incredibly lucky.

Same as lil devil, same as the rediculous top reels in the bonanza bonus relentlessly throwing gems and scatters along with the shit Megaways in 75% of spins from the bonus!!! Why?? Because that’s the more likely outcome from that still ‘random’ selection.

As for that Royal Mint bonus......

It’s like watching a clusterfuck game of Tetris doing its best to get in the way on EVERY spin. It’s just so noticeable it’s laughable.

Anyway, where have u been Trance? Taking a break?

 

[chris87]

Hi guys, after a break of 12 months I got back to on-line slots last weekend. After a week's play, mostly on Bonanza I can say without a shadow of a doubt that this slot has changed out of all recognition to what it was a year ago. When I was playing then you could have some good play time and I would have expected a couple of maybe minor, withdrawals within a week.
This time, nothing, dead spin after dead spin. Yes, I did get a few bonuses. mostly at the start of the week, but maximum 100x on a £1 bet and at different casinos No withdrawals.

£2k down and I'm out of here. Good luck guys, see you in 6 months at least!

Chris

 

[Kroffe]

Been too lazy until now to go through all their game sheets to see what others they have changed, but I would assume there will be others. And no, DOA and DOA2 have not been given multiple RTPs, so far.

Thats the important part.
I mean yeah, they have a couple other popular slots like Jumanji and Emoji planet, but i prefer Doa over those.

 

[Kroffe]

But like i said earlier, i have to find another provider to shill for now.
Gamomat, novomatic or thunderkick most likely.

But we already have a Canadian shilling the thunderkick slots, and a Jan shilling novomatic.
Wich only leaves me with gamomat, wich is fine, but i cant play them on the sites is use the most.
Its not easy being a shill these days.

 

[brianmon]

Hi guys, after a break of 12 months I got back to on-line slots last weekend. After a week's play, mostly on Bonanza I can say without a shadow of a doubt that this slot has changed out of all recognition to what it was a year ago. When I was playing then you could have some good play time and I would have expected a couple of maybe minor, withdrawals within a week.
This time, nothing, dead spin after dead spin. Yes, I did get a few bonuses. mostly at the start of the week, but maximum 100x on a £1 bet and at different casinos No withdrawals.

£2k down and I'm out of here. Good luck guys, see you in 6 months at least!

Chris

I Agree. You can now regularly get 15-20 completely dead spins, in a row, in the base game.
This was rare, even 6 months ago, and almost unheard of, when the game was first released.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

If you run 100 spins at a time and count how many spins are actually WINNING spins I think you’ll be surprised....

As a result of boredom, lockdown and for my own statistical nerdness I ran 2000 for the banter.

Highest amount was a massive 15 winning returns out of 100. The average about 8-11.

Obv when I mean winning spins I mean profitable ones, not those that return 40p from a £1 stake.

I’ve noticed when bonanza isn’t playing well at all the featureless spins will literally return 50% RTP almost on the button.

The base game isn’t quite what people think it is.........

Or at least use to be!!!!

 

[irish-ranger]

If you run 100 spins at a time and count how many spins are actually WINNING spins I think you’ll be surprised....

As a result of boredom, lockdown and for my own statistical nerdness I ran 2000 for the banter.

Highest amount was a massive 15 winning returns out of 100. The average about 8-11.

Obv when I mean winning spins I mean profitable ones, not those that return 40p from a £1 stake.

I’ve noticed when bonanza isn’t playing well at all the featureless spins will literally return 50% RTP almost on the button.

The base game isn’t quite what people think it is.........

Or at least use to be!!!!

I’ve played this fuck every day for the last 10 days one thing I have noticed is that 90% of bonuses occurred over a 30minute period 15 mins before the Hour and 15 minutes past the hour

There’s a folder full of these on my phone in the time frame

 

[snorky510238]

No wonder this thread is dead right now. Bonanza has definitely entered another balance draining period. BEWARE!

 

[irish-ranger]

No wonder this thread is dead right now. Bonanza has definitely entered another balance draining period. BEWARE!

Oh that’s for sure been that way for at least 2 weeks you’d think with the amount of people stuck at home it would be doing something unless some one is sitting spinning max bets and sucking the life out of it ..

 

[Jono777]

Oh that’s for sure been that way for at least 2 weeks you’d think with the amount of people stuck at home it would be doing something unless some one is sitting in the BTG Office, steadily dialing down the RTP, taking full advantage of our current situation

Slight adjustment

 

[myke35]

No wonder this thread is dead right now. Bonanza has definitely entered another balance draining period. BEWARE!

Not just me then. I thought the batches of sequential dead spins were unreal earlier.

 

[snorky510238]

That along with the lack of scatters tells you all you need to know. Starburst here I come!

 

[flyerskyangle]

I’ve played this fuck every day for the last 10 days one thing I have noticed is that 90% of bonuses occurred over a 30minute period 15 mins before the Hour and 15 minutes past the hour View attachment 127087View attachment 127088View attachment 127089
There’s a folder full of these on my phone in the time frame

I think their name(BigTime Gaming) already tell us.

 

[Reelsoffun]

As no one posted any here was my average effort this aft

 

[Jono777]

They're actually not bad at all for the stake in this day and age

 

[Kroffe]

Was just gonna say that.
All bonuses were above average.

 

[slotmaster]

GOLD! 4th spin in................

 

[Speedy38]

Last week I lost 1500 playing only low stakes max 2 euro bet! Nothing but trash this game at the moment...

 

[slotmaster]

weeeeeeeeee almost 500x! Bunch of 9,s than a bunch of aces were the 2 biggest hits.

 

[Speedy38]

weeeeeeeeee almost 500x! Bunch of 9,s than a bunch of aces were the 2 biggest hits.

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Run and dont look back

 

[slotmaster]

Run and dont look back

Aye, I took it down a bit as usual, but going to play something else and do a withdrawal as well.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Run and dont look back

I know what you mean but if we ran every time we have a good hit out of a game we wouldn't have any left to play

 

[goatwack]

To think, I was down to my last 60p on Book of Dead and about to uppercut the bin

Got to 32x multiplier too!

From a mere £5 deposit I've now swagged £200 and got about £50 left to spunk away

ps the beard's coming along nicely

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Over 700x??

U now working as the latest BTG office junior?

 

[goatwack]

Over 700x??

U now working as the latest BTG office junior?

It's a step up from my previous position as Chief Monkey Boy

You say 700x, it could have breached over a thousand had my last spin....not been dead

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Last spin no................

 

[Speedy38]

Last spin no................

Win

 

[slotmaster]

 

[irish-ranger]

Not to shabby

 

[pinnit2014]

Sky Vegas went a bit GOLD daft - 2 quid one was not bad, rest meh - the second 2 quid rolled in soon after the first and gave a barnstorming 5x as went in on 19 quid

 

[Luckyscouser45]

What is the point when your up against this trash every deposit this slot is poison and can’t tell me back in the day there were 9 dead spins in a bonus round

 

[irish-ranger]

What is the point when your up against this trash every deposit this slot is poison and can’t tell me back in the day there were 9 dead spins in a bonus round

Where as in the green fields of Ulster lol not to bad “better than a poke in the eye with a big stick”

 

[snorky510238]

What is the point when your up against this trash every deposit this slot is poison and can’t tell me back in the day there were 9 dead spins in a bonus round

Strange how every time Bonanza is absolutely shocking for you it’s the same for me. I have only given it a handful of spins lately because it’s so obvious when it’s dead.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Strange how every time Bonanza is absolutely shocking for you it’s the same for me. I have only given it a handful of spins lately because it’s so obvious when it’s dead.

Ive noticed that too best thing to do is leave it well
Alone when it’s like that and save your money

 

[snorky510238]

Ive noticed that too best thing to do is leave it well
Alone when it’s like that and save your money

Yes that’s what I have been doing. Just give it a handful of spins to make sure it’s still asleep and wait until it wakes up. We know slots aren’t random in the true sense so use it to your advantage.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Yes that’s what I have been doing. Just give it a handful of spins to make sure it’s still asleep and wait until it wakes up. We know slots aren’t random in the true sense so use it to your advantage.

Most definitely a quick 25 spins and then if it’s dead run for the hills. It’s crazy how other time’s you login click spin and can’t lose random my arse lol

 

[snorky510238]

Yep all slots are the same.

 

[irish-ranger]

The beast finally woke after 4 solid hrs decent base game hit followed by an ever better bonus

 

[Playford7]

On some run lately. Another £500 withdrawal.
Just got my last lot from hyper casino, no issue as usual with the L and L paying out.
Cheers Jan

 

[pinnit2014]

On some run lately. Another £500 withdrawal.
Just got my last lot from hyper casino, no issue as usual with the L and L paying out.
Cheers Jan

Last spin as well? That’s a rarity

Billy big balls on the two quids as well ;-)

 

[irish-ranger]

On some run lately. Another £500 withdrawal.
Just got my last lot from hyper casino, no issue as usual with the L and L paying out.
Cheers Jan

“Excuse me Ben”

 

[goatwack]

On some run lately. Another £500 withdrawal.
Just got my last lot from hyper casino, no issue as usual with the L and L paying out.
Cheers Jan

Bit sickening but well done nonetheless