New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[nutnut]

Went to get a drink and put that Ecuador on auto as Irish Ranger put in head, 40ps and up 160. That's more satisfying

Oh, anno, i had a x2 once and it nearly drove me to the Priesthood

I was playing ecuador at £2 a spin other day. things got nasty!

 

[pinnit2014]

Pre 1130pm, another 4 quid round. Prepared for glory, ready for defeat

 

[pinnit2014]

The latter it is.

 

[goatwack]

There are no adequate words to describe the bentness of these high-stakes bonus rounds

 

[nutnut]

pinnit from my expensive lesson please avoid the 4 pound spins. it will not end well.

I've closed all but 1 account(willhill) for 30 days. I refuse to fund this beast. I'm over 800 pound in deposits without a bonus. though by that screenshot ain't missing much.

I'll stick with 50 limit daily on willhill. but so sick of it dont even want to play that atm. it's not gave me anything decent for weekends when.compared to deposit to withdrawal ratio.

 

[pinnit2014]

pinnit from my expensive lesson please avoid the 4 pound spins. it will not end well.

I've closed all but 1 account(willhill) for 30 days. I refuse to fund this beast. I'm over 800 pound in deposits without a bonus. though by that screenshot ain't missing much.

I'll stick with 50 limit daily on willhill. but so sick of it dont even want to play that atm. it's not gave me anything decent for weekends when.compared to deposit to withdrawal ratio.

Anno man, I only high roll it on 4s when iv taken something out - usually leave 100 and go 25 and see if it comes in. Never go cold as one time that ended in misery.

You can almost sense it within the first few. There’s times when, even after a poor start, you have a smidge of hope - for that one there I just knew; even when two carts came in I’m like , no chance ;-)

Nice when you hit and have to submit a revised withdrawal but not that time, alas.

Bastard

 

[nutnut]

We should all put money into a fund and give it pinnit to bash at £10 a spin. He is on the hot streak atm for bonus hitting.

 

[pinnit2014]

We should all put money into a fund and give it pinnit to bash at £10 a spin. He is on the hot streak atm for bonus hitting.

Folk can have their money back if I don’t hit 42 spins, on 10 quid, with a few 4 cart re-triggers thrown in.

#helpmelivethedreamandgivebonanzaagoodrogering

 

[nutnut]

Well my 50 limit is working. Fired up will hill. And x400 BASE game hit. Shitload of diamonds. Was same layout when I hit x5000 when game first came out in bonus round.

Much needed withdrawal.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Well my 50 limit is working. Fired up will hill. And x400 BASE game hit. Shitload of diamonds. Was same layout when I hit x5000 when game first came out in bonus round.

Much needed withdrawal.

When I deposit 50 and do €2 spins I'm done in 25 spins Congrats

 

[sufferinsilence]

OK I lied and was close to finishing 50 spins when GOLD dropped in... It wasn't quite the 400x hit I was expecting after seeing @nutnut's screenie but tripling my deposit is good enough for me. Ofcourse I was 1 diamond off of 600x in the bonus but hey ho

 

[nutnut]

I hit 3 bonuses during that session. 2 back to back spins. X20 and x12 and just as what I left over was running out triggered it again. To my surprise it paid x3

Bonuses are utter garbage base game is my highest hits for long time time.

 

[snorky510238]

I hit 2 last night, x10 and x25. Need some of the luck @pinnit2014 has been having.

 

[pinnit2014]

I hit 3 bonuses during that session. 2 back to back spins. X20 and x12 and just as what I left over was running out triggered it again. To my surprise it paid x3

Bonuses are utter garbage base game is my highest hits for long time time.

That's brutal

 

[pinnit2014]

Aye....where was the 672x on the 4 quids last night. Git

Also, should Jan at L&L wish to fire me a 200% bonus for my promotion of the casino, please do - I have no scruples.

 

[steveh35]

@dunover where have all your bonanza videos gone from Youtube?

 

[dunover]

@dunover where have all your bonanza videos gone from Youtube?

It's explained in another thread, strikes and aff programme e-mails, one of which is a threadstarter elsewhere.

TBH I'm done with YT, it's more hassle than it's worth and from now on I'll only use it when necessary.

 

[goatwack]

Go with makeup tutorials and kitten videos Dunover, it's where YT is headed anyway

 

[nutnut]

Aye....where was the 672x on the 4 quids last night. Git

Also, should Jan at L&L wish to fire me a 200% bonus for my promotion of the casino, please do - I have no scruples.

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I'd rather not play than hit that win at those stakes nowadays. first thought is multiply it to £2 stake then get depressed

 

[dunover]

Go with makeup tutorials and kitten videos Dunover, it's where YT is headed anyway

Yep. I'll become an 'influencer' for cat foods when we get a new one. Actually you're on to something there, as my sis has just started a sales job with a new and niche pet food company. If it takes off, I'll remember you for this comment.

Back on track @nutnut has observed it seems how hard it is to hit a big boy on anything over £2, something I have found out myself. I think I did get one 500-ish x stake at SVegas once on 4 quid, but it's a rarity.

 

[nutnut]

enough of us play at 2 pound or above. yet all these bonuses with x500 are at anything under 2.

we need to start this new conspiracy theory!

 

[dunover]

enough of us play at 2 pound or above. yet all these bonuses with x500 are at anything under 2.

we need to start this new conspiracy theory!

My fake 3628x bet was on a fake £2 stake at Fakery Vegas if you remember, but aside from that all my fake 1000x hits were on the fake £1 stake so my biggest hit was at £2, but admittedly it's the only one and all the rest were at £1. So you'd have a good point if wasn't for that anomalous one.

EDIT - Actually that's tosh because if you remember I had that 2550x one at Casimba IIRC on £2 too, with the piles of Kings over 6 reels therefore I must disagree - my biggest 2 hits ever were at £2.

The only way we'd prove it is to pro-rata the 500x plus hits to the amount of spins at <£2 or £2 or more played. I think it may be as the majority of play is at lower than 2 quid bets.

 

[pinnit2014]

Getting above 150x on 2 quids is a mission in itself

 

[pinnit2014]

But a 10x on 4 quid is seemingly quite easy

First spin on that stake as well

 

[nutnut]

pinnit lapping up the midnight bonuses

 

[pinnit2014]

pinnit lapping up the midnight bonuses

I'm checking out at 500...it's had it's chance

 

[Sasukdcf]

I confess I haven’t read all the thread, as I don’t have 5 days spare ! But are we all in agreement then that generally speaking when you are playing higher stakes on this game £4 upwards you are priming yourself to get royally arse fisted......

How can that be tho when certain people on here swear blind stake is irrelevant to pro rata result of a feature.....

I am intrigued because anyone that truly believes that to be the case and that all stakes play the same and pay the same (which certain people on here swear blind is the case) I have devised a challenge)

It’s not the finished article yet but goes something like this.




I play £5 stakes
Opponent plays 40p stakes

Both play 250 spins

Points awarded as follows

25 points for feature
50 points for a feature paying 100x or more
5 points for a megaways board
10 for a megaways board that pays more than 25x
5 points for a win over more than 2 ways that hits reel 5 or beyond
10 points for every win over 10x

If I get more points than the challenger I will pay them £500
If they get more points than me they pay me £250

Therefore I am offering them 2/1 odds which if it was truly random and stake was irrelevant they couldn’t lose in the long term. As the odds should be 50/50.

Let’s see how many people think stakes are irrelevant now!!!

And assuming no one takes me up on this..... why is nothing being done about it.... I have shouted from the rooftops for years that higher stakes negatively impact on the average feature return and get shot down....

People say oh you don’t play higher stakes as much and it’s just luck....

BULLSHIT

Yes I’ve hit good wins but in comparison to those at lower stakes.... fuck all

And when I hear “ it’s too complicated to change the variance of a game and keep the rtp the same” it does make me smile

Oh ok so in a world where technological advancements are such that we are achieving space travel, keyhole surgery, cloning dna and making computers the size of a matchbox, yet we can’t write a simple algorithm to keep a % the same but alter the average feature return to minimise exposure ! Do me a fucking favour.

I truly believe that anyone that spouts that shit is either

Stupid
Lying
Naive
Or secretly works for BTG!

Or all of the above !!!

 

[CC07]

But on the flip side - it also pays crap at times on 20p bets too 1x!!!!

 

[snorky510238]

If you think about it logically the bonuses on higher stakes should come up more often than the average 450 (or whatever it is) spins but will be gimped to pay less.

The reason behind this imo is because we have seen posts where players have gone around 2,000 spins without a bonus.

Even waiting 1,000 spins for a player playing £20 a spin means you would have to recycle £20,000 before hitting a bonus. Not very realistic so I think on higher stakes your play will be condensed so to speak and certainly gimped in terms of cap on bonuses. Just my opinion.

 

[Sasukdcf]

But it shouldn’t be that way

It should be the same because that’s what they tell us!

I have banged on for 10 years that slots are skewed and for 10 years the casinos and the GC have come back saying


Blah blah blah tested blah blah RTP blah blah

But in fact don’t answer the question.

I don’t agree with your reasoning for the theory of feature being easier to hit at higher stakes as I have bitter experience to show that it’s not, however I do agree that on higher stakes it pulls the random results for a
Big pool of slimey shit where the chances of hitting a decent win are rare to say the least ...

And my theory as to why....
when I hit a 1000x feature at £1 stake for instance....( which I have done countless times ) I’ll take £700 and play off the rest and normally lose ( but that’s another can of worms !!)

And the 1000x win has helped maintain the overall RTP of the game and all is well and the casino has lost very little.

If I’m playing £5 spin and hit a 1000x feature ( which I have never done despite playing it on these stakes repeatedly )

I’ll take £4500 and leave £500

The RTP result is the same for the game as if I hit it at £1 stake but it’s become way more expensive for the casino.

That to me is more likely to be the case imo..:

Either way it’s bullshit

 

[pinnit2014]

Like I said, one of the few games I don’t mind upping stakes because it’s not afraid to drop the bonus in (compared to some games whereby I’d be bust on those stakes) Whether the wins are shite on them, well; Ive not hit early retirement yet.

As for the big wins on big stakes? Most Iv had on 2 quid or above, it’s around 1200x. To be fair, on 1.50s on Immortal Romance ( which is still my most played game to date I think), iv only hit 1500 or above once (4 reel WD).

Stakes 2 quid or above only account for probably 5 to 10 percent of my Bonanza play ( upper recently due to it being relatively kind) so tbh I’m gonna need to be in the right place at the right time with regards to a biggish win.

 

[Sasukdcf]

So using that logic then

As you seem to be a regular player of bonanza

2 questions

1) what would you guess is average feature value overall ?

2) how many times would you guess you have hit a x200 feature or more at low stakes

 

[pinnit2014]

1.102x is the average

2. Honestly I couldn’t say. From feeling, I hit more 200 plus on a quid than say 20p. But that’s all it is, my feeling, as don’t have the granular stats.

I don’t get het up about it. I have a set budget, I like the game, I play it and sometimes I’m lucky to withdraw from it. Honestly don’t see it any better or worse than other games.

 

[snorky510238]

I would honestly say it’s far better than most other games. There are hundreds of games that don’t pay out huge wins and are balance drainers at the same time.

For me pound for pound Bonanza is the best balanced game there is.

 

[pinnit2014]

I would honestly say it’s far better than most other games. There are hundreds of games that don’t pay out huge wins and are balance drainers at the same time.

For me pound for pound Bonanza is the best balanced game there is.

I don’t like PNG because I can never tell what they are: least with B you know what you get: several good base game hits, infuriating bonuses, happy time ones and maybe a good wagering session. Mainly maddening but hey ho, that’s slots. If we were all rational we wouldn’t gamble ;-)

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Been absolutely shocking all week the hate I feel for bonanza is real right now :/

 

[nutnut]

Been absolutely shocking all week the hate I feel for bonanza is real right now :/

Take a break. Trust me. Aside from base game hit not seen a good bonus in ages. X3 and x10 today you not missing much. Dont chase a bonus that pays nothing.

 

[goatwack]

That's all this game is anyway, the chase of the bonus. Getting it is like 1/8th of an orgasm right there, like sneezing

That and the occasional base-game wonderhit. Other than that it's simply chasing something that isn't there!

And while we're at it Nutnut, I thought you said yesterday - or the day before - you're gonna play Bonanza less?

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Take a break. Trust me. Aside from base game hit not seen a good bonus in ages. X3 and x10 today you not missing much. Dont chase a bonus that pays nothing.

You are spot on, I stopped playing bonanza for a long time and was happier for it! Had more fun and wasn’t so annoyed whilst playing. Low and behold go back to bonanza and the rage returns haha it has an effect on me I scream at my phone and laptop much to my boyfriends dismay haha he doesn’t get it how bonanza can have you going bat shit crazy!!

 

[Luckyscouser45]

That's all this game is anyway, the chase of the bonus. Getting it is like 1/8th of an orgasm right there, like sneezing

That and the occasional base-game wonderhit. Other than that it's simply chasing something that isn't there!

And while we're at it Nutnut, I thought you said yesterday - or the day before - you're gonna play Bonanza less?

Hahahahaha you described it perfectly it’s a relief followed by rage when it doesn’t get past x3 multiplier

 

[sufferinsilence]

Am I really the only one that has never gotten an awesome basegame hit? 100x is my best and I've done way too many spins to admit, not as much as some of you on this thread though. And my best bonus is just shy of 400x which isn't that great either.

 

[snorky510238]

The clue with Bonanza is don’t flog the dead horse. As in when it’s cold (and it’s fairly obvious when it is) walk away.

It’s only the same as any other slot but for some reason people are hell bent on chasing a bonus that on certain days isn’t going to come.

You all know my theories on how the playing field isn’t level everyday. Well just maybe I am not as crazy as you think. Apart from the obvious answer you get from the purists (it’s random) how else do you explain the hot and cold steaks these slots throw out continuously.

My answer is there is more to it than we are told (based on undoubted similarities to FOBTS). I would love to sit with some of you for a slotting session and predict how a slot is going to play for you after watching the first 25 spins. I am not always right obviously but I have a pretty good strike rate.

My tip for playing Bonanza is 75 spins or 30% of your bankroll (whichever comes first). Then make another decision based on what you see. Given that the average bonus is x100 (I think) it doesn’t pay to go far beyond this point because essentially you are then chasing a bonus that will on average only put you level or a few quid in front.

To play in the region of 1,000 spins chasing the bonus is madness, like when I say the average is x100. Why do people treat Bonanza differently than other slots? I don’t get it.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

The clue with Bonanza is don’t flog the dead horse. As in when it’s cold (and it’s fairly obvious when it is) walk away.

It’s only the same as any other slot but for some reason people are hell bent on chasing a bonus that on certain days isn’t going to come.

You all know my theories on how the playing field isn’t level everyday. Well just maybe I am not as crazy as you think. Apart from the obvious answer you get from the purists (it’s random) how else do you explain the hot and cold steaks these slots throw out continuously.

My answer is there is more to it than we are told (based on undoubted similarities to FOBTS). I would love to sit with some of you for a slotting session and predict how a slot is going to play for you after watching the first 25 spins. I am not always right obviously but I have a pretty good strike rate.

My tip for playing Bonanza is 75 spins or 30% of your bankroll (whichever comes first). Then make another decision based on what you see. Given that the average bonus is x100 (I think) it doesn’t pay to go far beyond this point because essentially you are then chasing a bonus that will on average only put you level or a few quid in front.

To play in the region of 1,000 spins chasing the bonus is madness, like when I say the average is x100. Why do people treat Bonanza differently than other slots? I don’t get it.

Because it has a strange hold on folk. When everything is telling you to run from
The slot you just keep hitting spin waiting for that gold. I get what you mean though when it’s cold it’s blatant and that’s when you need to run for the hills but as I said it’s like a trance.

 

[pinnit2014]

Going bonus daft. 8 on 2 quid.

That’s the good news - bad is that all bar 1 were under 50x

 

[nutnut]

Going bonus daft. 8 on 2 quid.

That’s the good news - bad is that all bar 1 were under 50x

funny thing about this game, you would think lots of bonuses one would chuck x100/200 to make a withdraw. but plenty of times ive had 3/4 and not even enough to make a withdrawal.

but least you hitting them gives you half a chance. for me these bastards are hidden and when do appear cant even muster a x20

 

[nutnut]

That's all this game is anyway, the chase of the bonus. Getting it is like 1/8th of an orgasm right there, like sneezing

That and the occasional base-game wonderhit. Other than that it's simply chasing something that isn't there!

And while we're at it Nutnut, I thought you said yesterday - or the day before - you're gonna play Bonanza less?

I'm restricted on all my accounts bar willhill, though I do have access to my girlfriends...... but i used to play this min 5hrs a day, im down to 1 hour every other day depending on if i get a win i play it little more but wins and more so withdrawals been so bad i not got chance to play it as much.

 

[Supababe]

Don’t you love it when a game is clearly busted yet the casino says....

“Our providers have confirmed that the same evidence is being shown their end, that the game round has completed successfully without error with the above payouts. They also checked their logs and can confirm again that no errors or defects have occurred in this round and all play and payouts are confirmed. The round completed correctly and credited the appropriate payout.

Am I missing something here? I’m pretty sure that there should be at least 1 more cascade win.....

 

[goatwack]

That's definitely a case of the missing Dresden

 

[nutnut]

Good luck getting that sorted supababe, ive had weird shite not sorted on this game.

currently filling the game up so pinnit can trigger another bonus

 

[goatwack]

Pinnit needs to post a few bad Bonanza screenshots because I'm pretty sure he's broken Nutnut's spirit