New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming
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It’s just not paying at the moment haven’t seen a decent bonus in ages. Pfff!
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You should rub for hills. Honestly this game is so dead since DOA I'm amazed you hit a x1600.but you wont see another like that for long time.
Never in years of playing it have I seen the bonuses so bad over and over.
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I was starting to think it was my 2 quid stakes but you reassured me it's not that at least just the game is fucked.
I had 17 spin feature at 2 pound pay 12 quid.lol
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Bonanza, well not only this slot but everything went kinda dead, ate a big part of my winnings of that crazy €8 bonus back in just a little over a month. And not even playing big stakes! This is the worst run I've had on slots ever since I started playing... Crazy downswing for me because I'm not used to it to be honest 
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It’s a year I think since my last cashout.Bonanza, well not only this slot but everything went kinda dead, ate a big part of my winnings of that crazy €8 bonus back in just a little over a month. And not even playing big stakes! This is the worst run I've had on slots ever since I started playing... Crazy downswing for me because I'm not used to it to be honest
How bad is that...
My vip status at 2 casinos has gone since as I just don’t find the fun anymore, and it’s impossible to ever get ahead, that’s with and without a bonus.
Another thing that stopped me playing as much is some of the casinos I was loyal at wouldn’t even give me 5 free spins on starburst, not that I ever asked.
Bonanza was good for a while as yes it holds the balance, but a 1000x win is like winning the lottery. Better things to do with my time and money (or lack of lol)
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Having decent playtime and losing a deposit isn't that bad but when you pay in and lose it all without even a sniff of a feature the fun stops quite quickly! I cashout atleast my deposit when I reach double my deposit which usually isn't that hard but it just hasn't happened at all. I've never really cared about the status of my accounts or asked casino's if I could get free spins/a NDB, but just used them when they offered them. Which is also what I'll be doing until atleast the start of next month, I lost enough for now
I might even attempt to wager a welcome bonus next time I deposit, that's how bad I feel about my playtime lately 
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Proof of the 58 IAR or it didnt happen
Feel for ya tho sounds like your having one of my runs!!
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The bonanza god would never lie about anything bonanza related.Proof of the 58 IAR or it didnt happen
Feel for ya tho sounds like your having one of my runs!!
Take back your abhorrent slur or you will be impaled with over 9 9inch d’s!...
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Proof of the 58 IAR or it didnt happen
Feel for ya tho sounds like your having one of my runs!!
i wish i was lying i envy the day to brag about a big win but honestly this curse just isnt escaping me. worse run ever.
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You and daz need to do a 5 hour bonanza marathon together mate.
It’d be the best thing ever!!.
Sure we could find a casino on here to bankroll it!..
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Some things never change. I played it sporadically last week and it’s the same old shit. Btg games make me feel a bit sick whilst playing them. Come to the conclusion that whilst slotting I don’t wanna feel stressed out so I now play other slots which feel more fun and less piss taking. It’s crazy how bonanza nearly made me quit slots. It’s an evil game and it’s scary how it has hypnotised so many people. And don’t get me started on the lack of big wins on this. Proof is in the pudding that most casinos have dead or alive max bet so low as the potential is MASSIVE and proven so. Yet bonanza max bet is £20 loooool.As if finding the D wasn’t hard enough. The G has now become invisible.View attachment 108181
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3 accurate words, idk what it is but no other slot leaves you feeling like its laughing at you. it's like it knows it's taking the pill but you still play it.
if I was playing this at 4 pound still id be in a nuthouse.
it's got that bad hellocasino have sent me a daily 50% to 100% offer EVERYDAY for 2 weeks straight and still not single cash out.
some jammy bastard will put 5 in and hit a x2000 at 20p. it is weekend so if it's to ever pay its today but I got budget if 50 quid to be played at 6 with my 100% match. that's all for me.
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3 accurate words, idk what it is but no other slot leaves you feeling like its laughing at you. it's like it knows it's taking the pill but you still play it.
if I was playing this at 4 pound still id be in a nuthouse.
it's got that bad hellocasino have sent me a daily 50% to 100% offer EVERYDAY for 2 weeks straight and still not single cash out.
some jammy bastard will put 5 in and hit a x2000 at 20p. it is weekend so if it's to ever pay its today but I got budget if 50 quid to be played at 6 with my 100% match. that's all for me.
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Thanks for clearing that up
- Just now people think I'm hammering away at this filth.Yeah mate - told you so. It feels compensated to me - Irrespective of what people say, I have never experienced such bad runs after a smallish good hit. Random feels untrue when you continuously cannot even breach a 30x - 50x bet no matter when or how you play it.
When I say small hit, I mean, I never hit anything near 1000x - my best was about 700x. Then, I bled... and bled and it panned out the same way every time and every place I played it. Watch your RTP drop to around 80% if you continue playing. Once you breach the 100% RTP mark on Bonanza, it's almost guaranteed to bring you back down - Harder than ever.
You will score the odd 100x here and there, but overall, this slot is designed with greed and trickery in mind.
Nate
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Hope your shit run ends soon and glad you have stopped playing the £4 spins bonanza plays so differently on higher stakes which is a complete joke and you are spot on that slot can send you to the mental it’s crazy how can a slot do this to people? Telling you know it’s the devils creation
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We all know it’s compensated and that it tracks your previous sessions wins losses so will not let you win after okish hit/win yet we all go back to it in the hope It is different. It’s pure insanity. I really do feel sick these days the moment I do play it and it’s getting few and far between now. It’s vileThanks for clearing that up
Yeah mate - told you so. It feels compensated to me - Irrespective of what people say, I have never experienced such bad runs after a smallish good hit. Random feels untrue when you continuously cannot even breach a 30x - 50x bet no matter when or how you play it.
When I say small hit, I mean, I never hit anything near 1000x - my best was about 700x. Then, I bled... and bled and it panned out the same way every time and every place I played it. Watch your RTP drop to around 80% if you continue playing. Once you breach the 100% RTP mark on Bonanza, it's almost guaranteed to bring you back down - Harder than ever.
You will score the odd 100x here and there, but overall, this slot is designed with greed and trickery in mind.
Nate
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“At £4 a spin I’d be in the nuthouse” (as opposed to the nutnut house) presumably. Just remember at £2 a spin your halfway there.
Seriously though I hope your luck changes the game does seem dead as do all Btg at the moment. Possibly just not the volume of money going through them anymore.
I know it shouldn’t make a difference but I think it does. They are just glorified AWPs Imo. It even tells you they are. They payout 96% of what they take. The more they take the more chance of a decent hit.
One reason is people are starting to see that potential vs actuality are a million miles apart but I think the main reason is that players back then who liked megaways only had 3 or 4 to choose from so all the money was played through them probably with Bonanza having the Lions share. Fast forward to now and is it about 30 megaways we have to choose from. Along with the fact people have got fed up with chasing rainbows this probably goes a fair way to explaining why it’s not the game it was.
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I’d a cracking wee low roller session on the new PP Game The Dog House - in an hour I’d a 500 x and several 300 to 400x wins.
Then jumped to B and did 100 spins on two quid and fluked a 200 x. That’s how I think you should play on Bonanza if you want to play it - if you go into Bonanza as the first game you play, cold, you’re asking for trouble.
It’s a decent wagering game if in the mood and will chuck a 500 plus win if you catch it on a good day. But it’s not a slot to do sole sessions on IMO.
Then jumped to B and did 100 spins on two quid and fluked a 200 x. That’s how I think you should play on Bonanza if you want to play it - if you go into Bonanza as the first game you play, cold, you’re asking for trouble.
It’s a decent wagering game if in the mood and will chuck a 500 plus win if you catch it on a good day. But it’s not a slot to do sole sessions on IMO.
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the point about the game not having as much money pumped into it is key. I am firm believer games need to be massed paid to get these decent hits since DOA it has took massive turn for the worse as less are playing it.
anyway my session for tonight is done with, 2 massive cascade teases that had 4+ drops to get a d both times never landed. you know when that happens your session is doomed. gl for anyway that plays tonight, sure is a decent hit usually on weekends.
anyway my session for tonight is done with, 2 massive cascade teases that had 4+ drops to get a d both times never landed. you know when that happens your session is doomed. gl for anyway that plays tonight, sure is a decent hit usually on weekends.
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Thanks for clearing that up
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You will score the odd 100x here and there, but overall, this slot is designed with greed and trickery in mind.
Nate
And therein lies its genius.
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Despite the numerous pages of this thread, the conspiracies, the evidence of decent hits, the good, the bad and the ugly, I have to admit that this is the "best*" slots I have seen in all my 16 or so years of online play.
*The reason behind this thought process is simply the huge dedicated player base it has "self created", the subliminal programming it does to players mindsets, almost to the point of brainwashing, no seriously from what I've read/witnessed etc that is exactly what it does.
I rarely play it nowadays as it bores me but 7/10 regular, seasoned players will fall into what I have described.
From a business point of view it is simply a masterpiece!
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It is indeed. A few pages back I touched on this point by saying. ‘We didn’t find Bonanza, it found us’. It has a bit of everything and since playing it I find most other slots pretty dull. Players didn’t know it but subconsciously they were waiting for this.
In its defence I halve always stated to players that berate it. Play thousands of spins through any other slot and show me one that consistently beats it pound for pound and ticks all the boxes. I haven’t seen one.
In its defence I halve always stated to players that berate it. Play thousands of spins through any other slot and show me one that consistently beats it pound for pound and ticks all the boxes. I haven’t seen one.
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Well I did have a few good wins from Bonanza. But that was before I started reusing SlotTracker.
Now it's fairly obvious that it's taking those winnings back, and a bit more as well, and not even doing it gradually or being subtle about it.
No doubt 41,000 spins won't be considered statistically significant, and it's all just down to bad luck.
Now it's fairly obvious that it's taking those winnings back, and a bit more as well, and not even doing it gradually or being subtle about it.
No doubt 41,000 spins won't be considered statistically significant, and it's all just down to bad luck.
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That's absolutely brutal! While it might not be significant in the grand scheme of things, 41k spins in 3 months is significant for you as a sole player and these stats are just crap.
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Do you know your lifetime rtp?
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No, I stopped using SlotTracker for about a year. So when I restarted using it in February, I cleared all my data, so I could start from scratch.
I think I was running at about 89%, when I stopped using it, and that was over about 250,000 spins.
All my other regular games, over a similar amount of spins were all reasonable - between about 96% and 105%
I do mainly use Bonanza with bonus money, not that that would or should make a difference. But it does mean I haven't actually lost 4k of my own money.
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Yeah I just thought maybe you were running really high before and those stats were just dragging you back to where you should be.
The more I think about rtp the more I think unless it is tracked somehow the chances of you hitting it on some slots are highly unlikely. Especially the megaways games. If you think about it most of us will never play 1 million spins (a ball park figure that’s branded about) that you supposedly need to achieve to get a true representation.
I am pretty sure @The Reel Story mentioned in his DHV analysis that the reel strips have 120 symbols on each. By my calculations that’s billions of permutations. Given that the vast majority of players won’t complete 100,000 spins I find it impossible to believe you could expect to hit anywhere near the trtp without a little intervention of some kind
.I am sure I will be told I am missing something but that seems a logical way to look at it for me. I await rotten tomatoes from the balcony
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Oh so they finally got to you as wellYeah I just thought maybe you were running really high before and those stats were just dragging you back to where you should be.
The more I think about rtp the more I think unless it is tracked somehow the chances of you hitting it on some slots are highly unlikely. Especially the megaways games. If you think about it most of us will never play 1 million spins (a ball park figure that’s branded about) that you supposedly need to achieve to get a true representation.
I am pretty sure @The Reel Story mentioned in his DHV analysis that the reel strips have 120 symbols on each. By my calculations that’s billions of permutations. Given that the vast majority of players won’t complete 100,000 spins I find it impossible to believe you could expect to hit anywhere near the trtp without a little intervention of some kind
I am sure I will be told I am missing something but that seems a logical way to look at it for me. I await rotten tomatoes from the balcony
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Yeah I just thought maybe you were running really high before and those stats were just dragging you back to where you should be.
The more I think about rtp the more I think unless it is tracked somehow the chances of you hitting it on some slots are highly unlikely. Especially the megaways games. If you think about it most of us will never play 1 million spins (a ball park figure that’s branded about) that you supposedly need to achieve to get a true representation.
I am pretty sure @The Reel Story mentioned in his DHV analysis that the reel strips have 120 symbols on each. By my calculations that’s billions of permutations. Given that the vast majority of players won’t complete 100,000 spins I find it impossible to believe you could expect to hit anywhere near the trtp without a little intervention of some kind
I am sure I will be told I am missing something but that seems a logical way to look at it for me. I await rotten tomatoes from the balcony
You're correct. Most individual players will never actually hit the RTP of a game. Partly because of the number of spins and partly, as you say, because of the sheer complexity of some of the games. If you've watched my RTP video you can see how much variation I was getting with absolutely tiny reel sets and no bonus rounds etc.
55% is still a terrible RTP for 41k spins though. I'm sorry for your luck haha. The overall stats on stottracker for Bonanza actually have it over performing slightly though.
P.S, Danger has 178 symbols on each reel in the base game and it has 14 different reel sets as well (for all the bonus rounds) so that is, by my calculations, a metric f**k tonne of possibilities
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Are scatters actually allocated a position on the reels (if so how many per reel) or do they just appear randomly when the bonus round is triggered in DHV and Bonanza if you know?You're correct. Most individual players will never actually hit the RTP of a game. Partly because of the number of spins and partly, as you say, because of the sheer complexity of some of the games. If you've watched my RTP video you can see how much variation I was getting with absolutely tiny reel sets and no bonus rounds etc.
55% is still a terrible RTP for 41k spins though. I'm sorry for your luck haha. The overall stats on stottracker for Bonanza actually have it over performing slightly though.
P.S, Danger has 178 symbols on each reel in the base game and it has 14 different reel sets as well (for all the bonus rounds) so that is, by my calculations, a metric f**k tonne of possibilities
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Are scatters actually allocated a position on the reels (if so how many per reel) or do they just appear randomly when the bonus round is triggered in DHV and Bonanza if you know?
Yes they are symbol 11 on the reels. For DHV the count is as follows
Reel Number.......Number of Scatters
1........................3
2........................4
3........................3
4........................3
5........................4
6........................3
Not sure about Bonanza, as I've not looked in to it, but I would expect it to have the scatters as symbols on the reels and with similar numbers.
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Hellocasino just enjoy making me go back and back. they are that confident this game is gimped they will chuck out daily offers to me. got 50 limit which means i can deposit at 6 again. one last try!
Hellocasino just enjoy making me go back and back. they are that confident this game is gimped they will chuck out daily offers to me. got 50 limit which means i can deposit at 6 again. one last try!
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100% deposit matches are like gold dust nowadays.You really like flogging deceased horses
More rare than a bonanza x100 win
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Its really not difficult, you cant compare the two DOA2 Super high variance, Bonanza medium variance at best.
Slate bonanza all you like but until DOA2 has ripped you a new one with £500 lost in 1 hr with no bonus over 25x either your not gonna see reason on why you cant really compare.
Each player falls into a preferred slot variance bracket whether they realize it or not, the people that like bonanza obviously are in the correct bracket the ones that don't are not, simples!
I have played around 120,000 spins in bonanza which I know is not a lot compared to most people but have had no less fun than any other provider, and way more fun that the likes of PnG, red tiger, pragmatic which all appear to hate me.
Slots are here to make money for the casinos and providers so the end outcome for the player is always going to be the same EVENTUALLY whichever one you play.
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Hope you do better than me!
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That is how last 60 bonuses have gone. I had a 17 spin trigger late last night at £3 on skybet. it paid £43. Their is literally no point hitting a bonus right now. because they are all absolute shit.
Comical the rep is running a comp that none of us have a big win thats worth posting.
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bonanza was chronic today at skyvegas, bad base game and few bonuses, I think I got one in the end which was 50x but the game had by then already taken 400x off me 
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jesus that 100% match bonus was gone instantly. £100 at £2 a spin didn't even get through 100 spins!!
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You admitted you had some good wins before reusing slot tracker so data is now useless really, when it comes to stats its all or nothing or your going to skew the results.
TBH the second you delete past stats you make future stats irrelevant and meaningless as you need all play data to have the true picture.
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I actually thought they were 177 each in the base? maybe @Big Time Gaming could confirm ??
even at the lower 177 per base reel your looking at 30.7 Trillion combinations if they are 178 then your looking at 31.8 Trillion so moaning about not hitting RTP after even 100,000 spins is redundant.
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But if everything is random, and not reliant on any previous wins. Then those stats could easily be me or anyone else, playing the game for the very first time, for 42,000 spins.
It's not like I'm just picking a bad patch of a couple of thousand spins out of the data. That's the data for a straight 42,000 spins
Plus the previous wins, didn't come near the £4k 'lost'
It's not like I'm just picking a bad patch of a couple of thousand spins out of the data. That's the data for a straight 42,000 spins
Plus the previous wins, didn't come near the £4k 'lost'
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Sorry, yes, 177. I just glanced at the row number in my spreadsheet but forgot to deduct the heading row
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Every angle is covered
but loosely. Didn’t hit rtp = you didn’t play enough spins ( at 30 trillion combos nobody ever will).
Didn’t hit a bonus in 2,000 spins = this can happen when it’s random and so on.
Given that there are 177 symbols per reel and scatters only represent 3 or 4 per reel it would be quite feasible not to hit a bonus for 20,000 spins but that doesn’t happen either because nobody would play the game. So next time you manage to hit 3 bonuses in 20 or 30 spins just think how lucky you’ve been. You have just defied odds similar to winning three lotteries in one weekend. Happens all the time.
but loosely. Didn’t hit rtp = you didn’t play enough spins ( at 30 trillion combos nobody ever will). Didn’t hit a bonus in 2,000 spins = this can happen when it’s random and so on.
Given that there are 177 symbols per reel and scatters only represent 3 or 4 per reel it would be quite feasible not to hit a bonus for 20,000 spins but that doesn’t happen either because nobody would play the game. So next time you manage to hit 3 bonuses in 20 or 30 spins just think how lucky you’ve been. You have just defied odds similar to winning three lotteries in one weekend
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Sorry, yes, 177. I just glanced at the row number in my spreadsheet but forgot to deduct the heading row
Not sure they are real strips anyway as 3,4,3,3,4,3 scatters per reel would make the overall ave feature 141 spins ( if i done it right just did a quick calculation ) which seems way lower than reality ?? But if anyones interested i will check my math, anyway off topic so will shut up.....
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Yes i understand that but again 42,000 is a drop in the ocean on billions of combinations im at 106% on one of my sites after 45,000 so would appear i have some of your features/RTP ..... sorry about that
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Most of the comparisons on here, comparing Bonanza and DOA II, aren't comparing them like for like.
They're stating which one is proving their 'promised' potential and which isn't
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