New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[snorky510238]

If there is no difference (you don't lose money faster) between buying the feature and not buying it, then there is no difference on morality or RG.
I proved you don't lose money faster. Now if you want to say it is easier to lose control, I also disagree.
It is easier to get disappointed, find it boring and stop playing, that is what happened with me and White Rabbit.

Ok your missing the point.Lets explain it in the simplest form I can think of............................You buy a feature for £500 and it returns for arguments sake £140 and the feature took 3 minutes(just a guess)...................If you deposit £500 and play £1 a spin would your balance be at £140 after 3 minutes(possibly on bonanza LOL)no it wouldn't so given that you lose in the long run you are speeding up the process.

 

[goatwack]

Ok your missing the point.Lets explain it in the simplest form I can think of............................You buy a feature for £500 and it returns for arguments sake £140 and the feature took 3 minutes(just a guess)...................If you deposit £500 and play £1 a spin would your balance be at £140 after 3 minutes(possibly on bonanza LOL)no it wouldn't so given that you lose in the long run you are speeding up the process.

Well yes, it's simply a fast way of losing. Of course waiting for the bonus doesn't guarantee it will arrive, but there's always a chance of a decent base game hit.

The buy features are ultimately filth, and what the UKGC et al should be focussing on. But they won't, they're more obsessed with making empty gestures and hand- holding.......meanwhile BTG can't quite believe how they're getting away with this!

 

[snorky510238]

Well yes, it's simply a fast way of losing. Of course waiting for the bonus doesn't guarantee it will arrive, but there's always a chance of a decent base game hit.

The buy features are ultimately filth, and what the UKGC et al should be focussing on. But they won't, they're more obsessed with making empty gestures and hand- holding.......meanwhile BTG can't quite believe how they're getting away with this!

Yeah for me buying a feature is open to too much exploitation if there was anything untoward occurring it would be the first place I would be looking.It takes away the ethics of it all aswell.Its a bit like being a kid at Xmas and waking up to find your presents all unwrapped and ultimately being disappointed (as you often were) at least when they were wrapped up it might be what you'd hoped for.

 

[goatwack]

Yeah for me buying a feature is open to too much exploitation if there was anything untoward occurring it would be the first place I would be looking.It takes away the ethics of it all aswell.Its a bit like being a kid at Xmas and waking up to find your presents all unwrapped and ultimately being disappointed (as you often were) at least when they were wrapped up it might be what you'd hoped for.

They're quite simply tapping in to what gamblers look forward to the most, the bonus round......who doesn't get excited anew every time a bonus triggers? I surprise myself that those three scatters can release so much dopamine, it's quite unnerving

The bonus is where it's all at. So by feeding that elation of just triggering the damn thing BTG have crossed over several lines. And I can attest to how flat 'buying' consecutive bonuses is, almost as if by subterfuge and not luck. Take my documented lamentations in the White Rabbit thread for reference

 

[nikantw]

Ok your missing the point.Lets explain it in the simplest form I can think of............................You buy a feature for £500 and it returns for arguments sake £140 and the feature took 3 minutes(just a guess)...................If you deposit £500 and play £1 a spin would your balance be at £140 after 3 minutes(possibly on bonanza LOL)no it wouldn't so given that you lose in the long run you are speeding up the process.

Or you buy a feature with 10 and pays 9.70 and you lost 0.30 in 3 min. Then you play 20 spins of 20 each and you lose, lets say 350.
I feel you are trying to "force" the argument here. Can't compare different bet sizes. And your calculations should be based on the TRTP and the numbers we know from White Rabbit (actually BTG said this will be cheaper than 100x).

 

[09237653]

I would buy features if the option was there on Bonanza the base game is hell trying to get a trigger to land , surely it can also be easily implemented as it does not affect the normal gameplay as the coin symbols disappear when they land.

 

[snorky510238]

Or you buy a feature with 10 and pays 9.70 and you lost 0.30 in 3 min. Then you play 20 spins of 20 each and you lose, lets say 350.
I feel you are trying to "force" the argument here. Can't compare different bet sizes. And your calculations should be based on the TRTP and the numbers we know from White Rabbit (actually BTG said this will be cheaper than 100x).

Ok put it another way.If they have a buy the feature option on a game and it's clearly more profitable than playing as normal everyone would just buy in all the time and the base game wouldn't get touched.Remember trtp is not individually based and is based on infinite time(allegedly)so given the run of bonus rounds some people have posted on here I just think it would be a recipe for disaster.Just remember it's the programmers job to get your money off you as quickly and as cunningly as they can without you smelling a rat.When it comes to a buy the feature option even the "pied piper would run for his life"

 

[CC07]

Low roller me is probably never going to get a “big win” but happy with this evenings bash. £5 deposit at Sky Vegas. 20p spins. Hit the bonus round winning £42.78 then had a £36.59 win on the base game

Cashed out at £75 before I squandered it all!

 

[goatwack]

View attachment 88467 View attachment 88468 Low roller me is probably never going to get a “big win” but happy with this evenings bash. £5 deposit at Sky Vegas. 20p spins. Hit the bonus round winning £42.78 then had a £36.59 win on the base game

Cashed out at £75 before I squandered it all!

That's very similar to my session today, had a £5 chip, had a couple of decent early hits, couple of good bonuses, and reached about £70 or so.

Then I bust out

 

[CC07]

That's very similar to my session today, had a £5 chip, had a couple of decent early hits, couple of good bonuses, and reached about £70 or so.

Then I bust out

As you can see I’ve taken your advice and not upped my game! Maybe you need to take your own advice! It’s working out just fine for me

 

[goatwack]

As you can see I’ve taken your advice and not upped my game! Maybe you need to take your own advice! It’s working out just fine for me

I fear you may be right

 

[kretz1]

Today I finally got my 1000 x hit on this slot.
Happy Days

 

[dogshead1]

Well I'm starting to think this slot is not random at all. I've played well over 6000 spins now and not seen one feature. Lost every deposit. Had GOL over 200 times and only 3 times It cascaded but no feature. It's total bs I'm sure I can go on till XMAS without it dropping in. And yes the server still keeps not responding!

 

[snorky510238]

There is definitely something wrong somewhere because every session has pretty much the same outcome.If your going to win it happens straight away infact I can't recall a session where I have been well down and managed to turn it around.It seems like it's programmed to get you so far in then just block off the bonus round somehow.

 

[dogshead1]

It certainly feels that way!!!

 

[dogshead1]

What else is also odd is all of a sudden Bonanza is the only slot that slot tracker will not record any history on!!!

 

[pinnit2014]

BTG maybe don’t want the x8 bonus results affecting their reported RTP.

Either that or ST doesn’t want to depress people at the weekend.

 

[snorky510238]

What else is also odd is all of a sudden Bonanza is the only slot that slot tracker will not record any history on!!!

What a coincidence doesn't fill you with much confidence that things are as legitimate as we are suppose to believe.I would love to see the genuine figures across every site of how much this game has taken and paid out.I think the results would be jaw dropping(probably enough to dislocate it).

 

[slotter999]

Well I'm starting to think this slot is not random at all. I've played well over 6000 spins now and not seen one feature. Lost every deposit. Had GOL over 200 times and only 3 times It cascaded but no feature. It's total bs I'm sure I can go on till XMAS without it dropping in. And yes the server still keeps not responding!

There is another thread about Gameart games playing ridiculously high in demo mode. I have a feeling you wouldn't even be able to win on that.

I have no idea why anyone would pursue a feature over 6000 spins. Surely that cannot be healthy?

 

[slotter999]

What a coincidence doesn't fill you with much confidence that things are as legitimate as we are suppose to believe.I would love to see the genuine figures across every site of how much this game has taken and paid out.I think the results would be jaw dropping(probably enough to dislocate it).

What figure would make your jaw drop out of interest....X RTP over X number of spins?

 

[dunover]

I think the 'feature buy' on this slot will actually put people off long term. Players will try it, and as with Shite Rabbit they'll probably get 25-30 features off of a 2-3x feature buy deposit, i.e. 200-300 deposit playing 1 unit base stake for a 100 buy-in. After watching all these features, firstly their eyes will bleed and secondly (and most importantly!) the player then realizes just how slim their chances are of hitting anything over 200x!! They'll walk away realizing that they just had 25 consecutive mediocre features and when returning to 'normal' play will then be aware that at 230 (new Bonanza Chilli) or 460 spins per natural feature average, they will be now be faced with playing 5,750 or 11,500 spins in the base game play at 80-ish% RTP to replicate that quantity of features and outcome.

I say this because ever since having a feature-buy session on Shite Rabbit (even though I won as during the 25-off features I hit a 1000x one as you may have seen in my video) I cannot now face playing the game 'normally' as it seems boring and meaningless.

 

[snorky510238]

What figure would make your jaw drop out of interest....X RTP over X number of spins?

Well judging by the posts on this thread people seem to be doing an awful lot of spins for no return so I am guessing if you combined everybody's play into 1 trtp would be pretty low.Personally my rtp is 65% and I think I am 1 of the lucky ones.

 

[dunover]

Please be wary - honestly the 'technical' issues I've had there the last few weeks with Bonanza are beyond a joke. I usually rave about Sky, so not saying it's them - as I have never had an issue with any other slot on Vegas/casino or bingo.

But they seem to think a 5 spin test worked, so it's an issue my end! How 5 test spins can emulate a several hour session is beyond me!?

I've asked them to escalate it and haven't logged in today in a silent protest

Right GB, I have been having game issue errors at Sky Vegas and like you got on chat. They tested the loading error (as soon as I pressed spin there was a pop-up box 'something's gone wrong' repeatedly). They 'tested' it their end from my a/c and confirmed it's an 'account-based error' so nothing to do with the usual crap they tell you about cleaning your cache, reloading apps, cookies, browser, wrong type of cat food etc. They said they'd escalate it to the technical dept. - I said this should've been sorted ages ago as I know for a fact many others have complained about this issue before (re. this forum!)

Result - closed the account for 2 years so the tossers won't see another penny of my money!

 

[CC07]

Right GB, I have been having game issue errors at Sky Vegas and like you got on chat. They tested the loading error (as soon as I pressed spin there was a pop-up box 'something's gone wrong' repeatedly). They 'tested' it their end from my a/c and confirmed it's an 'account-based error' so nothing to do with the usual crap they tell you about cleaning your cache, reloading apps, cookies, browser, wrong type of cat food etc. They said they'd escalate it to the technical dept. - I said this should've been sorted ages ago as I know for a fact many others have complained about this issue before (re. this forum!)

Result - closed the account for 2 years so the tossers won't see another penny of my money!

I had issues too today - winning combination but no winnings paid??? Waited 30mins on chat and couldn’t get through to anyone so sent an email instead. It just stuck at that point then flashed to spin again after taking my bet off

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I’ve always had issues on Sky with bonanza but even worse is Rhino. Constantly goes wrong, really winds u up that bit more with the juddering slow reels especially when ur 300 spins without a feature and constantly have to reload the game.

Just give me that bonus guarantee so I can get off ffs.

 

[goatwack]

I would not be taken aback if the game's RTP was in the 60-70s in all honesty. It will go on indefinitely with paltry 0.5x wins up until your balance is depleted, or you get that stupendous 400x to take you (almost) back to your start balance

It's great when you catch it in a generous mood, because then it's without rival. It's just that it's extremely rare, and more than likely just repaying for your past losses on it

 

[slot_zombie]

I would not be taken aback if the game's RTP was in the 60-70s in all honesty. It will go on indefinitely with paltry 0.5x wins up until your balance is depleted, or you get that stupendous 400x to take you (almost) back to your start balance

It's great when you catch it in a generous mood, because then it's without rival. It's just that it's extremely rare, and more than likely just repaying for your past losses on it

Tut tut, as an experienced forum member you should know that everything is above board, regulated, audited and legit - on real and free play...

... oh wait...

 

[CC07]

Bonanza is my friend today. Just hit GOLD for the second time (in under 50 spins)!!!!!!!!!

 

[slot_zombie]

View attachment 88538 Bonanza is my friend today. Just hit GOLD for the second time (in under 50 spins)!!!!!!!!!

20 pence spin

 

[CC07]

20 pence spin

I’m never brave enough to go any higher!!

 

[slot_zombie]

I’m never brave enough to go any higher!!

Fair play to you, I am a low roller too but 20p would bore the pants off me. 60-80p all the way lol

 

[goatwack]

View attachment 88538 Bonanza is my friend today. Just hit GOLD for the second time (in under 50 spins)!!!!!!!!!

Kindly refrain from winning so much. It's crinkling my tinfoil hat

 

[CC07]

Kindly refrain from winning so much. It's crinkling my tinfoil hat

Beginners luck n all that! I’m sure i’ll Be getting the tinfoil out of the kitchen drawer soon enough

 

[snorky510238]

Invest money in tin foil now.Sortage predicted!!!!!

 

[greylady]

Beginners luck = hook them in for the next 100 sessions, BTG will bleed you dry

 

[goatwack]

You know how it'll direct you to the first page of a thread sometimes, when having read the latest posts. The immortalized words of Dunover sticking out like irony of the highest order.

I think you'll like this - the best BGT yet?

Great FS set-up.

How times change

(And where's the video?.......the plot thickens..........)

 

[pinnit2014]

I’m fairness he never said for whom: is or them...

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Ahhhh had a frustrating sort of stream with this last night. I had 5 bonanza bonuses while live, including a first spin gold that paid 12x. Then I hit 17 spins for 30x another for about 40x another crappy one then one I got 200x. Would be nice if a few of them paid a bit better but atleast people had the excitement to see quite a few bonuses.

 

[gilliebean]

Right GB, I have been having game issue errors at Sky Vegas and like you got on chat. They tested the loading error (as soon as I pressed spin there was a pop-up box 'something's gone wrong' repeatedly). They 'tested' it their end from my a/c and confirmed it's an 'account-based error' so nothing to do with the usual crap they tell you about cleaning your cache, reloading apps, cookies, browser, wrong type of cat food etc. They said they'd escalate it to the technical dept. - I said this should've been sorted ages ago as I know for a fact many others have complained about this issue before (re. this forum!)

Result - closed the account for 2 years so the tossers won't see another penny of my money!

I knew it! They flat out refused to test it for more than 5 spins and insisted it was my issue! You clearly deposit far more than me!

What does 'account-based error' even mean anyway!?

I've been having similar issues with Bonanza and DHV elsewhere though - sudden 'server errors' at the most 'convenient' of times - does make me wonder...

 

[slot_zombie]

Had the multiplier up to 11x in the first 3 spins last night. To be followed by 9 zero paying spins. Sigh....

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

9? You beat me by 1!!!

I stupidly uttered the words ‘This is looking promising’ only to be rewarded with 8 dead spins at X10.

Another monitor and mouse ruined by bonanza!!

 

[snorky510238]

Had 2 firsts in 20 minutes today.Gold +5 in the base game(paid a lousy x25)and a 9 gap cascade no letters in view and it popped them all in at once paid x50 no first there.I am convinced the bonus rounds are taking a bit less time to hit but are paying less to compensate for it.

 

[interlog]

Not mine (shame!!) but found elsewhere the biggest base game hit I have seen on it, well over 3,000x

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[goatwack]

Not mine (shame!!) but found elsewhere the biggest base game hit I have seen on it, well over 3,000x

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Moonlighting in other casino forums are we sir?

 

[interlog]

Moonlighting in other casino forums are we sir?

My bad..... will I get told off now, or banned again

 

[goatwack]

Goody. Not happy with last week's exploits on it, Bonanza had a good old comeback tonight

It played dreadful.....one tepid bonus round in £50's worth of micro-deposits, which paid.....who cares

Definitely the final straw with this bad boy. I'll continue to play it but only now and again, and certainly not with a starting deposit. Maybe with leftover funds and shizz.

Right, where's that BTG guy

 

[snorky510238]

There is no doubt for me bonus rounds have got worse and I think Bonanza is the perfect slot when it comes to highlighting how games are not random.I mean there is a certain mode it goes through countless times and you know the bonus isn't coming for a long time(and when it does eventually drop in out of sympathy it gives you about 20% of your loss back)and it won't come again before you bust out.With the very odd exception the bonus rounds seem to always have a certain distance between them strategically placed so it's impossible to get ahead.

 

[pinnit2014]

Really struggling to hit over 100x in the bonus. What’s more saddening is that there have been quite a few 5 quid rounds as well

However, hit 127 quid in betats free spins, 4K wagering and managed it all on Bonanza

But yeah, when you get 47 quid from a fiver round it kinda stings

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi all,

What a fantastic competition and it was hard to choose only one winner! But I had to choose the one I could relate the most to!

Winner is.......


Bluebirdy with the SpongeBob pictures!

Br,

Daniel

 

[geordiecolin]

Hi all,

What a fantastic competition and it was hard to choose only one winner! But I had to choose the one I could relate the most to!

Winner is.......


Bluebirdy with the SpongeBob pictures!

Br,

Daniel

Forgive me Dan but have you skipped your morning coffee? Was this post meant to be in the relevant thread?