New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[Jackstar]

Yeah it’s pretty brutal I done 300 quid Thursday night no D 500 yesterday no D and honestly can’t remember the last time I had over 100x base win … I do £1 spins

 

[onelastspintowinbig]

Are all btg slots going to have bonus buys added next month or just bonanza?

 

[justdoit]

Are all btg slots going to have bonus buys added next month or just bonanza?

most of old slots will get new name so they can add bonus buy like Christmas

 

[Luckyscouser45]

I see bonanza sister is now a rotten piece of shit these days. Ive nearly smashed the phone

 

[hogexd]

I see bonanza sister is now a rotten piece of shit these days. Ive nearly smashed the phone

Is this MGS or nextgen version?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Gotta gamble those spins!!

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Is this MGS or nextgen version?

Next gen I believe

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Gotta gamble those spins!!

Yeah but learned hard way when gamble chilli spins it doesn't end well and on £2 spin as well ain't got the minerals anymore to gamble bonuses haha

 

[hogexd]

Yeah but learned hard way when gamble chilli spins it doesn't end well and on £2 spin as well ain't got the minerals anymore to gamble bonuses haha

I just recently had a +6000x on 2021 next gen version of chilli. I’ve noticed in my sessions that nextgen extra chilli always loses like a few in a row but then lets you gamble all the way to 24 pretty easily. You should try a few gambles on 0.20 or something

i’ve had most 24’s on NextGen, a decent bunch on MGS but the Relax version is ruthless. I NEVER manage to get 24 on the updated relax extra chilli

also, my biggest wins on Chilli have been with 12-16 spins, so it’s not even necessary to gamble all the way. And I always collect the bonus if I get +4 on the cascade haha

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yeah brutal when you lose several on the bounce. Bit of course despite the odd miracle, only way to see the better bonuses

 

[Jono777]

I see bonanza sister is now a rotten piece of shit these days. Ive nearly smashed the phone

Forgive me if memory does not serve me well but did you not hit that monster for roughly £2.5K on 20p's?

That's yours, mine, next doors and about 5,000 others lifetime RTP right there!

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Forgive me if memory does not serve me well but did you not hit that monster for roughly £2.5K on 20p's?

That's yours, mine, next doors and about 5,000 others lifetime RTP right there!

Yes i still hope to hit again but that's one in a million

 

[ShadyFei]

Noob questions here. People are talking about versions, and I missed that in the last 808 pages of this thread.

1. What is a NextGen version or a MGS version of Bonanza?
2. How do you know which version you are playing?
3. What is the difference between the two versions?

Explain to me like I'm five. Cheers.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Nextgen and MGS are the platforms the game is run on.

To find out go to the help tab and scroll back one or two places.

Allegedly they are all the same(according to BTG) but we know this to be horse shit as sky via the platform openbet was different to all the others.

They also run at very different gameplay speeds.

Overall you’ll get fucked by them all at some point!!!!!

 

[hogexd]

Noob questions here. People are talking about versions, and I missed that in the last 808 pages of this thread.

1. What is a NextGen version or a MGS version of Bonanza?
2. How do you know which version you are playing?
3. What is the difference between the two versions?

Explain to me like I'm five. Cheers.

Well, for example, the Relax version runs super fast, like the spins and cascades are on turbo mode, I’ve had most base game bonuses on it, but the gambles fail more than on any other server in my experience.

The relax one is also the most updated one, as I think all MGS/NextGen Extra chilli’s run on older version of the game, from 2021 most of the time.

MGS is Extra chilli that’s running on Micro Gaming servers, NextGen same thing different server.

Might just be confirmation bias but I’ve had most of my big wins on NextGen Extra Chilli. Relax has given most base game bonuses and base game hits, but the gambles fail incredibly often, more so than on the others for me, and MGS has essentially been the same as NextGen for me, albeit a bit worse.

And I’ve played all of them for almost the same amount of time / spins.

Edit: Just realized you were talking about Bonanza. Well same thing applies there, minus the bonus buy / gamble

 

[ShadyFei]

Nextgen and MGS are the platforms the game is run on.

To find out go to the help tab and scroll back one or two places.

Allegedly they are all the same(according to BTG) but we know this to be horse shit as sky via the platform openbet was different to all the others.

They also run at very different gameplay speeds.

Overall you’ll get fucked by them all at some point!!!!!

Thanks. But what kind of fucked? I might like to get fucked slowly. Are there pros and cons of each platform and how they fuck you?

 

[pinnit2014]

Having played all the versions, repeatedly to the point of insanity: i don't think it really matters. Though i do tend to agree with one of the posts above: the NextGen has, in the main thrown, out the bigger base game hits (2000x-5500x) but been probably the worst GOLD bonus's - more frequency but more shit. MGS - less frequent but better X wins in the Gold. So, pick your poison. Still dying at the end of it

You probably end up in the same position when all is said and done.

 

[mcgameboy]

It's the same,you just have to spell No 'Ell.

It's actually going to be YULE.

AS in "YULE be sorry you ever chose to play this pile of hot garbage".....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

You probably end up in the same position when all is said and done.

Well since the RTP is identical, yes, you will.

I'm still not entirely convinced by the notion that there are multiple versions of Bonanza out there, I mean, why go to the hassle of maintaining several versions of the same game that all run to the same RTP?

Still, as someone who never really played the game that much back in the day, and who hasn't played it at all for two years or more now, I'll defer to those who are more qualified than me to comment.

At the end of the day if it makes RTP then it's not doing anything wrong, certainly from a legal perspective.

Why folks want to inflict a game on themselves that has an average feature frequency of 1/460 (or whatever batshit number it is) I have no idea, but each to their own

 

[dunover]

Joe Lycett quits Bonanza play and finds new way of making his money last longer:

 

[hogexd]

Well since the RTP is identical, yes, you will.

I'm still not entirely convinced by the notion that there are multiple versions of Bonanza out there, I mean, why go to the hassle of maintaining several versions of the same game that all run to the same RTP?

Still, as someone who never really played the game that much back in the day, and who hasn't played it at all for two years or more now, I'll defer to those who are more qualified than me to comment.

At the end of the day if it makes RTP then it's not doing anything wrong, certainly from a legal perspective.

Why folks want to inflict a game on themselves that has an average feature frequency of 1/460 (or whatever batshit number it is) I have no idea, but each to their own

I don’t know why, but there definitely are various versions running simultaneously across different casinos. For example EVO, MGS, NextGen and Relax that I know of. Some are updated regularly, others are from 2021 etc. I have no idea why

 

[pinnit2014]

if you play the various versions long enough, whilst they may hit RTP (for what that's worth, over the same value of the UK's current debt), you will, i think notice that some platforms' base game: bonus round, is markedly different. Why host on so many different platforms anyhow: is it jurisdiction reasons?

 

[Greigssy]

Definitely different versions of BTG slots at a Crypto site I play

I don't know which servers these are off of but considering they only have a handful then it may be MGS or even an EVO server.
The help file is here for those that can maybe work out whose version this is
static.egcdn.com/frontend/btg/bonanza/help/9bafe72c/evo/Bonanza-Help-EN.html

As for the loading screen, we know who runs the show now with size of that logo.

All have bonus buys available and at some interesting costs, DHV seems reasonable price tbh.

Here in the UK we are getting left behind with the shite versions it seems.

 

[hogexd]

Definitely different versions of BTG slots at a Crypto site I play

I don't know which servers these are off of but considering they only have a handful then it may be MGS or even an EVO server.
The help file is here for those that can maybe work out whose version this is
static.egcdn.com/frontend/btg/bonanza/help/9bafe72c/evo/Bonanza-Help-EN.html

As for the loading screen, we know who runs the show now with size of that logo.

All have bonus buys available and at some interesting costs, DHV seems reasonable price tbh.

Here in the UK we are getting left behind with the shite versions it seems.

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You can check which version it is running on by opening the hamburger menu icon (three bars) and going to the last page of the HELP section.

While we’re on this topic of Bonanza versions and updates, can anyone here reasonably explain why they would still continue to consistently update a slot that was released in 2016??

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

20 free spins on millionaire for 150X????

Jeez they really rate that amount of spins don’t they!!

Do you get the gamble chance after purchase?

 

[justdoit]

20 free spins on millionaire for 150X????

Jeez they really rate that amount of spins don’t they!!

Do you get the gamble chance after purchase?

yes you get chance to gamble, same price is on that new vegas mw game

 

[hogexd]

~60x on base game and 300x on base game too. Not a single bonus today tho

 

[dunover]

~60x on base game and 300x on base game too. Not a single bonus today tho

But don't forget 300x on the base game is equivalent to getting 10 bonuses.

 

[StuLawre]

Honestly, Dazza...I owe you a pint. I used to play Bonanza now and again but listening to your vids at work gave me the bug to play it a bit more. Slots are running hot for me at the mo, but I've cashed out over 10k since that 7412x hit on Bonanza alone. Was playing earlier, usual £100, £1 spins. Feature dropped and paid £120. So did £2 spins for a bit. Just as I got near £200 balance I got a +5 scatter...not had one of those for years....and it paid fuck all. 16 spins to give £100 or so. Last spin gave near on a full screen of Jacks for the attached beauty...

 

[dunover]

Honestly, Dazza...I owe you a pint. I used to play Bonanza now and again but listening to your vids at work gave me the bug to play it a bit more. Slots are running hot for me at the mo, but I've cashed out over 10k since that 7412x hit on Bonanza alone. Was playing earlier, usual £100, £1 spins. Feature dropped and paid £120. So did £2 spins for a bit. Just as I got near £200 balance I got a +5 scatter...not had one of those for years....and it paid fuck all. 16 spins to give £100 or so. Last spin gave near on a full screen of Jacks for the attached beauty...

LOL...

"Fake! Impossible! No-one can be that lucky! You must be playing the Dazza version! Affiliate RTP! Never happens for me! I lost 2,342,871x stake this week without a single feature! (goes on for another 94 repetitive, petty, envious and boring whines...) "

Seriously, you and @interlog must be having one of those spawny mid-length runs right now, I have just been twatted 4x £200 with one 6.4x feature, totally the opposite for me right now. I have stopped for a while.

Enjoy the winnings, WTG!

P.S. I cannot say what will happen next, but I can absolutely guarantee you the only certain thing about luck is that it WILL change, especially on this bastard!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Bet their spawn won’t run for 18 months. Just a short term peak!!

Anyway, in light of my recent brains on hills they’ve kindly sent me a nice email…..

Yes that’s right as a result of my stupidity in failing to believe the game can actually continue to be that fucking awful. They’ve kindly decided that the responsible thing to do is continue to allow me deposit with their self imposed limit of 5 bag a month. But not allow me to take part in either the bonus drop or the scratch of the day!! Well done 888/Billy Hills and fuck you.

I’ll take my £3.2k profit which probably would have been 10k if it hadn’t been for Bonanza and never play there again. Strangely tho I’m still getting the epic odds and have still not had betting restrictions enforced which is where all the profit has come from. I wonder how long it will take them to cut that off when they realise I’m no longer playing slots there.

 

[mack341]

Bet their spawn won’t run for 18 months. Just a short term peak!!

Anyway, in light of my recent brains on hills they’ve kindly sent me a nice email…..

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Yes that’s right as a result of my stupidity in failing to believe the game can actually continue to be that fucking awful. They’ve kindly decided that the responsible thing to do is continue to allow me deposit with their self imposed limit of 5 bag a month. But not allow me to take part in either the bonus drop or the scratch of the day!! Well done 888/Billy Hills and fuck you.

I’ll take my £3.2k profit which probably would have been 10k if it hadn’t been for Bonanza and never play there again. Strangely tho I’m still getting the epic odds and have still not had betting restrictions enforced which is where all the profit has come from. I wonder how long it will take them to cut that off when they realise I’m no longer playing slots there.

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They recently cut my access to the slots promotions [if you can call them that], something like 'these are not available on your account' then I lost a fair bit and the promotions page was back minus their coin drop game.

I did get most of my recent losses back a week later, but also got ripped by a slot game in their bingo section called 'stampede'... f**k me that was brutal, from a games maker called 'eyecon' very apt name in my experience!

I think on the slots side of the business WH are having a bad time compared to previous years, and within 12 months the site will be redesigned, maybe with better rtp as well. [edit: if they're that hard up, that giving away 5 x 10p spins needs rationing]

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yeah apart from the bonus drop and the odd 5 free spins on 10p their promos are non existent anyway. They were among the best before 888 took over tbf. I only really played bonanza, Horus Megaways and Tyrant king MW’s anyway, due their terrible RTP’s.

Like sky when they imposed a loss limit on me of just a ton, they won’t be seeing another coin off me on the casino front.

Pretty much just bet 365 left for me now on the gaming front. Altho coral and lads are running prags at top rtp so that’s another option for me to play those games.

 

[cncas2123]

I have no idea how anyone wins on this, more of the usual shite and I cant remember the last time I got near x 100 on a bonus.

 

[pinnit2014]

They recently cut my access to the slots promotions [if you can call them that], something like 'these are not available on your account' then I lost a fair bit and the promotions page was back minus their coin drop game.

I did get most of my recent losses back a week later, but also got ripped by a slot game in their bingo section called 'stampede'... f**k me that was brutal, from a games maker called 'eyecon' very apt name in my experience!

I think on the slots side of the business WH are having a bad time compared to previous years, and within 12 months the site will be redesigned, maybe with better rtp as well. [edit: if they're that hard up, that giving away 5 x 10p spins needs rationing]

Whilst they may be a 'reputable' UK bookie, they are IMO, a crap casino. From their overly muddled site, to crap casino promotions and laggy games, i gave up on them

 

[TheSchwad]

This game is irreparably broken, the past 2 days it has absolutely ecplised my previous (unwanted) record of spins without a bonus.

8,095 spins, four deposits (thankfully all with 50% bonus) across 2 days and the game will not bonus. I got one yesterday after about 450 spins that paid bloody awful and now it refuses to give another. Surely it has to make up for this and start thowing them in once the seal is broken. If the proported 500 spin bonus frequnecy is true then surely it owes me plenty.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

If I had a £ for every time I thought that!!!

That is shocking tho. Hope it does something.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Whatever they've done on the new update they've again chipped it further it's just impossible to bonus its appalling
On all versions. Absolute scum

 

[Jono777]

Whatever they've done on the new update they've again chipped it further it's just impossible to bonus its appalling
On all versions. Absolute scum

Increased the size of their strap on and ran out of lube, make us feel the pain even more

 

[dunover]

This game is irreparably broken, the past 2 days it has absolutely ecplised my previous (unwanted) record of spins without a bonus.

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8,095 spins, four deposits (thankfully all with 50% bonus) across 2 days and the game will not bonus. I got one yesterday after about 450 spins that paid bloody awful and now it refuses to give another. Surely it has to make up for this and start thowing them in once the seal is broken. If the proported 500 spin bonus frequnecy is true then surely it owes me plenty.

WTF?? That is the first VERIFIED instance I've seen of people who usually say "Oh, I had 4000 spins and no feature blaha blah..." I have gone over 2500 (counted) without one, so say I did that twice consecutively that would be 2 features in over 5k spins. But one in 8.1k??? That is unbelievably bad. I recall 13 consecutive deposits at Jackpot Joy without one, but I didn't count the total spins and they were £50 deposits playing 40-60p so assuming 300 spin average that would have been just shy of 4k spins, only half as bad as yours.

I think that serves as a reminder of what the variance of Bonanza is capable of, it can go on extended periods of utter shiteness then all of a sudden you'll get a session where they drop in like confetti and keep on doing so day after day. I hope that's the case for you - with Jackpot Joy in my case I SE'd before I ever got to the point of luck changing as I was so pissed off with it. It's also noticeable your RTP is pretty bang on the base game proportion of 76% so with 20% for the feature and no features landed it strikes a chord.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

It's also noticeable your RTP is pretty bang on the base game proportion of 76% so with 20% for the feature and no features landed it strikes a chord.

But if it's been changed how is that possible

8000 spins without a feature must be at the outer edge of what it's statistically capable of. With a 1/460 feature frequency, to go 8096 spins without one is 17.6x the average, I'd always considered a run of 10x the average to be very bad.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It’s always been capable of such filth. 2 years ago and 5 years ago.

Some avoided it some didn’t.

 

[mack341]

I had 8000 [must've been slightly more] consecutive spins at ladbrokes, with no break or reload of the game, and no bonus. I couldn't believe it at the time and in the end it spurned me on out of disbelief and determination to force it to give me one [and it was a shiter as well if memory serves me].

The following day it dropped in two +5's in short time [again at ladbrokes].

 

[dunover]

But if it's been changed how is that possible

8000 spins without a feature must be at the outer edge of what it's statistically capable of. With a 1/460 feature frequency, to go 8096 spins without one is 17.6x the average, I'd always considered a run of 10x the average to be very bad.

Agreed, it seems to be a statistical anomaly, I have never got past half that amount of spins without a feature in 6 years - this guy has been incredibly unlucky.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes you have to hope the compensation kicks in eventually at some point.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Seriously though, if this game has been changed, what actually is it that's been changed?

RTP is the same as it's always been, no change there.

By all accounts feature frequency is the same at 1/460, the experiences that continue to be reported in this thread back that up.

TheSchwad's numbers above are very instructive, 8000 spins isn't normally enough of a sample to draw a conclusion for anything on a slot, but 8000 spins without a feature, especially on a base game as grindy as Bonanza, does actually give us a decent number, and it's landed bang on the base game RTP it's always had.

This means that bonus round RTP remains the same as well, as we know the overall RTP hasn't changed.

All that being the case, what's left? They could have changed the volatility of the base game and/or the bonus round, but what's the point of that? It doesn't achieve anything, and we continue to get reports in this thread of it still being able to deliver long grindy sessions from relatively small deposits.

 

[justdoit]

new pushgaming Retro Tapes I played I am sure he can beat Bonanza without bonus and very small win on game play, you can easy do 10k spins without bonus,

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

You’re confusing 1 or 2 people saying it’s been changed with that of a global opinion.

As I said it’s always had the ability to behave like this. Some people will have managed to avoid it. Others won’t have been so lucky. Everybody comes on and moans when they get shafted and I’m certainly no different, but that doesn’t mean the game has been changed. However it’s examples like the above (1 feature in 8.5k spins) that really make you realise the game is a shit show compared to other slots that DO produce far better value for money.

In fresh news after my hills mauling I tried 365 yesterday. The MSG speed fest.

£250 wiped out on 40/60p but I did manage 3 features. 2 were both under 50x the other slightly above.

A revisit this morning and 100x stake deposit wiped out in 13 minutes and 7 seconds.

Now that my friends is value.

I was close to a grand up over a couple of weeks on football and horses along with a fortunate hit on another game. Bonanza has munched the lot on small stakes and has been an absolute disgrace. A reminder to myself of why I ditched depositing with my ‘own’ money.

Long love the Pragmatics!! See the light people!!!

Better value to be had!!!

However I would still draw the line playing the bore fest that you enjoy playing over at 3 dice!

Congrats by the way choppers for not mentioning them in 2 consecutive posts!!! Is that a record??

 

[pinnit2014]

Played it with money for the last few sessions: it gave a 500 and 600x in the first session. Knew what was coming next, but with insanity i just continued: went 4 deposits over the next few session with hardly a L, let alone D - wiped out the 500x win so still up but tbf, it's always been like that IMO, even back to the glory days of 2017/18

Horse for courses though, i see Prags being bigged up? I'm 1500 spins in DH MW's without a bonus and more down on them than BTG. Sometimes providers take a liking to your unique ID

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yeah of course!! They’re all as bad or as good as each other!!

I had a cracking run on them tbf, but it’s come to an end.

Funnily enough DH MW’s was one that never really impressed me that much. Very difficult to bonus altho the base could drop in the odd decent hit. Easily go few hundred spins without even seeing a paw!! Let alone 2 or 3.

At least when you get the tease it has a fair chance of landing.