@bigtimegaming can we increase stake limit on bonanza? why only 20

[Kroffe]

we are all addiction to slots games no matter what the bet is 0.20 or 100,as soonest we have spare money we will deposit and play,all of us lost big time and win big time but we still play it,you see kids how much they spend on Fifa game they are addiction too,and no one is doing anything about it,they spend a lot $$$ buying stupid virtual football players,BTG is doing advertisement by posting big wins only,making as think we can all hit big and win 200k,end of the day is all about money,yes some can't control it slot addiction is same as you sad drugs and alcohol

So do you agree that it is not very responsible to advertise gambling with videos where you make all or nothing gambles with a years salary worth of money.
there are people who get tempted by those things.
It looks so easy, right?
A years salary won with 3-4 clicks on the mouse.

Thing is that most people cant afford to lose 50k in an hour, like the bandit does every now and then.
That kind of loss could very well ruin someones life.

And you are comparing the 200k win that btg has on their channel with bandits play?
Its a €40 spin on the btg video, a €32 000 spin/click on bandits.
Not really the same thing.

 

[GameRoom]

So do you agree that it is not very responsible to advertise gambling with videos where you make all or nothing gambles with a years salary worth of money.
there are people who get tempted by those things.
It looks so easy, right?
A years salary won with 3-4 clicks on the mouse.

Thing is that most people cant afford to lose 50k in an hour, like the bandit does every now and then.
That kind of loss could very well ruin someones life.

And you are comparing the 200k win that btg has on their channel with bandits play?
Its a €40 spin on the btg video, a €32 000 spin/click on bandits.
Not really the same thing.

even £10 a spin for low bet player are big bets,if BTG advertising bet on £10 you could win 200k,way they don't advertise how much we could lose,but they show only wins?what i am saying slots are on 4 category low bets play medium players high bets players and fake players,are Government know gambling on big bets can change are life for better or worst,and they still let game providers to let as bet £50 up to £100,If Government let's do it sure 10% of us we will fk up sometimes and think we can win big if we bet big,players like bandit they play that way they gamble all their lives on big bets for sure out their are high stake players love to watch Bandit play,but same time they dont like to watch low bets streams

 

[Guntis]

I start gambling with out see videos on youtube or streams,what I am saying Bandit show his lose and his wins he win 50k he lost over 80k ye he redoposit and won again is his way of gambling,go check others streams they only show wins,look at roshid he gambe 50 a spin and he has over 15k watch him every night,why don't you go report roshid? we are adults all,gambelin is like coronavirus can't control it some ppl have millions on their bank account for tham 10k or 50k has no value if they lose or win,report btg also for advertising big wins on their youtube

Don't mix that Roshid, as you say, in here...
Go check other streamers? I will rather check and watch "lingerie try on" all day or live streams on how people are digging potatoes out of the ground...

Of course, they are free to do anything they like with their own or a casino's money but my point is that such videos like Bandits should not be available in public at all! As I said previously, he can upload his videos on his website and let his fans to enjoy them there.

 

[goatwack]

Sorry but there's nothing remotely relatable to a guy losing 50 or 100K in an afternoon.

And yes I'm sure it's all relative, we're all adults etc etc

Problem is most of these 'streamer entertainment personas' desensitize their viewers into normalizing big bets. Watch enough of that shite and I'll not only think £10 bets are normal (they're not) but that the earth IS flat, Elvis passed by my window and that Bridgitte Bardot is propositioning me through the TV

Look at the OP! 500 Euro bets!!

Not saying streamers can't peddle their high-stakes wares. But if one were to look at it objectively they'd only appeal to a tiny minority of gamblers, and most of them would rather live it up in a Monte Carlo Casino than watch some guy with a hat do a dance after winning 1K on Scruffy Duck

 

[pinnit2014]

Got Gold on a quid, just as i completed wagering on Calzone

8x

On 100 quid?

Doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[goatwack]

Well, washing machines do live longer with it!

Oh no sorry that's Calgon

 

[GameRoom]

Don't mix that Roshid, as you say, in here...
Go check other streamers? I will rather check and watch "lingerie try on" all day or live streams on how people are digging potatoes out of the ground...

Of course, they are free to do anything they like with their own or a casino's money but my point is that such videos like Bandits should not be available in public at all! As I said previously, he can upload his videos on his website and let his fans to enjoy them there.

maybe you like more to watch Roshit

 

[myke35]

Yeah he seems to have increased his uploads quite alot.
I know ive been whining about it, and i wont anymore, but im not crazy right?

He's done one every day so far this week. It is quite rare that.

 

[Guntis]

maybe you like more to watch Roshit

I have no preference who to watch, they all (the most) are the same Roshit

 

[myke35]

Pls delete. Wrong thread.

 

[snorky510238]

Whilst we are on the theme I personally think stakes make a difference to the gameplay you get. For a start let’s forget even considering anything about slots is random. We are all grown ups so we can throw that fallacy out of window.

I personally think on higher stakes the result is picked from a different pool of possibilities. It has to be to make games playable at those stakes and retain customers which is the main objective.

I have read endless posts on the Bonanza thread where people have gone 1,500 spins without a bonus. In these scenarios you can lose enough at min stake but can you imagine someone playing £20 a spin hitting a bad run.

Yes they will still lose long term but the blow will be softened and their results will come from a pool where the parameters are not so extreme. They will not have severely harsh sessions available to the normal but neither will they have the same chance of hitting x1,000 as a normal player.

Do we really think Casinos take games on not knowing what the potential of the slot is hence knowing their max liability? Did bookmakers agree to have 4 FOBTS installed in each shop where players could play £100 a spin on roulette and potentially ruin that shops profit for a year due to one player having a lucky day?

Of course they don’t. They are given a guarantee from day one. I have to laugh to myself when I read posts that say “in 50 billion spins during testing the game did a x67,000” You don’t need to do all those spins to find out what a slot is capable off. The guy who programmed bloody knows!

Would a Casino bother taking games like DOA 2 if they thought it could bankrupt them? Of course they wouldn’t, they would just do without it. The first thing you have to know as the owner of any gambling establishment is what your max liability is that’s just business sense and on games like DOA 2 where we know it can deliver x100,000 the casino will have the max stake set at a liability they are happy to pay out. Would Netent even bother going to the trouble of creating a game that could ruin them and Casinos? The answer is obvious we are the ones who take all the risks and do the gambling not them!

P.S. This post has not been made due to a bad slotting session or as the result of a heavy loss of cash. It’s just a view most people don’t seem to consider and if it sounds like I am preaching from the rooftops it’s because I am. It’s the only way to get people to take note. Here endeth the first lesson.

 

[ShadyFei]

Don't mix that Roshid, as you say, in here...
Go check other streamers? I will rather check and watch "lingerie try on" all day or live streams on how people are digging potatoes out of the ground...

Why watch potato pickers when you can watch a live stream of cute cats!

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[GameRoom]

I have no preference who to watch, they all (the most) are the same Roshit

dont make drama if you hate bandit and not his bets,they are over 100s streams they do high bets out their,I see streams they spend a lot of buying bonus on 1k 2k and 4k,and is streams out their they do even £100 a spin,if you personal dont like bandit just say it,and stop making drama about him

 

[Guntis]

Why watch potato pickers when you can watch a live stream of cute cats!

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Cats are cute and adorable as many would tell, but since my attitude to cats is neutral, I can't say that they are my passion.

But I have no doubts that a dog is my favourite animal and I would watch them playing on a live stream at any time of the day:



Buy the way,

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are quite cool as well—they are funny and absolutely harmless, better than Roshid and that another one who is considered as an idol among some...

 

[Halvor]

Of course they don’t. They are given a guarantee from day one. I have to laugh to myself when I read posts that say “in 50 billion spins during testing the game did a x67,000” You don’t need to do all those spins to find out what a slot is capable off. The guy who programmed bloody knows!

I won't even bother to address most of your post, as trancemonkey have covered it so many times by now.

However, you really can't use games with a set amount of max spins, set amount of multipliers and a capped maximum win as an example that every game have a pre set max win.

Many games have an uncapped potential, there is not a set amount of multipliers or free spins you can receive. In these games suppliers use an expected max exposure based on large quantities of simulated game rounds. That does not mean it can't hit bigger in freak instances of luck. After all it's based on maths.

And to save you the time, please don't bring up games that use scenarios and not reel based as a counter argument that it's always determined what's the max win.

 

[snorky510238]

Why can the max potential on a megaways slot not be worked out?

 

[Halvor]

How can you possibly work out the max potential of games where there's not a cap to re-triggers or multipliers?

I'd love to hear how you feel that's possible.

 

[snorky510238]

There will be something in the programme that caps retriggers the rest can be worked out with formulas.

 

[Guntis]

dont make drama if you hate bandit and not his bets,they are over 100s streams they do high bets out their,I see streams they spend a lot of buying bonus on 1k 2k and 4k,and is streams out their they do even £100 a spin,if you personal dont like bandit just say it,and stop making drama about him

Why you seem so obsessed with these streamers and trying to prove me something?
I don't hate anyone in this world and certainly not making any dramas here. TBH a week ago I never knew who that Bandit even is. I heard this name but never bothered to check it out since I'm not interested in casino streaming weather it's on real money or fake—my view and relation to this are indifferent, for me it's not entertaining and I don't see any benefit there.

So, I'm not biting my lips and watching somebody playing slots online, If I have a desire to gamble I deposit and play. There are a few informational channels regarding new slots, I watch them time after time and don't class them as streamers. This is different.

Also, no offence and don't take it to hearth if my previous posts regarding Bandit and my opinion on irresponsible gambling anyhow offended you.

 

[Halvor]

No there won't - even if we for the sake of it completely ignore the fact that the game would not be compliant and therefore not certified - this is not how reel games are built. It's based on the makeup of the reels.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

I must say, I think its extremely Irresponsible for any casino to offer such big stakes, why yes its up to the player how to use there money BUT there is simply no need to have £50 stakes for a single spin IMO, Its scary to think how fast a person could lose there money. 1% of people can afford to do such bets and to think they could lose £1000s of pounds on minutes is scary and doesnt sit well with me

 

[Kroffe]

I must say, I think its extremely Irresponsible for any casino to offer such big stakes, why yes its up to the player how to use there money BUT there is simply no need to have £50 stakes for a single spin IMO, Its scary to think how fast a person could lose there money. 1% of people can afford to do such bets and to think they could lose £1000s of pounds on minutes is scary and doesnt sit well with me

I dont really have a problem with high stakes being available.
There are plenty of people who can afford to throw away tens of thousands like its nothing.

My opinion is that those stakes should be allowed to exist, but should be locked until a sow has been completed to show that the player can afford to lose that kind of money.
More and more Sow request are popping up these days, from different sites, and by some strange coincidence its always when theres a withdrawal pending.
That practice should be scrapped.
Sow is there to protect the player, not for the casino to make a hassle out of withdrawals.
Meaning if a Sow is not done before allowing deposits+play, then they should not be allowed to do one during a withdrawal.

Ukgc,spelinspektionen etc need to step in and lay down the law on this sort of behaviour.
Make clear guidelines for the casinos to follow so we dont get what we have now, every casino making their own interpretation of how an sow shall be performed.

This was my serious post for this week, perhaps for two weeks.
Have a happy easter everyone.

 

[slotmaster]

OP is on crack.

/thread

 

[irish-ranger]

dont make drama if you hate bandit and not his bets,they are over 100s streams they do high bets out their,I see streams they spend a lot of buying bonus on 1k 2k and 4k,and is streams out their they do even £100 a spin,if you personal dont like bandit just say it,and stop making drama about him

Listen Groupie no body hates nobody but let’s be fucking realistic here if I made a video of me smoking 40 benson and hedges one after another would it be allowed?( Would if fuck)
If u made a video of me snuffing coke whilst playing bonanza would it be allowed (would it fuck)
If I made a video whilst playing 10ps on starburst and drinking a bottle of vodka would be be allowed??(would it fuck)
See where I’m going here ??

 

[Kroffe]

Listen Groupie no body hates nobody but let’s be fucking realistic here if I made a video of me smoking 40 benson and hedges one after another would it be allowed?( Would if fuck)
If u made a video of me snuffing coke whilst playing bonanza would it be allowed (would it fuck)
If I made a video whilst playing 10ps on starburst and drinking a bottle of vodka would be be allowed??(would it fuck)
See where I’m going here ??

All i see is someone trying to compete with my 9p doa stream with unreasonably high 10p spins on starburst.