Azzi Gambling Confirmed Fake

[goatwack]

Definitely a throwback, and at complete odds with the OTT shill streams we see normalized today. Back in the days when Twitch was still fairly new, hell, they even had Arts & Crafts streams on there and all manner of niche pastimes!

But even if comparatively tame by today's standard, I wouldn't have found £2000+ balances and £2 stakes that relatable to begin with, as I'm sure most slotters would've still been in the sub-£1 range. I'd have found that to be a tad opulent, even all those six years ago

 

[interlog]

But even if comparatively tame by today's standard, I wouldn't have found £2000+ balances and £2 stakes that relatable to begin with, as I'm sure most slotters would've still been in the sub-£1 range. I'd have found that to be a tad opulent, even all those six years ago

I think what he used to do is deposit plus get a bonus that he needed to wager. He dragged a £500 deposit (plus bonus) out for weeks playing it between £0.60 and £2.00 bets. This particular video he deposited on 11th September and was still playing with the same money on the 30th September going through the wagering. He somehow managed to get his starting balance of just under £1,000 up to £2,000 at that point in time.

Not comparable to a £1m deposit doing £5k spins at all. That is just ridiculous and unrealistic.

 

[interlog]

Agree to disagree.
Imo the guy streaming 40p spins and the guy streaming 1k spins are doing the same thing for the same reasons, peddling addiction to make money.
Sure we can put them in different tiers of bad, but they are all bad.

There is a big difference between doing 40p and 1k spins. Were the former risked his own money, the latter is risking fuck all.

And that is the difference between then and now.

 

[justdoit]

This is what it was like in the good old days:

I watch RockNRolla he never change he did high stake old days and his doing high stakes today, but only on youtube now

 

[interlog]

I watch RockNRolla he never change he did high stake old days and his doing high stakes today, but only on youtube now

He is OK.

The difference is that he is a proper real gambler. Not comparable at all to the like of the twat with the hat.

 

[Kroffe]

There is a big difference between doing 40p and 1k spins. Were the former risked his own money, the latter is risking fuck all.

And that is the difference between then and now.

But does it really matter to the viewer if the streamer is spending his own money or using an account funded by the casino?
If thats the issue would the 1k spins be ok if it was some random oil billionaire doing the streams and actually using his own money?

Its like saying bathtub streams featuring fake titties is somehow worse than the 'natural' and more realistic bathtub streams.
The issuse is not if the titties/money is real or not, the issue is what is being sold and where, and Twitch was a better site before titties&gambling became a part of it.

 

[interlog]

But does it really matter to the viewer if the streamer is spending his own money or using an account funded by the casino?
If thats the issue would the 1k spins be ok if it was some random oil billionaire doing the streams and actually using his own money?

Its like saying bathtub streams featuring fake titties is somehow worse than the 'natural' and more realistic bathtub streams.
The issuse is not if the titties/money is real or not, the issue is what is being sold and where, and Twitch was a better site before titties&gambling became a part of it.

That random billionaire would not stream his slot play on Twitch. I would even hazard a guess that those that can even afford to make a £1m deposit wouldn't watch the casino section on Twitch.

The casino section used to be real gamblers playing slots and making some money of affiliation. That all changed to the circus that it is now.

I am sure if is now like it was then, there wouldn't be any intervention by Twitch.

It is akin to fake bullshit advertising. You try to do that on TV and your advert will be pulled.

 

[interlog]

I watch RockNRolla he never change he did high stake old days and his doing high stakes today, but only on youtube now

Though I haven't watched him for a while, he never made big deposits. He made relatively small deposits and worked his balance up playing Blackjack and Roulette. Only when he had a big balance did he do those £15 spins.

 

[Kroffe]

That random billionaire would not stream his slot play on Twitch. I would even hazard a guess that those that can even afford to make a £1m deposit wouldn't watch the casino section on Twitch.

The casino section used to be real gamblers playing slots and making some money of affiliation. That all changed to the circus that it is now.

I am sure if is now like it was then, there wouldn't be any intervention by Twitch.

It is akin to fake bullshit advertising. You try to do that on TV and your advert will be pulled.

Thats why i said we would have to agree to disagree, we dont view gambling streams the same way.
For me the so called 'real gamblers' and the 'todays circus' gamblers are all doing the same thing for the same reasons, advertising gambling to make money.
Their approach may be different, but the goal is the same now as it was back then.

 

[aceking123]

Sadly there's to many none real gamblers.
There's a couple I still like to catch upnkn rocknrolla & the gentleman guy, he's a low roller but least you get no bull with thise two, I also like craig slots. But again it's preferred people. Mega stakes is just bullshit.

It also seems not viable for UK streamers, hence to why so many are trying to get over to Ireland.

 

[idislikeNLC]

Thats why i said we would have to agree to disagree, we dont view gambling streams the same way.
For me the so called 'real gamblers' and the 'todays circus' gamblers are all doing the same thing for the same reasons, advertising gambling to make money.
Their approach may be different, but the goal is the same now as it was back then.

The streamers before that played with real money were promoting losing just as much as they were promoting winning. Like interlog said, at the end of the day it's just inviting people to watch you do something. There are plenty of harmful and addicting things that there are videos and streams of, it's up to the viewer to decide to watch.

The difference between real money and fake money is massive. Playing with fake money and acting like it's real is done for no other purpose than to advertise and promote gambling. They play at ridiculous stakes on crazy variance games, basically promoting the most extreme side of gambling. There is a reason they always insist that their balance is "raw" and real, because it wouldn't be nearly as effective as if people knew it was fake.

Someone playing with real money at reasonable stakes shows a much more real side of gambling, and for the most part streaming money is an added benefit, not the only reason they play/stream. A person playing with real money can't do $80,000 spins on Double Rainbow for 24 hours straight and do another stream. They have to gamble responsibly or they simply won't have anything to stream. If they really go full degen and lose everything on stream, I think it would make for some amazing anti-gambling content.

 

[justdoit]

Though I haven't watched him for a while, he never made big deposits. He made relatively small deposits and worked his balance up playing Blackjack and Roulette. Only when he had a big balance did he do those £15 spins.

yep he had big win last week on Roulette crazy, his only one show deposit and cashout
he had crazy win on lil devil last year £140k

 

[Kroffe]

The streamers before that played with real money were promoting losing just as much as they were promoting winning. Like interlog said, at the end of the day it's just inviting people to watch you do something. There are plenty of harmful and addicting things that there are videos and streams of, it's up to the viewer to decide to watch.

The difference between real money and fake money is massive. Playing with fake money and acting like it's real is done for no other purpose than to advertise and promote gambling. They play at ridiculous stakes on crazy variance games, basically promoting the most extreme side of gambling. There is a reason they always insist that their balance is "raw" and real, because it wouldn't be nearly as effective as if people knew it was fake.

Someone playing with real money at reasonable stakes shows a much more real side of gambling, and for the most part streaming money is an added benefit, not the only reason they play/stream. A person playing with real money can't do $80,000 spins on Double Rainbow for 24 hours straight and do another stream. They have to gamble responsibly or they simply won't have anything to stream. If they really go full degen and lose everything on stream, I think it would make for some amazing anti-gambling content.

Thats funny, because if it was just 'inviting people to watch you do something' and the money they made was just an added benefit then i assume all people that used to stream lower stakes play are still doing it.
If it stopped being fun to invite people to watch you gamble when the money stopped flowing in its pretty clear what the 'fun' part of inviting people was.

Im not saying the idiocy that goes on with todays gambling streams is showing a realistic view on gambling, im just saying they are doing it for the same reasons, its always been about the money.
Im not even sure i agree these megastakes used today are more damaging, its so 'out there' and not at all relatable or realistic.
Compare that to more realistic and much more relatable gambling being shown and i wouldnt be surprised if more people get hooked watching that.

People are free to think what they want, personally i think twitch was better before gambling made its way onto the platform, no matter if its realistic gambling or the clownshow-gambling we see today.

 

[goatwack]

And yet the high-stakes streamers continue their assault on the senses, as they rely on the visual spectacle of placing big bets for the simple reason that the resultant winnings appear life-changing.

To assume that the viewing audience can differentiate between real and fake funds is not guaranteed, as I'm sure many cannot, perhaps even those new to the whole thing. So their perception of £10/20/50 bets become somewhat muddled, if not normalized....

Though I'd imagine those versed in slots over years may recognize the folly of such undertakings, there'll also be many that see these 'fully self-aware' Hollywood streamers and their mountainous bets and want to emulate that, even if just to put an end to the slot grind they've become accustomed to. Who doesn't want a life-changing win? After all, if the streamer manages it with such regularity, why can't I? and so forth.

Probably the reason we don't see the 10p Thunderkick streams, and why streamers go for the ever-ridiculous, because through the visual bombardment one's likely to become desensitized to betting higher. After all, far better a signup loses £2000 in 20 minutes than £20 over several hours, no?

 

[interlog]

The problem was that those that still gambled with "normal" stakes lost audience to those playing with the fake money. It is no fun doing a stream that relies on interaction when you have nobody to interact with.

Add to that the fact that streaming slots is quite expensive and if you're on a losing streak you will have no choice but to reduce your play or stop altogether.

The fake 'sponsored by the casino with effectively play money' streamers don't have to worry about it. Unlimited play money to stream your slots with.

So, yes some of the old time slot streamers have disappeared from the scene, but is simply because of the reasons given above.

 

[Kroffe]

There are till people streaming 'normal' stakes on twitch.
They dont get nearly as many viewers as the clownshow streamers but if you are only 'inviting people to watch what you are doing' it wouldnt really matter if you have 10, 100 or 1000s of viewers.

Anyone that wants to just 'invite people to watch what they are doing' can still do that, and there will be people watching, just not enough to make any real money out of it.
But if you were going to gamble anyway and just see viewers and money as an 'added benefit' then it wouldnt matter that you dont get as many viewers now.

Or we can keep pretending that todays evil streamers are only doing it for the money while the streamers back in the day used to stream because of their love of slots and the warm feeling they got inside when sharing it with others.
Totally not because they wanted people to sponsor their gambling, and they totally didnt stop streaming because the money went away.



Sorry, i pressed the 'Harry' button by mistake.

 

[goatwack]

And that's why the audience doesn't watch it for the love of slotting, and become engrossed in watching someone betting 'high stakes for high rewards'.

Because if truly done for showmanship and advertizing the casino, then you'd think the bets stayed somewhere in the realm of reality, for punters to try and copy. And if Real or Demo play 'doesn't really matter', then why exhibit these performances using currencies such as £s, when simple Credits will suffice

 

[Kroffe]

And that's why the audience doesn't watch it for the love of slotting, and become engrossed in watching someone betting 'high stakes for high rewards'.

Because if truly done for showmanship and advertizing the casino, then you'd think the bets stayed somewhere in the realm of reality, for punters to try and copy. And if Real or Demo play 'doesn't really matter', then why exhibit these performances using currencies such as £s, when simple Credits will suffice

There is only one true streamer among all the fakes.
The hero that saved slot-streaming.

 

[goatwack]

Weird Al Yankovic, we salute you

 

[interlog]

Or we can keep pretending that todays evil streamers are only doing it for the money while the streamers back in the day used to stream because of their love of slots and the warm feeling they got inside when sharing it with others.

Well strangely enough, yet you had those. I was one of them unless you're implying that I (and others) did it for the money The little revenue I got from affiliation paid for some of the deposits that I made. So if I didn't have a well paid job there would be no food on the table. If there was no money for streaming then there would be no stream.

How difficult is that to understand or perhaps I am not making myself clear.

 

[Kroffe]

Well strangely enough, yet you had those. I was one of them unless you're implying that I (and others) did it for the money The little revenue I got from affiliation paid for some of the deposits that I made. So if I didn't have a well paid job there would be no food on the table. If there was no money for streaming then there would be no stream.

Like i said there are still people streaming lower stakes slotting, some only to 5-10 viewers.
You can still get that warm feeling from sharing your love of slotting with people, but wont get as many free deposits this time around because of fewer viewers.
But hey, it was never about the money so that shouldnt matter one bit...right?

I agree with the part of your post that i made bold, without the money involved in streaming there would be no streams.
This is as true now as it was back then.




Feel free to start streaming again and prove me wrong.

 

[interlog]

Like i said there are still people streaming lower stakes slotting, some only to 5-10 viewers.
You can still get that warm feeling from sharing your love of slotting with people, but wont get as many free deposits this time around because of fewer viewers.
But hey, it was never about the money so that shouldnt matter one bit...right?

I agree with the part of your post that i made bold, without the money involved in streaming there would be no streams.
This is as true now as it was back then.




Feel free to start streaming again and prove me wrong.

No money, as in no funds to start the gambling stream in the first place.

Are you deliberately not understanding the point I am making.

And why would I start streaming again? I stopped playing slots a long time ago simply because it is no longer fun just as many others on this forum have stopped playing.

Now if I was that streamer you are implying I was, I would still be streaming and raking the money in.

I think I am done with this forum now, too many wind up merchants about.

 

[Kroffe]

No money, as in no funds to start the gambling stream in the first place.

Are you deliberately not understanding the point I am making.

And why would I start streaming again? I stopped playing slots a long time ago simply because it is no longer fun just as many others on this forum have stopped playing.

Now if I was that streamer you are implying I was, I would still be streaming and raking the money in.

I think I am done with this forum now, too many wind up merchants about.

No, if you were the kind of streamer im implying you were you would have stopped streaming when it stopped bringing in money, which is what you and a lot of other people did.
People streaming because they just want to share their love of slotting with people wouldnt care if they had 1 or 10 or 10 000 viewers, people streaming because of the money involved would.

And i have not been implying it, i have said straight up that i think streamers today are in it for the same reason as the streamers from back in the day, and that reason is money.
Show me slot-streamers that are not doing any sort of affiliate business and ill start believing that there might be people out there doing it for other reasons than just money.

 

[Kroffe]

Also, thinking that slot streamers do what they do because of the money involved is not being a 'wind up merchant', its being a realist.
If i was a wind up merchant i would be Implying that people are streaming their slot play because of the warm feeling they get inside from sharing it with others.

 

[goatwack]

Did you see that ludicrous display last night? Problem with Arsenal is that they try to walk it in