But it was never meant as a personal attack against any particular streamer.
All ive been saying is that i think that the streamers today are streaming slots for the exact same reason as the people that streamed slots back in the day, because of the money involved.
You are trying to tell me that money was not part of the reason that you streamed yourself playing slots, but at the same time you went thru the trouble of becoming an affiliate so that you could get money from streaming.
I dont think anyone would stream their casino play if there was no money in it for them, same as i dont think anyone would make affiliate websites advertising casinos if there was no money in it for them.
And if someone tells me that they would do it even if there was no money in it for them, i would assume that they are lying.
Actually, stopping about 2-3 years ago, I used to spend hours a week making 'new slot demo videos' and posting them on here and my YT, up to 8 slots in a single video, the latest pre-releases. Never made a penny from them, no Google ads on them, nothing. There was a link to my aff. website in my channel but trust me, it got literally 3-4 clicks per video yet I still carried on. I used to get sent stuff like hardware and artwork, merchandise etc. by some developers but not unsolicited, they contacted me - the best one being a large FEDEX box from Play'n Go in Sweden with clothing and a new Razer Seiren microphone which I still use, not a cheap item!
But that is technically a different issue to 'streaming' which a word often misinterpreted. I (and people like Chopley and daveslotwinexcitment) are 'vloggers' and NOT streamers although I often get categorized wrongly as a streamer, which I never have been, despite a couple of approaches from (legit!) casinos in the past to become one. I missed the boat, it's now become big business but often for the wrong kind of casinos. I have spoken to and know a few legit streamers and the amounts you can make for one night are eye-watering. Which leads me to the big YT cull of 2019.
Before the 2019 cull where lots of YT channels were removed, including my old one where I posted all those preview slot videos and multi-slot real-play sessions, there wasn't the strict advertising rules and regs there are now, plus most (inlcuding myself) were taking advantage of the fact we could stick unlimited transactional links under any YT video. I found real-play gambling videos were far more lucrative than pre-release slot demo videos, got 10x the views. I once uploaded a single slot session video, 1 hr. long and got 67 new depositing players for ONE casino I mentioned in it, that I was playing at. Alas, in my more naive days, these were rev share players and I had no CPA payment unlike most streamers have - say I had a deal of 100 euros each, that's over 6k plus any rev share for ONE hour's video upload and with NO constant calls-to-action and overlaid sign-up banners that you get on live streams, so imagine how much a stream could have made with a CPA deal! Well, I don't need to imagine as I know one streamer who made 15k affiliate CPA money for a single night's stream lasting 3-4 hours and this one had nowhere near the subscribers some have nowadays, a small fraction. Although we know now that a big percentage of certain streamers' viewers and subs are now fake/purchased to hoodwink the casino into thinking they are more valuable channels. For 2-3 years my old channel, again a VLOGGER channel only, was highly lucrative without live streaming.
Post 2019, things are quite rightly highly regulated and the wild west days are long gone on YT, with no direct transctional links allowed, many affiliate programmes forbidding any YT marketing or brand mentioning at all. All you can do now is provide a link to your homepage, nothing more. If I had taken up live streaming, I would have been doing it for two reasons - the personal enjoyment of playing live and interacting, secondly the extra income I would have made on top as an affiliate. My real-play vlog videos were posted to earn money and occasionally show off a big win.
Going back to the preview demo videos I used to post every few days, these had no monetary value to me yet I made hundreds of them. Again, with hindsight, I didn't realize years ago that having instant access to pre-release demos was a major asset, a source of envy amongst the more avaricious competitive affiliates who mostly didn't have this facility - now look and you will see a few affiliate sites which boast first exposure to games and have spent years cajoling (and in one case I have documented proof of, blackmailing developers for first digs under threat of bad reviews otherwise or simply refusing to review them!) And there was dumb old me, with the golden egg in his pocket and never knowing it haha...
Going back to the present day, I never realized back in 2014-17 that affiliates, developers and casinos had their beady eye on my YT activities - why would I with a comparatively small channel with 4-5k subs? Since then, the slotting vlog & preview model has been taken up in corporate fashion by professional video makers and businesses like CG who have developed it beyond the home-made amateur format. But at least they are legit mostly.
After the YT cull of August 2019 along with increased regulation in gambling jurisdictions, the inevitable explosion occurred in Twitch, which with its lack of regulation and anarchic style became a back-up for the old YT streamers and a huge magnet for new opportunist fraudsters, charlatans and scammers, a fact futher compounded by Crapto Casinos who can avoid jurisdictional rules, take underage players, avoid taxes making huge profits: the latter and former are a deadly bad combination and this is why we see these threads.
I must agree generally (not regarding any specific individuals by the way!) that the whole world is generally driven by monetary gains, zilch else. I initially joined YT to make non-profit non-monetized slot preview videos to post on here, as a service to members, using my own time. I then realized I could make money and happily did so. Had I gone on to stream, I would have done it simply to make more money. No other reason, absolutely not being a narcissist nor a person requiring some sort of fame or notoriety. That's me though - having made plenty of videos for no money, I can see the other side too, where you could do it for enjoyment and if you make a few quid, that's all well.
But I have to be honest and state that in my view live slot streaming in the huge majority of cases only has one objective - profit, the more the merrier.
