Am I imagining this?!

[BeanParpington]

Ok so it might be foil hatting but I'm beginning to find that bonus rounds seem to occur a hell of a lot more frequently when I've taken a bonus and have wagering to play through?!

It literally happens every time I take a bonus, whatever slot I play I get a feature pretty quickly yet if I deposit without bonus funds I can't hit sod all!

I maybe imagining this but to say it's a little suspect is a bit of an understatement!

Does anyone else notice this or is it only me?

 

[goatwack]

I think that sometimes too. Bonus play on occasion is extremely loose, with features flying in from all angles. I do raise an eyebrow when this happens on games like DOA but of course I'll be sat there crossing my fingers and not complaining.

Many others also notice how wagering is going swimmingly right before completion, and then dies.

Of course there is no way of proving or disproving this theory, I'm only going on my own observations. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, who knows

But in answer to your question, I do feel as though bonus play is different, almost as if in 'free mode' and certainly at the beginning of wagering.

Whew, my tinfoil hat almost fell off when I typed that

 

[BeanParpington]

I think that sometimes too. Bonus play on occasion is extremely loose, with features flying in from all angles. I do raise an eyebrow when this happens on games like DOA but of course I'll be sat there crossing my fingers and not complaining.

Many others also notice how wagering is going swimmingly right before completion, and then dies.

Of course there is no way of proving or disproving this theory, I'm only going on my own observations. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, who knows

But in answer to your question, I do feel as though bonus play is different, almost as if in 'free mode' and certainly at the beginning of wagering.

Whew, my tinfoil hat almost fell off when I typed that

Haha I agree 100%! Of course I'm not moaning about the ease of hitting features on bonus play but sometimes I find myself thinking why the hell cant I get a run like this without the bloody wagering?!

I agree that once you complete about 80% of the wagering the wins vanish too haha

There's definitely something fishy going on....

 

[Adriana B]

Agreed. I always hit a big win at the beginning of the wagering and then all things go to hell. But when playing without a bonus I never get that big hit. I always thought there was something odd about that. Oh yeah -- fit me up with that tin foil hat -- size 6 please.

 

[BeanParpington]

Agreed. I always hit a big win at the beginning of the wagering and then all things go to hell. But when playing without a bonus I never get that big hit. I always thought there was something odd about that. Oh yeah -- fit me up with that tin foil hat -- size 6 please.

Haha funny how that happens isn't it! I'd say if I take a bonus at least 75% of the time I'll hit a feature almost straight away that pays 100x stake or more, yet if I deposit without a bonus I'm pretty much bust in 5 minutes with zero features and a few piddly wins!

I just think it happens far too often to be a coincidence

 

[goatwack]

*I just want to throw a disclaimer in there that the views expressed are those of Goatwack and not for the express purpose of placing horse heads at the end of my bed.

Already got loads, thankyou. Could Netent & co give me some advance warning as I still have to create some space.

Thanks in advance

 

[jackanory2279]

not to sound butt-hurt.. but 90% of my big wins have came at a time when ive got 3k in wagering to do..

i dont actually win anythin relevant without a bonus,

 

[chiya]

Doesn't really happen to me .. I do remember some occasions of winning big literally at the start of wagering and then ending up busting but I don't think that means I'm getting more bonuses or anything..

However .. Recently as I've participated in the VS freeroll battles I've found myself getting features A LOT more often on games in which I NEVER get the features when I play with my own money OR bonus money. I could play 500 rounds on Elements and never score that stupid feature, but on the Element freeroll the other day I think I got 5 features in the 100 spins .. They paid out quite meh, but still.

Coincidence? I think not . (Though it probably is).

 

[BeanParpington]

It's definitely a bit suspect isn't it....

Last night I deposited without a bonus and was bust in a few minutes without any features or decent wins again, then played at another casino and took a deposit bonus and almost straight away went on a run of hitting features?!!

Just sat there thinking oh what a surprise! Here we bloody go again!

 

[Jono777]

Each slots TRTP has a built in 'Check if they are playing with a bonus' feature.

This is designed (and judging by this thread, working) to throw out its best returns once this bonus is detected.

When no bonus is detected (or WR is below £100 to go) this then kicks in the -4% and slots go into gobble you up mode.

I thought everyone knew that

 

[goatwack]

It's definitely a bit suspect isn't it....

Last night I deposited without a bonus and was bust in a few minutes without any features or decent wins again, then played at another casino and took a deposit bonus and almost straight away went on a run of hitting features?!!

Just sat there thinking oh what a surprise! Here we bloody go again!

There's always the 'new casino plays better' theory, which is also noticeable. Play your favourite delights at the same casino with or without a bonus, but play at a new casino and the games play 'rather differently', at least for the first session.

Pretty much every game starts well, which is suspect enough, and the bonuses also kick in very early. One thing I've observed too.

Bear in mind that we're going into Gold Tinfoil territory now!

 

[Harry_BKK]

Had the case just last night on TSII

-120 + 120 bonus,
- wagering done only with the bonus part, 30X B
- the cash part disappeared in no time, so 3600 to wager,
- never busted out no matter what bet size i was playing
- 5 x up and down between about 20-40$ --> 250,
- 75% completed, yet again around 250, go on higher bets for a little longer, 3 x bonus rounds within 50 spins,
- balance at 750$ with 700 left to wager
- ended wagering at 450, RTP for the last 200 spins appr. 55%

So the cash part disappears super quickly, bonus part i can keep up no problem, the soon i am close to get to 100% wagering the slot drops dead again.....hmmmm, tin foil hat moment there for sure

 

[goatwack]

Had the case just last night TSII

-120 + 120 bonus,
- wagering done only with the bonus part, 30X B
- the cash part disappeared in no time, so 3600 to wager,
- never busted out no matter what bet size i was playing
- 5 x up and down between about 20-40$ --> 250,
- 75% completed, yet again around 250, go on higher bets for a little longer, 3 x bonus rounds within 50 spins,
- balance at 750$ with 700 left to wager
- ended wagering at 450, RTP for the last 200 spins appr. 55%

So the cash part disappears super quickly, bonus part i can keep up no problem, the soon i am close to get to 100% wagering the slot drops dead again.....hmmmm, tin foil hat moment there for sure

You weren't wearing the correct attire. It's gold for new casinos, aluminium for everyday use. Gold is reserved for veterans and indicates many a botched session.

The ultimate hat can only be reached by a select few, for its powers shield from all evil. It's the titanium hat, and I'm probably only another two bad sessions away from getting it!

 

[weesie]

I feel much the same way as you guys....

The main reason I don't take a deposit bonus............ knowing odds are I will NEVER

make wagering.


Also........... tin-foil hat theories.......... this thread has "dunovers'" name all over it!!

The CM resident tin-foil hat specialist!

 

[goatwack]

I feel much the same way as you guys....

The main reason I don't take a deposit bonus............ knowing odds are I will NEVER

make wagering.


Also........... tin-foil hat theories.......... this thread has "dunovers'" name all over it!!

The CM resident tin-foil hat specialist!

Indeed. Dunover is the Tinfoil Grand Maester. Last I heard he was re-stocking on tinfoil because of the Rhino.

If anyone sees a Rhino on the loose with tinfoil around its horn, please notify CM immediately :xxx

 

[Jono777]

You weren't wearing the correct attire. It's gold for new casinos, aluminium for everyday use. Gold is reserved for veterans and indicates many a botched session.

The ultimate hat can only be reached by a select few, for its powers shield from all evil. It's the titanium hat, and I'm probably only another two bad sessions away from getting it!

Save any 'needy' members I have a few of these, You're more than welcome to take them off my hands as I've invested in the latest full nuclear proof, all signing/dancing outfit.

Maybe a little draughty around the rear end since I discovered that darn Rhino!

 

[xxshepxx]

Dont dare speak out about ACTUAL experiences, you will get told its all tin foil had conspiracies.

No bonus....800 spins on Jurassic Park @ 90p a spin without a feature,....on more than one occasion in a row.

Very very regularly over 400spins for a feature on any microgaming slot

600 spins on Gonzos Quest @ £1 a spin without a bonus.

Over 1000spins on DOA @ 27p a spin before a 5xstake bonus.

You would think thats a worst highlights of a gambling year.... but thats just the norm and thats in the past 2 weeks.

Things have 100% gotten worse, I very rarely mention it as it gets the usual replies (which this will too) I used to enjoy online gaming. But there isnt anything to enjoy anymore, games with crazy low RTP's never finding out how a Casino's WD process is because nobody wins enough to try it.

Think I'm done with online gaming. No entertainment in it anymore....oh but hang on, if I just deposit £4000 at the casino I use the most, they will AWARD me 10fs on Starburst @ 10p per spin.....Yes, the promos are also GASH...!

 

[gagamel]

Dont dare speak out about ACTUAL experiences, you will get told its all tin foil had conspiracies.

No bonus....800 spins on Jurassic Park @ 90p a spin without a feature,....on more than one occasion in a row.

Very very regularly over 400spins for a feature on any microgaming slot

600 spins on Gonzos Quest @ £1 a spin without a bonus.

Over 1000spins on DOA @ 27p a spin before a 5xstake bonus.

You would think thats a worst highlights of a gambling year.... but thats just the norm and thats in the past 2 weeks.

Things have 100% gotten worse, I very rarely mention it as it gets the usual replies (which this will too) I used to enjoy online gaming. But there isnt anything to enjoy anymore, games with crazy low RTP's never finding out how a Casino's WD process is because nobody wins enough to try it.

Think I'm done with online gaming. No entertainment in it anymore....oh but hang on, if I just deposit £4000 at the casino I use the most, they will AWARD me 10fs on Starburst @ 10p per spin.....Yes, the promos are also GASH...!

Have a break

 

[Harry_BKK]

Have a break

Have a Kit-Kat

 

[xxshepxx]

Have a ...f right off, I'm finished.

 

[goatwack]

Have some Valium

Sorry, I think I ruined the moment

 

[Jono777]

No bonus....800 spins on Jurassic Park @ 90p a spin without a feature,....on more than one occasion in a row.

Virtually every time I play the fucking extinct piece of vile filth!

On the days when the 3rd scatter does show its ugly mush 15-25x EVERY time.

Microgaming have gone craven, money grabbers with slots which simply eat -4% my arse more like -96%

Average out 100 features on any 243 WW MG slots, bet its close to 17x

Anyway time for some IR

 

[goatwack]

Virtually every time I play the fucking extinct piece of vile filth!

On the days when the 3rd scatter does show its ugly mush 15-25x EVERY time.

Microgaming have gone craven, money grabbers with slots which simply eat -4% my arse more like -96%

Average out 100 features on any 243 WW MG slots, bet its close to 17x

Anyway time for some IR

Language, Timothy! :Read:

 

[lockinlove]

Happens every single time I take a bonus. And I mean every.

 

[lockinlove]

Virtually every time I play the fucking extinct piece of vile filth!

On the days when the 3rd scatter does show its ugly mush 15-25x EVERY time.

Microgaming have gone craven, money grabbers with slots which simply eat -4% my arse more like -96%

Average out 100 features on any 243 WW MG slots, bet its close to 17x

Anyway time for some IR

whats up with the trex feature? Every single time I have had that it pays approx 4x.

It usually takes me minimum 200 spins to get a feature on this game and usually pays 20x

 

[Jono777]

whats up with the trex feature? Every single time I have had that it pays approx 4x.

It usually takes me minimum 200 spins to get a feature on this game and usually pays 20x

Agreed T-Rex is awful, then again aren't they all lol.

Since 'unlocking' the choice of bonus, to avoid 'decisions time' I pick in order from left to right so T-Rex is always first.

T-Rex - Reels slow (or go extra laggy compared to normal spins) Plenty of 3OAK and 4OAK Dinosaurs, no sign of any 'Humans' win, constant Stacked/semi-stacked T-rex on reels 1 & 2 only, can tell from animation how many reels are going wild, very rare it 5OAK's when reels wild.

Velico Stacks up to 3rd reel to 'get you going', freezes for no reason makes you think something is 'happening' when it is not.

Brachio 'Mystery Multiplier' my arse, at least 9 out of the 12 spins are usually at x2, most of the 12 spins consist of 2 scatter 'teasers' - Stacked brachios are used only to block potential wins on 2nd or 3rd reel.

Triceratops - With increasing wild stack/running wilds, ones which disappear off the bottom of the screen and never stay in view, and if they do its 3 x 3OAK Dilopho.

Dilopho THE MOST FRUSTRATING LITTLE FART EVER, rare 'it' shows, always reels 3-5 so 'Winning' (yeah right) wilds spin straight off when you finally get one.

and the creme on the cake, 'T-Rex - Extra Wilds' - MG must piss themselves with laughter over that one

Why do we bother.

I have a video which Id upload if YT/my BB didn't take the piss where I think T'-Rex wilds activate 6-7 times out the 12 and varies between 2-3 wild reels at a time, paid OK..ish but a serious case of 'What could have been'

I have played this regular over last month and it has been 'on the take' none stop, when first released, it was a very fair slot and even useful for wagering etc. Now it is EVIL!!!! - Worse than IR and I did not think that possible!

 

[lockinlove]

Agreed T-Rex is awful, then again aren't they all lol.

Since 'unlocking' the choice of bonus, to avoid 'decisions time' I pick in order from left to right so T-Rex is always first.

T-Rex - Reels slow (or go extra laggy compared to normal spins) Plenty of 3OAK and 4OAK Dinosaurs, no sign of any 'Humans' win, constant Stacked/semi-stacked T-rex on reels 1 & 2 only, can tell from animation how many reels are going wild, very rare it 5OAK's when reels wild.

Velico Stacks up to 3rd reel to 'get you going', freezes for no reason makes you think something is 'happening' when it is not.

Brachio 'Mystery Multiplier' my arse, at least 9 out of the 12 spins are usually at x2, most of the 12 spins consist of 2 scatter 'teasers' - Stacked brachios are used only to block potential wins on 2nd or 3rd reel.

Triceratops - With increasing wild stack/running wilds, ones which disappear off the bottom of the screen and never stay in view, and if they do its 3 x 3OAK Dilopho.

Dilopho THE MOST FRUSTRATING LITTLE FART EVER, rare 'it' shows, always reels 3-5 so 'Winning' (yeah right) wilds spin straight off when you finally get one.

and the creme on the cake, 'T-Rex - Extra Wilds' - MG must piss themselves with laughter over that one

Why do we bother.

I have a video which Id upload if YT/my BB didn't take the piss where I think T'-Rex wilds activate 6-7 times out the 12 and varies between 2-3 wild reels at a time, paid OK..ish but a serious case of 'What could have been'

I have played this regular over last month and it has been 'on the take' none stop, when first released, it was a very fair slot and even useful for wagering etc. Now it is EVIL!!!! - Worse than IR and I did not think that possible!

The truest post everrrrrrrr.

And I just had the brachio bonus and it never changed from 2x the entire bonus round...lol. First time I saw that. paid 18x

Edit: actually just got it again and did the same thing!!!! but this time it paid $52 on a .60 bet.

Pretty weird I start bashing this slot then I got 2 bonus round within first 50 spins aaahhaha

But yeah the random wilds feature I dont even understand how it can be bad every time. The best I have ever hit is like $16 on .60 bet.

Would be curious to see if anyone has every got a really nice win from that feature

IR is hands down my worst slot online. 99% of the time I lose. Not even kidding

 

[xxshepxx]

Ever since unlocking the player choice option I have never had over 25x stake in the bonus. And ive had rather a lot of bonus rounds at 3 different casinos.

 

[Mouche12]

And I join the club too - although I am actually against taking bonuses myself. Last time at Guts, where I grinded WR quite smoothly (40% bonus on a $50 deposit) and cashed out $1000. All year no dough (and the greater part of 2015), neither at VS, Guts, V&J, Casumo or Rizk - but I take this one-time bonus and wham!

 

[Captain Rizk]

If anyone genuinely believes this when you deposit with Operators that are licenced and regulated in multiple jurisdictions, that only offer software that is tested and certified by independent testing organisations and then the provider further certified plus each game release approved and certified and you have a Rizk account please PM me your email address.

I will happily block your account because if you believe this and yet still deposit money then you have a problem......

Ok so it might be foil hatting but I'm beginning to find that bonus rounds seem to occur a hell of a lot more frequently when I've taken a bonus and have wagering to play through?! It literally happens every time I take a bonus, whatever slot I play I get a feature pretty quickly yet if I deposit without bonus funds I can't hit sod all! I maybe imagining this but to say it's a little suspect is a bit of an understatement! Does anyone else notice this or is it only me?

 

[goatwack]

If anyone genuinely believes this when you deposit with Operators that are licenced and regulated in multiple jurisdictions, that only offer software that is tested and certified by independent testing organisations and then the provider further certified plus each game release approved and certified and you have a Rizk account please PM me your email address.

I will happily block your account because if you believe this and yet still deposit money then you have a problem......

I don't see a problem with stating one's own observations with slot play or throwing the questions out there. Not everyone has to agree with their point. We like to form opinions over time and patterns repeat themselves in absurd ways!

Slot play is ridiculously loose at certain sites at the first time of asking compared to playing the same game continuously at a regular site. Questions and tinfoil theories form. I think this forum is a great place to share and have a joke about it too, otherwise we might as well close it down

I only speak from my *observations* and nobody is stating indisputable facts. And let's not forget, I love winning on slots when they play looser than Jezebel at a Caligula convention

 

[Jono777]

If anyone genuinely believes this when you deposit with Operators that are licenced and regulated in multiple jurisdictions, that only offer software that is tested and certified by independent testing organisations and then the provider further certified plus each game release approved and certified and you have a Rizk account please PM me your email address.

I will happily block your account because if you believe this and yet still deposit money then you have a problem......

I can't believe OP actually read this (https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/am-i-imagining-this.74437/) as genuine Cap'n and not the 'piss take' it was intended to be lol.

As for Jurassic Park, you sure they not stripped the wilds and scatters off

Hope your well btw

 

[hedgehok]

If anyone genuinely believes this when you deposit with Operators that are licenced and regulated in multiple jurisdictions, that only offer software that is tested and certified by independent testing organisations and then the provider further certified plus each game release approved and certified and you have a Rizk account please PM me your email address.

I will happily block your account because if you believe this and yet still deposit money then you have a problem......

Most players tend to believe their own (limited) observations more than far more reliable data out of tests and statistical analysis. Don't open a can of worms here

 

[goatwack]

Most players tend to believe their own (limited) observations more than far more reliable data out of tests and statistical analysis. Don't open a can of worms here

Well, like I stated earlier, it's just likely wishful thinking. We love to form patterns based on very limited data....I very much doubt that I'll see more than 1-2 million spins in my slotting career, a very minute sample to go on for sure.

But this has a dual-effect, patterns can also repeat themselves in good ways. We overlook the good gameplay spikes as 'pure skill' whilst blindly kidding ourselves!

 

[Captain Rizk]

Just to clarify. It wasn't supposed to be taken at face value in the same way that I assume the original thread wasn't. I was merely pointing out an irony that occurs to me every time I read one of these many, many threads!!

 

[goatwack]

Just to clarify. It wasn't supposed to be taken at face value in the same way that I assume the original thread wasn't. I was merely pointing out an irony that occurs to me every time I read one of these many, many threads!!

I'd love to see Rizk sell or give away tinfoil hats as part of a promo or to be bought with loyalty points or something. Imagine how cool it's be to own a Rizk-emblazoned hat. I'd buy one for sure!