32Red Slotsmeister Exclusive Tourney

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Slotsmeister 10 Year Summary

Hi again everyone, I promised an update - I thought I would start with some stats over the 10 years of the promotion. Note that it's not exact (some players were removed when they left the forum etc) but just for a bit of fun.

Total free chips awarded (excluding special prizes): 186,120
Number of forum members making the top 32 at least once: 275
First 3 members to join: cslate, Nicole50 & Slotster!
Mr Seconditis - most no of second places: sjn

Leaderboard Winners Top 5

Position - ForumId - No Wins
1 - paulcr - 39
2 - sjn - 34
3 - vinylweatherman - 17
4 & 5 - BIGZEDBUD & b3b44 - 9 each

Leaderboard Appearances Top 10

Position - ForumID - Appearances
1 - paulcr - 96 appearances
2 - BIGZEDBUD - 91 appearances
3 - flyer187 - 90 appearances
4- sjn - 78 appearances
5 - sjonnny - 76 appearances
6- Tirilej - 76 appearances
7 - sparkles - 66 appearances
8 - ternur - 64 appearances
9 - purpletin - 61 appearances
10 - bosjack - 61 appearances

Most Rewarded Members

Position - ForumID - Credits
1- paulcr - 14,292
2 - sjn - 13,700
3 - BIGZEDBUD - 9,421
4 - vinylweatherman - 7,014
5 - flyer187 - 5,449
6 - bosjack - 5,258
7 - Manesh888 - 4,080
8 - Tirilej - 4,063
9 - b3b44 - 3,457
10 - plasticnote - 2,943

More to follow... please feel free to ask for any stat you don't see.

Mark

 

[Tirilej]

I read those figures wrong, sorry. Many months, many spins

I will miss it

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

All Time Slotsmeister Top 10 - Additional £2k in Prizes

Here's the top 10 players of the promotion, by the number of spins made. We're giving away 2,000 free chips (standard wagering) to these amazing people:

Position - ForumID - Points - Prize
1 - sjn - 12,355,113 - 500
2 - paulcr - 12,258,027 - 400
3 - BIGZEDBUD - 11,895,882 - 250
4 - vinylweatherman - 7,726,071 - 200
5 - bosjack - 4,755,251 - 150
6 - flyer187 - 4,716,247 - 100
7 - Tirilej - 4,078,453 - 100
8 - b3b44 - 3,701,964 - 100
9 - Manesh888 - 3,413,813 - 100
10 - plasticnote - 3,237,201 - 100

As there is standard wagering on these bonuses (30x) please PM when you would like it credited.

Regards
Mark

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Wow Mark It would be nice to see how many times in total I've been on that list. I think I've been in at least 7 maybe 8 years and just missed a few months.
I will miss it

It's in the post, 76 times you've been on the list.

 

[Tirilej]

It's in the post, 76 times you've been on the list.

I changed my post because I did realize just that

Then I have to edit again when I saw I won another prize. Wow, thanks again Mark

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Leaderboard Appearances Bonuses

The following players didn't make the final leaderboard, but all win 50 chips (standard wagering) for their number of appearances:

Position - ForumID - Appearances
1 - sjonnny - 76 appearances
2 - sparkles - 66 appearances
3 - ternur - 64 appearances
4 - purpletin - 61 appearances
5 - bosjack - 61 appearances

As there is standard wagering on these bonuses (30x) please PM when you would like it credited.

Mark

 

[paulcr]

Thanks very much Mark. Will miss the monthly competition as I can’t compete with the wager based competitions you run site wide that are based on rubies earned. There must be people wagering tens/hundred of thousand per day to win those.

 

[Flyer187]

Congratulations to all winners and participants

3rd in leaderboard appearances and 5th in most rewarded

#winning

 

[paulcr]

Looking back over the past results didn’t BIDZEDBUD get a ridiculously high score one month, way above anything I have ever got. Would like to know how they managed that. Will hunt back and try and find it.

 

[Jono777]

Hi Mark,

Regarding the stats are you able to show personal to myself

Date joined SM
Spins Made
Total Prize money

Not to worry if its too much digging mate

 

[paulcr]

Found it, In Dec 2010 they got 1.42 million.

That’s one spin every 1.88 seconds for a whole month if my sums are correct.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Found it, In Dec 2010 they got 1.42 million.

That’s one spin every 1.88 seconds for a whole month if my sums are correct.

Beat me to it! 1,421,860 in Dec 2010. Crazy!

Here's the top 10 scores achieved and by who:

Score - Who - When
1,421,860 - BIGZEDBUD - 31/12/2010
741,766 - vinylweatherman - 31/05/2017
592,123 - vinylweatherman - 30/06/2018
577,431 - vinylweatherman - 31/08/2013
576,227 - vinylweatherman - 31/12/2012
558,087 - vinylweatherman - 30/11/2012
535,327 - vinylweatherman - 31/10/2016
528,893 - BIGZEDBUD - 30/11/2012
528,528 - sjn - 31/12/2011
487,805 - BIGZEDBUD - 30/11/2010

Mark

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi Mark,

Regarding the stats are you able to show personal to myself

Date joined SM
Spins Made
Total Prize money

Not to worry if its too much digging mate

Hi Jon,

Date Joined: 20/10/14
Spins: 1,028,517
Prizes: 1,341

Cheers
Mark

 

[mimi26]

Hi Mark,

So are none of us other active members getting a share of the money saved by 32red as you stated early in June?

 

[Tirilej]

Hi Mark,

So are none of us other active members getting a share of the money saved by 32red as you stated early in June?

Did they really save something if they gave out $2000 more?

I hope you're not angry too that just some of us that been in this tourny the longest got to share this bonus.
I thought that if it's more complaints about it then maybe Mark can take my money and split it between everyone that said double my fun (and mina).
I have $150 in there now and I don't want this to end so people feel disappointed. It's at least something.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Beat me to it! 1,421,860 in Dec 2010. Crazy!

Here's the top 10 scores achieved and by who:

Score - Who - When
1,421,860 - BIGZEDBUD - 31/12/2010
741,766 - vinylweatherman - 31/05/2017
592,123 - vinylweatherman - 30/06/2018
577,431 - vinylweatherman - 31/08/2013
576,227 - vinylweatherman - 31/12/2012
558,087 - vinylweatherman - 30/11/2012
535,327 - vinylweatherman - 31/10/2016
528,893 - BIGZEDBUD - 30/11/2012
528,528 - sjn - 31/12/2011
487,805 - BIGZEDBUD - 30/11/2010

Mark

See everyone,

I am not the big Slotsmeister crusher, but I have taken places in the top 5 for all the long term categories, and 4 of the top 5 in the above category

But, it's Paulcr and sjn who have topped the long term league, not to mention the massive 1,421,860 top score. Now, I would have gone after this overall top score had there been a special prize on offer for it, and given where I was mid month, I could have done it (unless my GPU burned out with the strain).


Have I won too much, NO! (Well, maybe a yes if you just look at my long term cash position at 32Red )

Shall I post "it" again Dunover

 

[Jono777]

Whatever 'it' is yes! - Some of us are still very young in terms of CM years

I promise I'll keep my 'You know what' well and truly hidden away!

 

[geordiecolin]

Hi Mark,

So are none of us other active members getting a share of the money saved by 32red as you stated early in June?

I am a little confused as to what qualifies as award worthy too given that so many did not post to this thread? I wagered a fair amount over the past month so I presumed it would get somewhere?
Nevertheless. I hardly lost much and I do enjoy and appreciate these exclusive CM promo's.

 

[mimi26]

Did they really save something if they gave out $2000 more?

I hope you're not angry too that just some of us that been in this tourny the longest got to share this bonus.
I thought that if it's more complaints about it then maybe Mark can take my money and split it between everyone that said double my fun (and mina).
I have $150 in there now and I don't want this to end so people feel disappointed. It's at least something.

Angry no, I was just reminding Mark what he said which was

''To qualify for the June double payment you must comment ‘double my fun’ in the thread. Anyone who doesn’t by the end of the month won’t qualify and the saved payments will be distributed to the active members.''

So I think it was fair to assume we would all get a share, and no thats your bonus fair and square for you to spend and I am pleased for you and you deserve it.
You are being rewarded for your loyalty. But I am just going by what Mark said

 

[goatwack]

I've placed three times in six years, if that helps anyone

£10, £25 & £50 I believe. Last one I almost fainted when I saw it

 

[Tirilej]

Angry no, I was just reminding Mark what he said which was

''To qualify for the June double payment you must comment ‘double my fun’ in the thread. Anyone who doesn’t by the end of the month won’t qualify and the saved payments will be distributed to the active members.''

So I think it was fair to assume we would all get a share, and no thats your bonus fair and square for you to spend and I am pleased for you and you deserve it.
You are being rewarded for your loyalty. But I am just going by what Mark said

I believe he felt that it would be those that really have been loyal and active for a long time to get a part of that. We all got this month bonus doubled at least and that is a lot of money.
Whatever they do it is wrong for someone I suppose. You can't say I deserve it and at the same time say it should be shared between this last month posters
I won't touch my money until I know if it's possible to make everyone happy. Unfortunately I can't add more.

 

[The Viking]

Congrats to all the winners out there and thanks to 32red for the tourney over the years Guess i didnt do enough over the lat couple of years to be included but no hard feelings, and thanks again

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

I won't touch my money until I know if it's possible to make everyone happy. Unfortunately I can't add more.

Tirilej that's very kind of you but unfortunately I'm going to insist you keep it.

For those who are disgruntled at the final game and prizes, I'm sorry that you feel that way. By my calculations it was almost 3k in additional bonuses credited this month, I think that's pretty generous (the usual monthly amount is 1500 + special prizes)

Anyway, as Mina says, 32Red can't afford it.

What a shame it had to end on a sour note. Thanks again to all those who took part.

Mark

 

[vinylweatherman]

Tirilej that's very kind of you but unfortunately I'm going to insist you keep it.

For those who are disgruntled at the final game and prizes, I'm sorry that you feel that way. By my calculations it was almost 3k in additional bonuses credited this month, I think that's pretty generous (the usual monthly amount is 1500 + special prizes)

Anyway, as Mina says, 32Red can't afford it.

What a shame it had to end on a sour note. Thanks again to all those who took part.

Mark

Perhaps what some people can't grasp is the inability of a fair sized online casino operator so skint they can't afford £3000, let alone adding a little more to the pot to make everyone happy.

It often seems that things are getting taken away, but nothing is coming along to replace them. No Slotsmeister, no MG tournaments, soon it will just be plain vanilla casino games, which you can get anywhere.

As this event goes, the prizes for the last month, in combined total, were the biggest I can remember in the running of this promo.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Perhaps what some people can't grasp is the inability of a fair sized online casino operator so skint they can't afford £3000, let alone adding a little more to the pot to make everyone happy.

It often seems that things are getting taken away, but nothing is coming along to replace them. No Slotsmeister, no MG tournaments, soon it will just be plain vanilla casino games, which you can get anywhere.

As this event goes, the prizes for the last month, in combined total, were the biggest I can remember in the running of this promo.

I can't tell whether you also think we're also wrong for not adding more. Sorry if so, but being 'skint' isn't part of the decision making process. This was an additional promotion on top of existing player offers. Many of you will have been playing with 32Red bonus funds or collecting points towards other leaderboards while getting rewarded (at very low WR) here. In fact, I'd go as far as to say this was a loss-leader in terms of promotions if I could look at the overall P&L.

Mark

 

[geordiecolin]

Tirilej that's very kind of you but unfortunately I'm going to insist you keep it.

For those who are disgruntled at the final game and prizes, I'm sorry that you feel that way. By my calculations it was almost 3k in additional bonuses credited this month, I think that's pretty generous (the usual monthly amount is 1500 + special prizes)

Anyway, as Mina says, 32Red can't afford it.

What a shame it had to end on a sour note. Thanks again to all those who took part.

Mark

I am not disgruntled at all Mark. I appreciate both 32Red and you for consistently providing this promo over so many years and the time and effort it must take you to work on. I'm also not unhappy with not receiving an award. I was simply confused by the terms and completely understand that your unable to please everyone.
Congratulations to everyone who won and if 32Red run another promo I will be in,just as I have been with most of your comps since I joined

Edit. I too think it has ended on a high

 

[Jory]

What a shame it had to end on a sour note. Thanks again to all those who took part.

I like to think it ended on a high.

It goes without saying how much the community appreciated this competition and I wish each and every one of them the best of luck!

I just hope I was not partly reasonable for the misconception that the inactive players prizes would be distributed between those who participated. I did chat to a lot of members about how I believed the prize structure would work and I only hope I didn't encourage anyone to play more than they should have in the hope of an added reward.

Despite not being one of the lucky ones, I do feel your decision of awarding the special prizes to the most loyal customers to be ultimately the correct one. This was a promotion that was suppose to last 1 month, but was continued for 10 years!!! It seems only fitting that those who receive special prizes are those who contributed the most over these years.

Again I apologise to anyone I chatted to about the prize structure and I wish each and every one of you the best of luck in the future!

 

[colinsunderland]

I can't tell whether you also think we're also wrong for not adding more. Sorry if so, but being 'skint' isn't part of the decision making process. This was an additional promotion on top of existing player offers. Many of you will have been playing with 32Red bonus funds or collecting points towards other leaderboards while getting rewarded (at very low WR) here. In fact, I'd go as far as to say this was a loss-leader in terms of promotions if I could look at the overall P&L.

Mark

I can't tell either.
Presumably the tournament has ended due to the recent Kindred take over?

 

[Jono777]

Well sour grapes well and truly trodden in to the ground, I am more than happy with the final Slotsmeister outcome, decisions, prizes etc etc.

Members who've been here 4-5 years (such as myself) need to remember some SM/CM'ers have been here double that amount of time.

Maybe I could argue "where's my extra" as 32 Red is almost like having a secret mistress to whom I've always remained faithful, however I'm not greedy and just happy to have had my prize doubled.

Let's not forget all the added extra Mark/32 has run over the month's/years, not just SM, also I struggle to think of a single promotion than comes even close to the generosity of this one!

 

[geordiecolin]

Well sour grapes well and truly trodden in to the ground, I am more than happy with the final Slotsmeister outcome, decisions, prizes etc etc.

Members who've been here 4-5 years (such as myself) need to remember some SM/CM'ers have been here double that amount of time.

Maybe I could argue "where's my extra" as 32 Red is almost like having a secret mistress to whom I've always remained faithful, however I'm not greedy and just happy to have had my prize doubled.

Let's not forget all the added extra Mark/32 has run over the month's/years, not just SM, also I struggle to think of a single promotion than comes even close to the generosity of this one!

Do one with your sour grapes comment. For me more than one of us required clarification and we got it. End of for me and without any sour grapes.
My coffers are full so why should I be sour about a few bob?

 

[Jono777]

Do one with your sour grapes comment. For me more than one of us required clarification and we got it. End of for me and without any sour grapes.
My coffers are full so why should I be sour about a few bob?

I think you misunderstood me matey and I am somewhat also shocked by your reaction.

I used the words 'sour' from Mark's earlier post and merely (and now wish I hadn't) turned it into an everyday phrase.

I was not aimed at anyone, it was not intended to be malicious, it WAS intended to maybe calm things down and now it has done the opposite.

I wish now I had not bothered and will be ultra careful moving forward when I do contribute to this forum

 

[geordiecolin]

I think you misunderstood me matey and I am somewhat also shocked by your reaction.

I used the words 'sour' from Mark's earlier post and merely (and now wish I hadn't) turned it into an everyday phrase.

I was not aimed at anyone, it was not intended to be malicious, it WAS intended to maybe calm things down and now it has done the opposite.

I wish now I had not bothered and will be ultra careful moving forward when I do contribute to this forum

Ok. Calm down and have a jam sandwich. My misunderstanding then

 

[mimi26]

Tirilej that's very kind of you but unfortunately I'm going to insist you keep it.

For those who are disgruntled at the final game and prizes, I'm sorry that you feel that way. By my calculations it was almost 3k in additional bonuses credited this month, I think that's pretty generous (the usual monthly amount is 1500 + special prizes)

Anyway, as Mina says, 32Red can't afford it.

What a shame it had to end on a sour note. Thanks again to all those who took part.

Mark

Ok Mark, I dont think thats fair, it goes beyond doubt that everyone is grateful for the tourny, and it did not end up sour, I have no idea what Mina was on about TBF, I just asked a simple question based on what you had said you did say the funds would be distributed towards the active members, you never said it would be the active members of your choosing. Yes thats your decision thats fair enough.

I think what everyone needs to remember is loyalty is not based on the amount of money spent its where whatever budget you have is spent and the years you stay, through some very unfavrouble changes I might add.......... so no (Jono) its not sour grapes and its not greedy.

Anyway I am leaving it there, and again thanks for the tournament and I hope all those that received their winnings have big withdrawals..........not me I busted on Ladies night

 

[Jono777]

See post 1631 please.

See how one negative (or misunderstanding / bad wording) post stands out like a sore thumb, yet thousands of polite. helpful, bending over backwards post soon get forgotten.

That's me done posting in this place for a while.

 

[goatwack]

See post 1631 please.

See how one negative (or misunderstanding / bad wording) post stands out like a sore thumb, yet thousands of polite. helpful, bending over backwards post soon get forgotten.

That's me done posting in this place for a while.

Err no you don't sonny jim, you're not getting off that easy

It's just text-speak Jon, we all get it wrong sometimes. Everyone appreciates your input boiii

 

[Jory]

Anyway I am leaving it there, and again thanks for the tournament and I hope all those that received their winnings have big withdrawals..........not me I busted on Ladies night

Well if it helps, I also bust out. It was quite painful going from £200 to £0 in 30 minutes, but that's how gambling works and I always blame myself. Sure there was suddenly that voice in the back of my head saying I deserved more, and that's why I hate "that guy" .

One thing I've come to learn about gambling is that there were always 2 versions of me. The guy who's winning, and the guy who's losing. Truth be told, I've never liked the guy who was losing and nor would anyone else. He would complain about the most trivial things feeling unjust. These days I keep that guy under a lock and key and look forward. It's all swings and roundabouts - today I'm the guy who loses were as others win, another day I might be the guy winning and the envy of others.

Ask yourself that if you had won today, would you still find this an issue? This is not meant as an attempt to belittle you or discredit your opinion, I'm just trying to say it's not worth caring about.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Well if it helps, I also bust out. It was quite painful going from £200 to £0 in 30 minutes, but that's how gambling works and I always blame myself. Sure there was suddenly that voice in the back of my head saying I deserved more, and that's why I hate "that guy" .

One thing I've come to learn about gambling is that there were always 2 versions of me. The guy who's winning, and the guy who's losing. Truth be told, I've never liked the guy who was losing and nor would anyone else. He would complain about the most trivial things feeling unjust. These days I keep that guy under a lock and key and look forward. It's all swings and roundabouts - today I'm the guy who loses were as others win, another day I might be the guy winning and the envy of others.

Ask yourself that if you had won today, would you still find this an issue? This is not meant as an attempt to belittle you or discredit your opinion, I'm just trying to say it's not worth caring about.

I think we all have those two versions buddy, the key thing (as you say) is putting that losing guy to one side quite quickly. When the fun stops, stop as they say!

Mark

 

[Tirilej]

I think we all have those two versions buddy, the key thing (as you say) is putting that losing guy to one side quite quickly. When the fun stops, stop as they say!

Mark

Then there are those that are just silly, like me, who can give away things without even know if I would have won or lost

Lucky you told me to keep going. I'm up to 500-600 going up and down. I just wish I could see each ten I had wagered so I could have some kind of strategy. I intend to win you know

 

[mimi26]

Well if it helps, I also bust out. It was quite painful going from £200 to £0 in 30 minutes, but that's how gambling works and I always blame myself. Sure there was suddenly that voice in the back of my head saying I deserved more, and that's why I hate "that guy" .

One thing I've come to learn about gambling is that there were always 2 versions of me. The guy who's winning, and the guy who's losing. Truth be told, I've never liked the guy who was losing and nor would anyone else. He would complain about the most trivial things feeling unjust. These days I keep that guy under a lock and key and look forward. It's all swings and roundabouts - today I'm the guy who loses were as others win, another day I might be the guy winning and the envy of others.

Ask yourself that if you had won today, would you still find this an issue? This is not meant as an attempt to belittle you or discredit your opinion, I'm just trying to say it's not worth caring about.

Sorry but yes I still would have questioned.......and I am sorry for you but there is only one of me whether winning or losing and if I see something I dont think is fair I will call it out....

 

[mimi26]

Then there are those that are just silly, like me, who can give away things without even know if I would have won or lost

Lucky you told me to keep going. I'm up to 500-600 going up and down. I just wish I could see each ten I had wagered so I could have some kind of strategy. I intend to win you know

I dont know whether you are playing on download or what but if you are playing on the website just open another tab and open 32red, it will give you an indicator of where you are with WR..i.e just look in balance how much bonus is there

 

[Louforbes85]

ImI just happy I made it onto the leaderboard once in my lifetime.

Well done everyone and thanks to @Mark_32Red

Lou

P.s only slightly jelly of everyone

 

[Tirilej]

I dont know whether you are playing on download or what but if you are playing on the website just open another tab and open 32red, it will give you an indicator of where you are with WR..i.e just look in balance how much bonus is there

Thanks I maybe check in there later. Always play on download, never on the website. I think it's horrible

 

[mimi26]

Thanks I maybe check in there later. Always play on download, never on the website. I think it's horrible

then I think if you just hover over your balance it will show how much bonus is left

 

[Tirilej]

then I think if you just hover over your balance it will show how much bonus is left

No it doesn't or I wouldn't have mentioned it

 

[mimi26]

No it doesn't or I wouldn't have mentioned it

ok just trying to be helpful

 

[Tirilej]

ok just trying to be helpful

I know. I was typing on the phone so couldn't explain
They changed it someway when they got a new bonus system. I know I read about it but I thought maybe there was a way.
Maybe also the fact that it was all bonus from the start that needed to be wagered 30x. I intend to beat it anyway and I know I can ask support but I won't. Ok, back playing

 

[mina888]

It’s not about $100 but about what it represented. I was a club rouge player with 100% match deposit up to 10k, then down to 5k, then down to 25% match bonus. This was the only thing going for 32red and now this. Why would Mark half way through a tournament say I won’t double players prizes only because one person complained?
I think it’s time I close my account at 32red. I appreciate what Mark has done through the years, I thanked him privately and here, but why would he pull something like this when it’s the last time after 10 years!

 

[mimi26]

It’s not about $100 but about what it represented. I was a club rouge player with 100% match deposit up to 10k, then down to 5k, then down to 25% match bonus. This was the only thing going for 32red and now this. Why would Mark half way through a tournament say I won’t double players prizes only because one person complained?
I think it’s time I close my account at 32red. I appreciate what Mark has done through the years, I thanked him privately and here, but why would he pull something like this when it’s the last time after 10 years!

Mina I have to be honest, I have no idea what you have a problem with? he never changed his mind about doubling the payments, those who commented 'double my fun' got the double amount, that what the last month was about, if you never saw the thread thats no ones fault really

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Mina I have to be honest, I have no idea what you have a problem with? he never changed his mind about doubling the payments, those who commented 'double my fun' got the double amount, that what the last month was about, if you never saw the thread thats no ones fault really

Thanks Mimi. The whole point of the make a comment thing was to make sure those who interact with the forum were rewarded. After all it was a forum promo and people pointed out that people were being rewarded without contributing to this great community.

Mina, sorry you are unhappy, if you choose to close your account over this I can only apologise again and wish you good luck in your chosen casino. I hope you have a rethink at a later date.

Regards
Mark

 

[vinylweatherman]

I can't tell whether you also think we're also wrong for not adding more. Sorry if so, but being 'skint' isn't part of the decision making process. This was an additional promotion on top of existing player offers. Many of you will have been playing with 32Red bonus funds or collecting points towards other leaderboards while getting rewarded (at very low WR) here. In fact, I'd go as far as to say this was a loss-leader in terms of promotions if I could look at the overall P&L.

Mark

You are not wrong, but many customers don't know how things work internally. I am sure you have been allocated an overall budget to run this promotion, and would need permission to overspend, which is probably unlikely to be granted. However, when a customer is told finances are so tight that an extra £1000 simply can't be found in order to make something fairer, it can give the impression that the business has very tight finances overall.

This must be a tiny promotion in the overall scheme of things, and there are other 32Red leaderboard promotions running, although they are based on total amount wagered, unlike number of spins.

There is another thread about the "ongoing diabolical promotions" that seem to be afflicting the whole online casino industry in general, not just specific "tight" casinos. Part of the problem is that it's the various promotions that make each casino different, and will have a significant influence when many players decide where to play.