What kind of computer.........

[weesie]

and internet speed do I need to play this fast?


Keep in mind, all players are playing the same game and betting max and
most likely spinning as fast as possible since it is a timed situation.

I want to be able to spin as fast as the second player in the first screen shot and the third
player down in the second screen shot.

Just curious what is available and still legal by casino standards.

The third one is illegible but it is similar.

 

[petro]

You have the game set to turbo?
And why not ask in 3Dice chat? I'm sure they would be more helpful than the forum members.

 

[incrediblestuff]

I heard from Blathaon he is using some proggie called :speedhack: iirc , to speed up certain games that are slot, but he is jsut using it for real money private play, this person might be using the same thing, but in this case it is cheating, as it gives him an unfair advantage over the rest...at least in most tournaments. What dud Enzo or Anna have to say about it? or didn't you report it yet?

I hope Blathaon replies too, he will enlighten you on the correct name of the proggie

 

[petro]

...but in this case it is cheating, as it gives him an unfair advantage over the rest...at least in most tournaments.

Speed does not offer any advantage to players in the 3Dice tournies.

 

[weesie]

You have the game set to turbo?
And why not ask in 3Dice chat? I'm sure they would be more helpful than the forum members.

Yes, set to turbo

 

[weesie]

Speed does not offer any advantage to players in the 3Dice tournies.

Thats a whole other subject............ I did not say it did. Just looking for speed and this is an EXAMPLE

 

[petro]

Thats a whole other subject............ I did not say it did. Just looking for speed and this is an EXAMPLE

I misinterpreted you, sorry.

A speed program would be helpful in 3Dice tournies as they do get boring after awhile.
I can understand why you came here and didn't ask in 3Dice chat.

 

[weesie]

I heard from Blathaon he is using some proggie called :speedhack: iirc , to speed up certain games that are slot, but he is jsut using it for real money private play, this person might be using the same thing, but in this case it is cheating, as it gives him an unfair advantage over the rest...at least in most tournaments. What dud Enzo or Anna have to say about it? or didn't you report it yet?

I hope Blathaon replies too, he will enlighten you on the correct name of the proggie

Well, I was trying NOT to "refer" to 3D............. just the information I am looking for.

And no, they have said it is legal play, but again, I am just looking for SPEED and/or legal programs that are available.

 

[incrediblestuff]

I looked it up and the proggie i was referring to is "cheatengine" and that has a feature called "speedhack"

I checked your screenies, and whatever 3Dice says, that are definitely not normal gameplay results, if they think it is, they just aren't able to detect speedhack or a similar program.
I had a very fast PC a few years back, and played 3dice ultrasmooth at top speed and also am a tourney veteran, and i can assure you those amount of spins aren't possible without such an extra..

And @ Petro: it does add an advantage,.. of course luck is still a factor but basically if you can get significantly more spins in then everyone else, presuming your RTP is average or a bit higher, you will be more likely to hit a really big one then the rest (remember that most slots max payouts are mathematically going to happen once every so many spins, and as such one player that can make significantly more spins per tourney, will have thus achieved his so many spins much sooner, or more often, then the rest.) so i would like to kindly disagree

 

[petro]

And @ Petro: it does add an advantage,..

True, but it wouldn't be a significant advantage.
The main idea is to cut down on the time spent playing.

 

[weesie]

I looked it up and the proggie i was referring to is "cheatengine" and that has a feature called "speedhack"

I checked your screenies, and whatever 3Dice says, that are definitely not normal gameplay results, if they think it is, they just aren't able to detect speedhack or a similar program.
I had a very fast PC a few years back, and played 3dice ultrasmooth at top speed and also am a tourney veteran, and i can assure you those amount of spins aren't possible without such an extra..

Thank you........... I agree with your theory/statement.

So, this "speedhack", is it legal to use? I am older and can use the help! Lmao!

 

[incrediblestuff]

Legal.. i do not know, best thing to do is ask the Casino where you want to use it, to make sure they are ok with it.. in away it is altering the presented software with an added software, so, it is up to the Casino really, most can't detect it i assume, but if they do they probably have it somewhere in their T%C's, to not "tamper" with the Casinos client other then by means of the available options

 

[vinylweatherman]

I am sure this has come up before, and 3Dice have banned some players from the tournaments for blatant "cheating", which could include this kind of thing where it can give an advantage.

The problem comes in determining what is possible with the very best hardware, and what is so blatantly not possible under any normal circumstance.

Other online games, such as World of Warcraft, DO ban players found to be using something like this cheat engine software. They look for signs that they can move far faster than should be possible.

The problem is that it doesn't actually tamper with the client, it affects the entire OS by altering some underlying Windows functions. It can also mess up your OS which might require a reinstall. It's a lot of trouble for a $10 prize.

 

[weesie]

The problem comes in determining what is possible with the very best hardware, and what is so blatantly not possible under any normal circumstance.



The problem is that it doesn't actually tamper with the client, it affects the entire OS by altering some underlying Windows functions. It can also mess up your OS which might require a reinstall. It's a lot of trouble for a $10 prize.

I agree with it possibly causing a problem with your computer and that is part of the reason I am asking about it.

If it was a one time occurence, I wouldn't wonder so much. However, I have seen it about 4 maybe 5 times........... always the same player.

Peaked my interest.

 

[cpdnd31]

This issue was addressed in chat today. So much so I went on sons gamer computer. I played with it in normal mode not overclocked or dedicated and I was able to spin 3 to 4 x faster then all the others. So now add a dedicated high speed internet and there ya go your question had been answered again. The problem is that no one is happy with the result. Well if you want to spin like that go spend the 4 grand I spent on sons computer add a dedicated server line and win your ten dollars.

They have audited this players acct 3 times by 3 different reps and still not good enough. Those of us that had gamer computers spun today just to show the difference still not a good enough answer. i guess the only thing to do is not play, or go buy a gamer computer of your own.


Sorry if I seem mean but like I said we spent all morning trying to explain this in chat and really I thought the issue was closed.

 

[1366613]

This issue was addressed in chat today. So much so I went on sons gamer computer. I played with it in normal mode not overclocked or dedicated and I was able to spin 3 to 4 x faster then all the others. So now add a dedicated high speed internet and there ya go your question had been answered again. The problem is that no one is happy with the result. Well if you want to spin like that go spend the 4 grand I spent on sons computer add a dedicated server line and win your ten dollars.

They have audited this players acct 3 times by 3 different reps and still not good enough. Those of us that had gamer computers spun today just to show the difference still not a good enough answer. i guess the only thing to do is not play, or go buy a gamer computer of your own.


Sorry if I seem mean but like I said we spent all morning trying to explain this in chat and really I thought the issue was closed.

Hi there, just only to say you must have a happy sons ;-) (im sure sons deserve it ;-)) and mom too now mom can win $10

 

[cpdnd31]

LOL Son and yes I love the big kid. I dont use it. I only went on it today to try and help explain the difference.

 

[weesie]

This issue was addressed in chat today. So much so I went on sons gamer computer. I played with it in normal mode not overclocked or dedicated and I was able to spin 3 to 4 x faster then all the others. So now add a dedicated high speed internet and there ya go your question had been answered again. The problem is that no one is happy with the result. Well if you want to spin like that go spend the 4 grand I spent on sons computer add a dedicated server line and win your ten dollars.

They have audited this players acct 3 times by 3 different reps and still not good enough. Those of us that had gamer computers spun today just to show the difference still not a good enough answer. i guess the only thing to do is not play, or go buy a gamer computer of your own.


Sorry if I seem mean but like I said we spent all morning trying to explain this in chat and really I thought the issue was closed.

Choc, I do not want to get into this with you. I did not mention names here and It is a VALID question in my book.

I don't think people were convinced with the explanation but when you get practically ATTACKED for trying to understand how only ONE person can "clock" so much more in wagers.

And I do believe anyone questioning it were clearly wondering how it is possible because it has happened 4-5 times in just the last several months.

I put it here at CM because I figured it could be truly discussed without the "restraints" in the casino.

And yes, you do sound mean and abrasive ........ people still have the RIGHT to ask questions here at CM, whether you like the topic or not.

Unless That casino has an "ownership investment" in this forum, I believe this is a subject that CAN be discussed freely.

Don't like it? Don't read it!

Next?

 

[cpdnd31]

The reason I sound abrasive is there were 4 of us trying to explain and show you guys in chat today how it is possible. However no one wants to accept this answer as true. No one wants to believe the results so this keeps getting rehashed 100 times over. Just because you don't like the answer does not mean the answer is wrong. You have every right to ask the question just like I have every right to explain a little more to others here why you have asked the question and how many times you have asked the question and that this questioned has been looked into many many many many many times.

Like I said 4 of us wasted out fricken morning trying to explain it to people oh and one person didn't even have enough manners to sat Thank You no instead they smart off to me and leave chat. So yeah I guess I m bitchy and and kinda pissed that I wasted my time trying to help ungrateful people once again.

Now go ahead waste some other peoples time --

 

[rena35]

My son says that a gaming computer can be built for much less if you know about computers which he does. This is my first time hearing about a gaming computer at all. I was not playing when this happened so i can not add to that part. From what he is telling me, that is what he uses when he practices for the tournaments he plays and often wins for the big competition he plays against other players for top prizes. Sometimes these prizes are big money. Street fighter and Marvel VS Cap com is some of the tournaments he plays. I did ask him about this topic and he says in his opinion it can give a player an advantage. My thoughts are, even if i had one of those fancy computers, i probably would still be in the bottom .

 

[weesie]

Well, I didn't leave because of you, if you are referring to me. I left because I was insulted to be called out when I was NOT the one who started it today.


I even know who did but not going to say.

And as far as all the ...... "it's just a $10.00 tournament", I remember many, many times where players have boasted about winning big on those little tournament wins. So, maybe that's a reason people wonder.

As for 4 people trying to explain, I read it differently......... more with questions than answers.

I can't hit anything with $50, I seriously doubt I could do any good with their $10.

Most times, I am playing in real play. I also invest in the buy-in.

I play tournaments when real play is cruel or when I am just bored.

Regardless.........

 

[cpdnd31]

No there was another member she asked all these ?s even asked me to explain it all and i did -- then made rude comment to me and left because I was able to explain it all. It pissed me off majorly. I never ever mind helping people- its who I am -- however i do mind helping and then getting smacked for doing it.

 

[petro]

And as far as all the ...... "it's just a $10.00 tournament"...

I won close to $1k from winning tournies at 3Dice. And that was in a very short time as well.
Here is some advice; let the bonuses you win add up. When you have about $50 in bonuses saved use them at the same time. You decrease the chance of busting then.

If my memory serves the WR is only 10xB.

Just ask fordie how much she(?) makes from winning tournies. I bet it would be lots because fordie has 0 competition.

 

[BMWSTACK]

This issue was addressed in chat today.

They have audited this players acct 3 times by 3 different reps and still not good enough. Those of us that had gamer computers spun today just to show the difference still not a good enough answer. i guess the only thing to do is not play, or go buy a gamer computer of your own.


Sorry if I seem mean but like I said we spent all morning trying to explain this in chat and really I thought the issue was closed.

I can probably imagine how this issue played out on 3dice. I see how some of the people act on 3dice when they are on a losing streak or conspiracy issue. The player in question probably felt pretty isolated while this was going on.

Choc, I do not want to get into this with you. And I do believe anyone questioning it were clearly wondering how it is possible because it has happened 4-5 times in just the last several months.

I put it here at CM because I figured it could be truly discussed without the "restraints" in the casino.

And yes, you do sound mean and abrasive ........ people still have the RIGHT to ask questions here at CM, whether you like the topic or not.

Unless That casino has an "ownership investment" in this forum, I believe this is a subject that CAN be discussed freely.

Don't like it? Don't read it!

Next?

You don't have to "get into it" to have a discussion.

You have posted this in the 3dice forum which has a lot less restraints than here. Of course we can ask questions here, but I assume Choc has seen it play out in Chat, on the 3dice forum and now here, her reaction is probably based upon seeing this petty thing continuing to go on and on. I do not really see where Choc sounded mean and abrasive.

3dice puts on tournaments for free. Of course everyone wants to see it fair, but at the same time it really seems so stressful to have to blow this out of proportion. Really takes the fun out of what the entertainment is. I am basing this upon the prior post on 3dice forum, the discussion had in chat today, and now this. Just seems like not letting the issue go, which based upon the answers from the first time it came up it really seems like a non issue.

 

[vinylweatherman]

The problem is that unless there is solid evidence of cheating, what can 3Dice do? They can't ban players just because they have spent a stupid amount on a gaming rig and dedicated line. If the player is using a speed up engine on a basic rig, he is making sure not to crank it up so damn high it's bleedin' obvious that he is cheating.

If it turns out that 3Dice don't have a problem with it, then join in, cheat engine is free for the basic version, although it has to be reset all the time. Better still would be to get a copy of the core functions that do the speeding up and compile them as a stand alone module, this way there is less chance of buggering up other parts of the OS with game specific cheats.

However, different game operators have different rules, and it seems that online role playing games crack down pretty hard on anything that gives someone an unfair advantage, even if it's some crazy bespoke hardware.


Maybe this chap needs taking down a peg or two just to show that he isn't the "owner" of the 3Dice tournaments.


3Dice don't have a UK licence by any chance........

 

[weesie]

I can probably imagine how this issue played out on 3dice. I see how some of the people act on 3dice when they are on a losing streak or conspiracy issue. The player in question probably felt pretty isolated while this was going on.




You don't have to "get into it" to have a discussion.

You have posted this in the 3dice forum which has a lot less restraints than here. Of course we can ask questions here, but I assume Choc has seen it play out in Chat, on the 3dice forum and now here, her reaction is probably based upon seeing this petty thing continuing to go on and on. I do not really see where Choc sounded mean and abrasive.

3dice puts on tournaments for free. Of course everyone wants to see it fair, but at the same time it really seems so stressful to have to blow this out of proportion. Really takes the fun out of what the entertainment is. I am basing this upon the prior post on 3dice forum, the discussion had in chat today, and now this. Just seems like not letting the issue go, which based upon the answers from the first time it came up it really seems like a non issue.

Yes, it has been discussed.

I used the screen shots as a description ...................... in order to ask:

"What kind of computer and internet connection I needed to replicate said results?"

That is all that needed to be answered.

Also, with the derail............ I never really got an answer. i.e. name brand, size, etc.

 

[cpdnd31]

Well their are different brands --- and price points -- so its a hard question to answer --go to dell and look at the alien ware desktop top of the line then add options and you will get an idea -- or google monster or green machine i think were the others or google hi tech gamers computer built for speed -- that will help you a lot.

 

[weesie]

Thank you!

It is the closest thing I have gotten to an answer!

 

[secret2]

I just have to intercept here and say, I am happy, too..phew.

 

[randomiam]

speed up whats being sent and loading on pc

a ssd as a main hard drive might help let me play slot games just that tad faster if there a heavy game download casinos
everything like that is limited to site speed and refresh speed

 

[Kelly Jo]

No there was another member she asked all these ?s even asked me to explain it all and i did -- then made rude comment to me and left because I was able to explain it all. It pissed me off majorly. I never ever mind helping people- its who I am -- however i do mind helping and then getting smacked for doing it.

Guess what... TRY AGAIN. Since I am here, maybe you'd like the opportunity to restate what ACTUALLY happened? I am not pleased. Try again. -key

 

[BMWSTACK]

Guess what... TRY AGAIN. Since I am here, maybe you'd like the opportunity to restate what ACTUALLY happened? I am not pleased. Try again. -key

Cpnd never mentioned any names. I am not sure what happened, and sure others also don't. It seems personal so it would be probably best for you to discuss it in a PM.

 

[Kelly Jo]

Cpnd never mentioned any names. I am not sure what happened, and sure others also don't. It seems personal so it would be probably best for you to discuss it in a PM.

We have. Imagine my surprise to stumble upon this during my 1st visit into these forums...
I apologize for my reaction.

 

[cpdnd31]

I am just going to state this. After helping this person for about an hour. She says in main chat-- in caps if I remember correctly - so what are your CREDENTIALS. Then before I can reply this same person says PFFFFT and leaves.

Now those that know me know I will not take be treated in that manner especially when I WENT OUT OF MY WAY TO HELP SOMEONE --ONCE AGAIN.

NEVER HAVE I EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT HELPING ANYONE-- HOWEVER I WILL NOT TAKE AN INSULT AFTER DOING IT.

So that night in chat i told her in main since that is where she insulted me that I would like an apology. When she said no I said OK well I think you are ignorant and rude. Then She pm d me on 3 dice and we discussed it. I don't think she realized that she insulted me, and I left it at that.

However now that this person has jumped to another forum and called me out here I guess she is making this personal --

I tried to help you, you didn't like my answer OH WELL - I suggest you leave it at that. I won't mud sling here that's not what this forum is about.

Now in writing this i get a pm from her here:



*
I am not sure how your interpretation of events can be so off.
I never once addressed a question to you, Choc.
I did not even acknowledge you except to ask for your credentials.

In fact, my entire purpose for responding to ANNA was because I did not
feel that she handled the situation properly.

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL SITUATION, ITSELF.

I have a string of emails to validate my stance.

Also- where are the ss to provide substance to your claim? Which tourney did you play on your son's computer?

I have been kind and respectful to you.
You have manufactured this entire situation all on you own.
It is a figment of your narcissistic view.
I don't know who you think you are or what credentials you have... and until you provide
me with information that lends weight to ANYTHING you have to say, I will ask that you don't bother.


First off who the hell do you think you are? Like I really have to tell you how much schooling or experience I have in the casino world?

You never said CHOC HELP or EXPLAIN this in main chat? LOL I call BULLSHIT!

Where they hell were you when I was playing the tourny in MAIN CHAT with ANNA and everyone else.

You have not been respectful to me- and if this is your idea of respect-then lady go back to school.

I have a narcissistic view -- well I will take that as a compliment coming from a women who doesn't even know the definition of the word respect.

LOL I won't bother to help you any more - and Do NOT PM HERE OR AT 3 DICE.

Now I slung the mud back and stoop to the lowest level here only because She pm d me.

It will stop from this point on. Imagine a newbies first post is to personally attack me..... WOW

 

[Tirilej]

I suggest you remove those private pm's. They are suppose to be private.
If they are so horrible you should report them to Bryan, but please don't post them in here.

 

[petro]

These 3Dice threads are the best.

 

[The Dude]

These 3Dice threads are the best.

This is not a 3Dice thread - it was about computer speed and it just got seriously hijacked.

cpdnd31 - you should know better than posting PMs - that is a violation of rule 1.13 - infraction given.

Kelly Jo - please do not hijack threads with personal agenda - infraction given.

Thread closed due to it's a weekend and I am not going to babysit the forum. I'll reopen it on Monday when I'm back to work.