that damn reversebutton

[gimmi85]

i just wont to write off some bad feeling and note this is nota complaint or something like that..

Last saturday i deposited 50€ on netbet.com and hade a really good session and manegd to incriase my deposit to 12000 euros. after that i requsted a whitdrawal and did know that netbet have a 48hours pendingtime. i waited and after 48hours the requested printscreen on my new card again im allready verifired but yes i sent them printscreen on the card and they got aproved. the. 48hour got 72-96-120. after it have goes 72hours the did not answer me more on email or chat. they said they was cheking sonethibg for security but i did not use bonus and have made whidrawal from them eralyer without delay or problems. so as stupid and addicted that i am under this 120hours for not reverse whitdrawal i deposited round 3.5k euros on site and lost i also reversed the whitdrawal on 12k and lost it. i know and accept that is conpletly my own foult. but what is so sad in this is that an hour after i loost the 12k the send me a mail. that on my next deposit the wont to spoil me with a bonus on 50%. the did not answer when i had it pending but after i lost it they send this to me rally bad

 

[goatwack]

I'm absolutely sick of people getting to thousands with small deposits!

I know I'm unlikely to ever get there doing 40p spins, and I almost soiled myself doing £1.80 bets the other day having built up my balance, but just for once I want to get a 10K cashout from a £20 deposit.

Any tips would be appreciated,

thankyou

 

[gimmi85]

in sorry that u are sik of me. i havent don u something bad. u dont know me u dont know how much i deposit or how i play. when u make 1000€ u make a cashout? i start betting 50€spin and sometime it work so pleas friend dont judge

 

[goatwack]

in sorry that u are sik of me. i havent don u something bad. u dont know me u dont know how much i deposit or how i play. when u make 1000€ u make a cashout? i start betting 50€spin and sometime it work so pleas friend dont judge

I'd be quicker to that cashout button than Linford Christie at a lunchbox convention

 

[gimmi85]

hahaha

 

[nutnut]

This thread angers me, how the **** do you get from 50 euro deposit to 12k, i can't get to 500 never mind 12k. And god forbid hell freezes over and I did, i would never reverse it. How did you lose 3.5k and then reverse and lose 12k, that would take me a week to lose that much. ridiculous that anyone can do such a thing, he saying more money than sense spring to mind.

 

[nutnut]

I'm absolutely sick of people getting to thousands with small deposits!

I know I'm unlikely to ever get there doing 40p spins, and I almost soiled myself doing £1.80 bets the other day having built up my balance, but just for once I want to get a 10K cashout from a £20 deposit.

Any tips would be appreciated,

thankyou

Im convinced no one ever wins when they raise stakes, I'm like you, bet 20p/40p and get a sweat, i won £70 off min bet on spiderman other day. One day i thought oh let me be risky and do £1 a bet on JACK AND THE BEANSTALK. I was like i'll never hit bonus round with higher stakes and to my shock I did within 10 spins, so of course i get excited...........

60p i won 60 dam pence off £1 stake on the bonus round, what a complete bastard troll slots are. so raging i did stake next up with what i had left and hit bonu round again within few spins, i thought ok now is my time, i won a measly £4 or so off it, even worse when you think about it.

my conclusion is slots are trolls and they only people who win big are people who reverse it anyway.

 

[gimmi85]

betting 50€ spinn on gonzo dosent take so much time to loose it. the funny thing is that i got frefalls on 40€ bet both time it paid 15xbet. then i got them again on 50€bet and on the scond frefalls 20more it paid 3900€. i allways play like this deposit 50-300€ if i come up to 1000 i spin 50. ut has workd fine 12000k royal panda. 8 intercasino and 10k betat.

 

[gimmi85]

but i know im stupid 12k is big money i couldnt servive netbet won i loost. i have cashout from that site around 14k never took more than 48hours. the did know i will rewers it and just waited. yes i agrre im stupid and i deserve it maybe. but u dont treat customers like this.

 

[dunover]

i just wont to write off some bad feeling and note this is nota complaint or something like that..

Last saturday i deposited 50€ on netbet.com and hade a really good session and manegd to incriase my deposit to 12000 euros. after that i requsted a whitdrawal and did know that netbet have a 48hours pendingtime. i waited and after 48hours the requested printscreen on my new card again im allready verifired but yes i sent them printscreen on the card and they got aproved. the. 48hour got 72-96-120. after it have goes 72hours the did not answer me more on email or chat. they said they was cheking sonethibg for security but i did not use bonus and have made whidrawal from them eralyer without delay or problems. so as stupid and addicted that i am under this 120hours for not reverse whitdrawal i deposited round 3.5k euros on site and lost i also reversed the whitdrawal on 12k and lost it. i know and accept that is conpletly my own foult. but what is so sad in this is that an hour after i loost the 12k the send me a mail. that on my next deposit the wont to spoil me with a bonus on 50%. the did not answer when i had it pending but after i lost it they send this to me rally bad

Netbet (not to be confused with good casinos of a similar name) were one of only 2 casinos I ever PAB'd but for a different reason, bonus related and incomplete terms. They were applying for accreditation at the time (or at least getting a presence up here with a rep IIRC) and they actually posted my rewriting of their unclear bonus terms (hence my moniker has 'unofficial T&C's editor) but never paid me and then vanished from the forum. They ripped-off iNetbet's logo too and it caused great mirth when people spotted it here.

Yes, reverse/pending periods:

EXIST FOR ONE REASON ALONE, NO DEBATE, NO ARGUMENT, NO TRANSACTION FEE BS, NO 'PLAYER CONVENIENCE' OR ANY OTHER SHITE THE CASINOS SPEW OUT ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY EXIST FOR THE VERY REASON IN THE OP'S POST - IN THIS CASE IT MADE A 12K DEBT INTO A 3.5K PROFIT FOR THEM - THAT TELLS YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.

IT'S THERE TO EXPLOIT GAMBLER PSYCHOLOGY, SO THEY CAN PLAY AGAIN AFTER THE COME-DOWN FROM THEIR WIN!!!!!! NO OTHER REASON!!

IF YOU WIN 12.5K AND THEY DON'T LET YOU REVERSE IT FOR DAYS, THEY KNOW YOU'LL WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER GO AND IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY YOU'LL HAVE 12.5K OF YOUR OWN MONEY LEFT TO DEPOSIT, PROBABLY A FEW HUNDRED AT BEST - THAT'S NO GOOD TO THEM, THEY WANT THE WHOLE FUCKING 12.5K BACK, HENCE THE PISSING PENDING PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!

AND YES!!!!!! IT'S A KNOWN TACTIC BY SHITHOUSE OPERATIONS LIKE NETBET TO DELIBERATELY STALL AND OBSTRUCT THE WITHDRAWAL PROCESS AFTER THE PENDING PERIOD FOR BIG WINNERS, USING PLAUSIBLE EXCUSES REGARDING KYC, PROCESSOR ISSUES OR WHATEVER OTHER BOLLOCKS THEY CAN COME UP WITH.

Grrr....................

Why do you think I started promoting fast paying casinos this year? If a casino can't be arsed to pay within 24 hours then don't deposit there. Simples. There are NO excuses for pending periods of days any more. A good casino pays within the day. A mediocre one within 2 days. Anything over 2 days don't deserve a player depositing a dump there, let alone money.

 

[gimmi85]

i cashed out from royalpanda and betat similars cashout whitouts problems. but this thing netbet did is wry rude. im mos angry about that after 1hour i lost the money the did reply that they wont to SPOIL me with a deposit bonus. i respekt the 48hours but when it hoes 72-96 thats is really to much and i am allready veriferid.do someone know wich securtity thing they where cheking? sorry for bad english

 

[goatwack]

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, and we never truly know what our session-peak truly is, but once 'banked' I would be popping champagne corks and not let such an opportunity pass by. I can always squander it another time eek but surely only once it's in my bank account!

Impulse goes against common sense, and no one wants the buzz to stop. As a rule I'd have ONE cheeky reversal of maybe £20 here and there but never to the tune of 3.5K. That sort of figure keeps my girlfriend quiet for weeks

 

[RichyJ75]

I feel the pain, I honestly do! The easiest way to get over it is just say to yourself you lost 50 euros and not 12k, coz at the end of the day, you had loads of play time for 50 euros!

I now hate the 48+ hour pending state of withdrawals and like you, I had an account at netbet and the withdrawal took far in excess of 48 hours and ended up reversing and losing the withdrawal. I then promptly self excluded - quite simply because yes, it is a problem with gambling in this scenario! This is now one reason I primarily play at casinos with minimal/no reverse withdrawal period time as that is what I am comfortable with. I am happy with anything up to a 24 hour pending period as that way you can see light at the end of the tunnel and know it will be dealt with promptly.

And on that note, big thumbs up to Videoslots for processing/locking my withdrawal within an hour or so after my withdrawal request earlier today. This is why I will return in due course and naturally you will get this money back over time as a token of my appreciation!!

 

[dunover]

I feel the pain, I honestly do! The easiest way to get over it is just say to yourself you lost 50 euros and not 12k, coz at the end of the day, you had loads of play time for 50 euros!

I now hate the 48+ hour pending state of withdrawals and like you, I had an account at netbet and the withdrawal took far in excess of 48 hours and ended up reversing and losing the withdrawal. I then promptly self excluded - quite simply because yes, it is a problem with gambling in this scenario! This is now one reason I primarily play at casinos with minimal/no reverse withdrawal period time as that is what I am comfortable with. I am happy with anything up to a 24 hour pending period as that way you can see light at the end of the tunnel and know it will be dealt with promptly.

And on that note, big thumbs up to Videoslots for processing/locking my withdrawal within an hour or so after my withdrawal request earlier today. This is why I will return in due course and naturally you will get this money back over time as a token of my appreciation!!

Well that's the whole point - players will come back and spend again and stay loyal if the casinos pays them fast. Simple. Agreed. But some sites put greed ahead of player retention. The OP should SE or close his account there.

P.S. If you read his post he left the 12k pending and deposited another 3.5k rather than reverse, so he lost more than £50!

 

[gimmi85]

no i did not just loos 50€ i depositet while it was pending round 3.5k euros just not to reverse it. im a big idiot and i deserve hearing it hehe

 

[spintee]

Thief's, Plain and simple, It bloody annoys me when sites hold on to your cash,

Perfectly fine when depositing, Every thing is good, I bet even when you get over the three hold, of a few k they will still let you deposit, So its ok to deposits thousands but want I.D when withdraw,

So its perfectly acceptable them taking god knows what cash but when its time to pay out than they start worrying that your not legit ???

Whats all this about so called responsible gambling? As soon as you withdraw that should the end of the story, This should be on the U.KG.C top pority list, All withdraws should be auto locked,

If this ever come into affect I will guarantee sites will soon start paying out quicker than a bolt of lightning, Than start advertising the super fast payouts, and how responsible they are that funds are auto locked,

I remember a few years when they knocked off the casino name from another site,

Now going back to 50 and turning it in to K's, People get a win than up bets, and end up betting more than they deposit, You have to know when to quit other wise you will eventually bust out, And you got to think with your head on, No point betting £18 or DOA when a £4.50 will bring in a mega hit if you got it decent hit,

 

[gimmi85]

the intercasino is good because when i won 8k there i could set a losslimit and hade my money.the only thing is that the have maxcashout 5k and only to skrill ho tooke 340 euros to convert to SEK.

 

[RichyJ75]

Apologies, quick reading and interpreted it at reversing 3.5k then losing it all.

Yes, false sense of security depositing more when you know/believe there is a larger amount coming back.

 

[gimmi85]

i can forget the win and i can take the loost because its gambling i could have been lucky and win another 12k. but whats make me sad is the mail the send tomme about the deposit bonus on 50% and that just to SPOIL me. what a joke

 

[spintee]

Apologies, quick reading and interpreted it at reversing 3.5k then losing it all.

Yes, false sense of security depositing more when you know/believe there is a larger amount coming back.

Nether ever do that unless you know the funds are 100% secure and on there way,

I done it lots of times but we are talking small change here, Instead of reversing and taking longer just deposit abit more, But when taking thousands than NO WAY, I would advise to people that normally reverse abit and you get free cash outs than instead of withdraw the lot than do more smaller withdraws at once, than if you get the urge just reverse one of the small withdraws, This is not an excuse to reverse but a back up,

 

[spintee]

i can forget the win and i can take the loost because its gambling i could have been lucky and win another 12k. but whats make me sad is the mail the send tomme about the deposit bonus on 50% and that just to SPOIL me. what a joke

It is a joke, I bet you will get another email now saying your account is verified, So if you win you can take straight out, Untill you win again than they use the same excuse,

You would of thought they would of give you some free spins or some cash at least,

 

[goatwack]

i can forget the win and i can take the loost because its gambling i could have been lucky and win another 12k. but whats make me sad is the mail the send tomme about the deposit bonus on 50% and that just to SPOIL me. what a joke

I agree, that is just adding insult to injury

 

[gimmi85]

i was allready veriferied. but i have changed
my mastercard and they did wont a prinsceeen i did it and send it the i giot that cleard thats is aproved.then a askt him i they can do the cashout because it has been 72hours he said no we have to make some security cheks for bigger cashout. i dont know wich security chek. i deposit ooen the game setllte the bet and press spins hehe. the i think as u do tjey ate talking about the resposeble gaming but they have the reversebutton.

 

[gimmi85]

sorry for really rally avful english guys. hope u understand me

 

[nachhaltig]

I feel you. Had the same situation twice. On the first casino I made a deposit of 200€ and got, if I remember correctly, 300€ Bonus (balance of 500€). After Wagering was complete, I had a Balance of 2200€ on my Account. Guess what - it took them over a week to verify my Documents. Have another guess who reversed the withdrawl before he got verified.

Well and I bet you know who lost it all Really cruel experience. As a student you can use 2200€ very good.


Casino 2: I made a deposit of 200€ got 400% Bonus which you cant withdraw after completing wagering (reading t&c's can be helpful sometimes). I was lucky enough to a) get one good Bonus on 300 shields. b) comple the wagering of ~15000€ without a drop in my balance and c) make a withdraw of 1900€.

This Casino drove me nuts. Processing time for Withdrawls were 5 days. They asked for weired documents to proof my identity. They advised me to send them a notary copy of my ID-Card. To make long story short - I waited 5 weeks for my Withdrawl to be on my bank account but for gods sake, I didn't reversed it even though I was thinking about it.
It didn't made any sense to me why the fuck they need 5 Weeks to send me the money. Dunover's words opened my eyes. I am feeling like a little naive kid now

 

[lockinlove]

Im convinced no one ever wins when they raise stakes, I'm like you, bet 20p/40p and get a sweat, i won £70 off min bet on spiderman other day.

I announced awhile back I was testing this theory. So far I am at 68,000 spins on low bets vs high bets.

I will say with absolute certainty in regards to netent and MG slots, they play on a different server when betting high. it must trigger something so the casino is protected by the providers so they dont lose a mountain load.

The most telling thing is how the slot will INSTANTLY change. You do .50 find a hot slot. Raise your bets to $6+ and the slot will not only go ice cold you will go through an incredible amount of dead spins with a few 10x wins here and there.


The reverse option is absolutely evil. I have blown tonnes of balances doing this. Tonnes.

 

[gimmi85]

my session on netbet was like this. start bet 3€ when i was down to round 35€ i fott frefalls it paid about 45euro. then i increased my bet to 5€ frefalls after a cuople of spins git the frefalls bonus and it paid 2020€ then i started beting 10 got the frefalls on 10€ belivi it or not i paid 67€ so i rais my bet to 20 went down to 110? and the fot the frespins it paid 4200 raised to 30 got the frefalls again and it paid about 900?€ kept on playin and got to 13400€ and made a cashout and that cashout is for now history. i just need to find another slot to highroll because gonzo on bets over 30€ is a real shit

 

[gimmi85]

dont get me wrong its not my wish to blaklist the casinor or what so ever i just erite this post her bacuse pepople here understand better then reallife hhehe

 

[Deeplay]

I'm absolutely sick of people getting to thousands with small deposits!

I know I'm unlikely to ever get there doing 40p spins, and I almost soiled myself doing £1.80 bets the other day having built up my balance, but just for once I want to get a 10K cashout from a £20 deposit.

Any tips would be appreciated,

thankyou

 

[slotter999]

Feel bad for the OP. I don't know enough about the casino to make an informed decision but on the basis of what you typed I can't see a situation where I'd go back and give them more or my money.

One of the more interesting things I find about your post is the aggressiveness you take towards slots and something which seems to be more common amongst Scandinavian players. I am planning to do some work on exploring this concept in more detail and I'm particularly interested in aggressive betting styles on netents. I might be a few months away from having the data I need to take a view but if it's interesting it's something I will share. The question I'm curious to understand is how possible is it to go from 100eur to 100,000eur and how much of a perfect play is required to do it?

 

[gimmi85]

its nothing about scandinavian players as u say. i deposit allways between 50-300 sometimes 500. i never bet less than 3euros and ofcourse when i win a win big but also when im in a badrun i can deposit 2000-3000euros. like this weekend i have been on a really bad run and deposited abour 4k euros without a cashout. the bet has been 30-50€ and i only play gonzo or flowers

 

[gimmi85]

And no i will never go back ti netbet more. i still have 11000k euro profit from the site but after this i was really awful to the support on chat wich i regret because usual i think im a nice guy but i was so upset that the did not procest my whitdrawal on atleast 72hours.

 

[Deeplay]

its nothing about scandinavian players as u say. i deposit allways between 50-300 sometimes 500. i never bet less than 3euros and ofcourse when i win a win big but also when im in a badrun i can deposit 2000-3000euros. like this weekend i have been on a really bad run and deposited abour 4k euros without a cashout. the bet has been 30-50€ and i only play gonzo or flowers

Wow you mean you play to 30 to 50 euros per spin ? and on 2 of the most extreme Netent games as well ? I can see why with such betting patterns you will get the odd time where a smallish deposit will pay something insane but I would also say its kind of a guarantee that "most" of the time you could expect to bust out and pretty quickly .... unless I mis-read something above

 

[gimmi85]

yes i bust but this month has been sick. and iwe cashed out about 25k euros and deposited 15k heheh. but for now i will take a break and try to find a better slot than that shitty breakdancing gonzo hehe

 

[goatwack]

I wouldn't touch Gonzo with 40 pence, nevermind £30+ spins

In fact I don't think I'd trust any slot playing such high stakes, especially Netent with their 'special' variance.

Don't really fancy losing 100K before making 110K

 

[gimmi85]

u are totaly right. Gonzo has raped me this wekend and i dont know what wrong with the game it dosent even fel like a highwairiance game anymore. and now when u get the goldcoin u dont trigger a bonus u trigger deadspins. so if anyone has a good tip for a nice slot on big bets bring it one

 

[goatwack]

u are totaly right. Gonzo has raped me this wekend and i dont know what wrong with the game it dosent even fel like a highwairiance game anymore. and now when u get the goldcoin u dont trigger a bonus u trigger deadspins. so if anyone has a good tip for a nice slot on big bets bring it one

Dead or Alive on 9p.

On your budget you could go for years

 

[lockinlove]

I wouldn't touch Gonzo with 40 pence, nevermind £30+ spins

In fact I don't think I'd trust any slot playing such high stakes, especially Netent with their 'special' variance.

Don't really fancy losing 100K before making 110K

yeah that is really crazy bets. Highest I do on gonzo is $2 and even then I dont feel comfortable. But what I love the most is tonight it took 232 spins on gonzo for me to get the feature at that bet and it paid 4x.

If net ent want to be filthy greedy pigs at least be sly about it. If a player goes hundreds of spins to get a feature they should get a prize guarentee of 25x if the feature pays shit.

 

[gimmi85]

hahahaha i tryed that game a couple of times on 7.2 but i just dont think that game is funny. flowers i really funny but wery hard to get a decent win on it. book of dead was funny it gave me the book a lot of time on 10€bet but the highest win was 800€ really shitty win

 

[gimmi85]

when i got 67€ on a 10bet on gonzo frefalls was the first time i wonted to cry hehehe.

 

[gimmi85]

i post tu much i know! but have u notice that it is much eazyer to trigger 20frispins now days than it was before. because now even a 20frefals can guve u 14-20xbet

 

[Deeplay]

yeah that is really crazy bets. Highest I do on gonzo is $2 and even then I dont feel comfortable. But what I love the most is tonight it took 232 spins on gonzo for me to get the feature at that bet and it paid 4x.

If net ent want to be filthy greedy pigs at least be sly about it. If a player goes hundreds of spins to get a feature they should get a prize guarentee of 25x if the feature pays shit.

Gonzo oh Gonzo a horror of a game. I never go in now with more than 100 spins and max bet is £2 and only if im up .... it has massive potential but has in the past destroyed my balance. Remember 6 months ago foolishly chasing the FS at virgin ... went something like 800 spins then my balance hit zero .... never ever again

 

[Deeplay]

yes i bust but this month has been sick. and iwe cashed out about 25k euros and deposited 15k heheh. but for now i will take a break and try to find a better slot than that shitty breakdancing gonzo hehe

Well each to there own but with such big deposits why not go for a slot which is not so extreme ... mid or low to mid variance ? I have played for example Elements loads the past 2 months and its not so hard to trigger the FS and base game wins come frequently and has good hit potential in the bonus round. .... just my opinion

 

[goatwack]

There's a handful of Netent games that are terrible for chasing and going on long dry spells.

Number 1 is Gonzo, by far. We've all gone 100s of spins trying to get that bonus when it's cold.

Followed by Jack and the Beanstalk, another evil game that will have your soul.

And let's not forget Creature from the Black Lagoon, another balance-destroyer.

These games can produce amazing hits and streaks on their day. When in 'off' mode though they're essentially Netent shares boosters

 

[gimmi85]

i dont know maybe im wrong. but when i play it if i dont hit the bonuz on the first 50 spins i close the game and open a new session. if i trigger the bonus 2 times on the 100-150 first spins i allways allways raise the bet because most of the time it had workd fine. as i day maybe its just in my mind because tvey are random even if it sometime dosent fell like it. but one thing i have noticed and think its really starnge after i have win big. is that the behavor on the slot is exaktly the same on every casino i play at. and when i win i win on all casinos i play. one i play on mobile 1on ipadwin big or go home hehehe or be stupid likke me and reverse 13k whitdrawal and on top of that deposit 3.5k euros

 

[gimmi85]

Well each to there own but with such big deposits why not go for a slot which is not so extreme ... mid or low to mid variance ? I have played for example Elements loads the past 2 months and its not so hard to trigger the FS and base game wins come frequently and has good hit potential in the bonus round. .... just my opinion

yes but in my mind im waiting for the blue masks on 15x on 50€bet wich is never foing to happen but if it does i buy ice cream to all members here

 

[gimmi85]

what do u guys think about my gamingstile, i deposit let say 100 and raize it to 1000-2000 snd raize the bet massive if i win i win nice if i loose i lose just the deposit

 

[goatwack]

what do u guys think about my gamingstile, i deposit let say 100 and raize it to 1000-2000 snd raize the bet massive if i win i win nice if i loose i lose just the deposit

Terrible, but exciting!

 

[lockinlove]

foolishly chasing the FS at virgin ... went something like 800 spins then my balance hit zero .... never ever again

Sounds like me on GoT

Did 900 spins no feature. So raised bets.

Got destoryed that session. Lost about $1000.00

 

[slotter999]

what do u guys think about my gamingstile, i deposit let say 100 and raize it to 1000-2000 snd raize the bet massive if i win i win nice if i loose i lose just the deposit

I think this might be the only way to ever truly nail a netent slot. I was reading about a guy recently who went from 100 EUR to 96,000eur on Jimmy Hendrix. That must have been a perfect case of the stars aligning or.....maybe that's just how you play it properly. I'm going to do some research and see if I can any sense of it.