Slots that are always high RTP

[Mr Shine]

I haven't exhaustively tested all of them but there are some slots that even if they're in a low-mid RTP operator environment are always high RTP, so probably don't have a nerfed version. What are some examples of these lodestone slots that if you see them, you can be sure that there is ast least 1 high RTP slot available before you even join? These should be non-obsolete, the ones that operators still have hanging around and be at least 96.4% RTP .

My gotos

Playtech: Gaelic Luck, A Night Out, Santa Surprise
Netent: Hotline, Agent Jane Blonde Returns, Secrets of Christmas
Relax: Money Cart, Money Cart 2

These are the only slots I've seen that are a) relatively common even in low RTP operators, b)have an RTP above 96.4 and c)have no nerfed version I've ever seen.

What others are out there?

 

[SCATT3R]

Even if they have lower settings as well, I've found BGaming slots more often than not are offered at the highest - which on some titles is as much as over 97% - in casinos who are otherwise infested with reduced rtp versions.

 

[mcgameboy]

Money Cart games most definitely have 94% versions.

The first time I played Money Cart 4 was at Gala, which has the 94% version.
I was that keen to try it that I was willing to try an "inferior" version out just to satisfy my curiosity.

Bet365 (which was one of only three of my regular haunts to have Cart and Train games at the highest RTP) used to have all their Train AND Cart games running at the highest RTP, up until the end of March this year.

Which IIRC was 96.2, 96.4, 96.1 and 96.1 for Trains 1, 2, 3 and 4 and 98, 98, 96 and 96 for Carts 1, 2, 3 and 4.

But now it is 94, 96.4, 94 and 94 for Trains 1 to 4 and 98, 98, 94 and 94 for Carts 1 to 4.

Needless to say, my Train and Cart play at Bet365 has nosedived/all but vanished since those changes*

* I should clarify that I do play the 94% version of ONLY Cart 4 occasionally.
Just not at Bet365 (greedy bastids).

 

[Mr Shine]

Even if they have lower settings as well, I've found BGaming slots more often than not are offered at the highest - which on some titles is as much as over 97% - in casinos who are otherwise infested with reduced rtp versions.

I can't play BGaming in the UK, but if they do have nerfed versions, however rare, they wouldn't be the lodestone slots I'm talking about.

Money Cart games most definitely have 94% versions.

MC and MC2? I know MC3 and MC4 are nerfed.

 

[mcgameboy]

I can't play BGaming in the UK, but if they do have nerfed versions, however rare, they wouldn't be the lodestone slots I'm talking about.

MC and MC2? I know MC3 and MC4 are nerfed.

Yes MC1 and 2 as well mate (at Bet365 anyway).

I have accounts at 32Red, Bet365, Lottomart, MrQ, Paddy Power, PlayOjo, Sky Vegas, SlotsTemple and FIVE Entain Group sites (Bwin, Coral, Gala, Party Casino and SportingBet).

Just going off the top of my head, I am fairly sure that the Entain sites only have Trains 3 and 4 and Carts 3 and 4.
And MAYBE the Slingo version of Train 2. I'm pretty certain they are all at 94%.

MrQ and SlotsTemple appear to be running the highest RTP versions on all 4 Cart and all 4 Train games.

Bet365 has nerfed FIVE of the eight games (as I mentioned in my previous post).

Pretty certain that Paddy Power and Sky Vegas have no Train OR Cart games at all.

32Red has all four Cart and all four Train games, but I think ONLY Cart 2 has the highest RTP (going purely by the games I have marked as "favourites" there).

Lottomart has Trains 2, 3 and 4 and Carts 3 and 4. ALL OF THEM are at 94% RTP.

PlayOjo definitely 2, 3 and 4 on both Train and Cart. Not sure about 1 though.
Their RTP is AFAIK in line with 32Red ie ONLY Cart 2 has the highest RTP. Everything else at 94%.

 

[Mr Shine]

@mcgameboy
You post seems to completely agree with me that if you see Money cart 1 or 2 it will be high rtp. Yet you seem to be phrasing it as a disagreement. I just checked 32red and it's 98 on MC 1 and 2. I can't check Bet365 but I doubt I need to.

I didn't claim any of the Train games were always high RTP and I didn't claim MC and MC2 were always available, just that if they are available they will be high RTP.

Do you have any slots you can add to the list (always high, often available)?

 

[Kroffe]

Older thunderkick slots, i think the cut-off is somewhere around when pink elephants 2 was released.
Older Netents and Blueprint slots tend to also be at 96%, but some of the more popular games do have a 94% version (like DoA for example)

Im basing this off my play at Videoslots, if they have a slot at 96% i have to assume there is no 94% version available.

 

[mcgameboy]

@mcgameboy
You post seems to completely agree with me that if you see Money cart 1 or 2 it will be high rtp. Yet you seem to be phrasing it as a disagreement. I just checked 32red and it's 98 on MC 1 and 2. I can't check Bet365 but I doubt I need to.

I didn't claim any of the Train games were always high RTP and I didn't claim MC and MC2 were always available, just that if they are available they will be high RTP.

Do you have any slots you can add to the list (always high, often available)?

I almost completely agree with you that MC1 and MC2 will be on the higher RTP setting.
I will concede that I didn't actually know MC1 was 98% RTP at 32Red. I merely thought it wasn't (based on my favourites, which I made a point of stressing. Mea culpa on that one).

However....because there is that one place that I know of (Bet365) where it is not at 98%,
I feel it is quite important to mention that for one reason....the extreme increase in the house edge.

Going from 2% to 4% is one thing. But to 6%? That's something folks NEED to be aware of BEFORE playing, not after they have been rinsed into bustout oblivion.

Is Bet365 the one and only casino that has MC1 at 94%? I have absolutely no idea.

I know you didn't claim any of the Train games were always high RTP.
And I was not trying to imply that you were.
I was merely providing some extra information to highlight the clear differences (some of which I found surprising) in place (for both Cart and Train games), depending on where you play.

There's no arguing here on my part. Just adding extra info into the discussion which folks may find useful.

As for other games, god....I am not even sure I know of one for certain.
Maybe Medusa 2, which I think is at 97.07%?*

* But I am uncertain of its availability (I'm sure Entain and PlayOjo have it, but Bet365 and 32Red definitely do not).

 

[09237653]

some older BTG games haven't been hit yet , holy diver, lil devil, book of gods, white rabbit (1), wild flower etc. some have though so always check- bonanza for example has gimped RTP versions now.

same applies to netent, quickspin and thunderkick (older games only) but some have been tampered with so ALWAYS check.

 

[Mr Shine]

some older BTG games haven't been hit yet , holy diver, lil devil, book of gods, white rabbit (1), wild flower etc. some have though so always check- bonanza for example has gimped RTP versions now.

same applies to netent, quickspin and thunderkick (older games only) but some have been tampered with so ALWAYS check.

lil devil is 94% in most places, I don't know about all the others you mention

 

[Mr Shine]

As @Kroffe alluded to, I guess we could narrow it down to slots that are 96.4% or more at Videoslots as we know they'll take any RTP nerf available.

Edit: I guess not, just checked and they have full RTP lil devil. I think BetVictor still works as an RTP nerf yardstick though.

 

[Downsman]

Lil Devil 96% at ST also.

 

[Mr Shine]

Lil Devil 96% at ST also.

Everything is highest RTP at Slots Temple

 

[lukey141]

Bonanza is still the full 96% at most places even when most other games are 92/94

Kroffe is right about the older thunderkick games as well.

 

[Mr Shine]

Bonanza is still 94% at many places. It's not a lodestone game.

 

[lukey141]

Well I can only speak from personal experience because the following casino's have 94% versions of prags, hacksaw, nlc etc but have bonanza at 96 still. I think saying many are at 94% is inaccurate. The only site I've personally come across with 94% was All British Casino and they had 96% up until a few months ago when they nerfed it.

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[Mr Shine]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be snippy. Just clarifying.

 

[Mr Shine]

For UK posters I think a good metric might be: If it's at BetVictor at over 96.4 it's passed the popularity test and the cull test, as I don't think I've seen BV voluntarily keep anything above 96.4% that they CAN nerf recently.

I think that based on this @09237653's suggestion of Wild Flower is good.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Older thunderkick slots, i think the cut-off is somewhere around when pink elephants 2 was released.
Older Netents and Blueprint slots tend to also be at 96%, but some of the more popular games do have a 94% version (like DoA for example)

Im basing this off my play at Videoslots, if they have a slot at 96% i have to assume there is no 94% version available.

If you want a challenge: try DOA at 90%. I've seen it in the wild at Ladbrokes Belgium... I mean, you'll probably get 5 scatters and a wild line. I didn't even do 1 spin.