Scammed By Jackpot Charm Casino

[Raman2202]

You got your money mate. Stick 2 fingers up and laugh at them.

If they where decent then you wouldn’t be here wanting cash thats yours.

Exactly. I just feel bad for people that have gaming problems(i have one myself thats how i found the site as it wasnt on gamstop) that end up losing loads to these guys without seeing a penny. Even though they aren't licensed by UKGC when i mentioned the improper practices they said they would take it seriously and contact curacao who have licensed them. I said I would explain everything improper with the casino but said i'd wait in the off chance i got my money which I did. Best part about the good reviews of the casino is they always start with the same sentence "Thought I’d share my experience after seeing a lot of negative reviews."

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[Raman2202]

By the way they were a licensed casino but fortune clock ironically was way less hassle than genesis casino. I waited 28 days for a withdrawal and they charged a 10% commision fee because i changed the payment method even though i requested it to my visa but they sent it to my paypal which i told them was deleted but they said they had to as I had made more deposits from there. They were true stains.

 

[Raman2202]

Also I don't get when someone claims they won off a disputed casino but then refuse to show proof they won them with the excuse they woudln't send their bank statement. You don't need to send a whole bank statement to prove you received winnings lol.

 

[Playford7]

Also I don't get when someone claims they won off a disputed casino but then refuse to show proof they won them with the excuse they woudln't send their bank statement. You don't need to send a whole bank statement to prove you received winnings lol.

Many a issue does arise, many I addressed and many I won’t...
Time will tell how real or not certain folks are in regards to gambling and how honestly they promote it under there names...

 

[Raman2202]

Many a issue does arise, many I addressed and many I won’t...
Time will tell how real or not certain folks are in regards to gambling and how honestly they promote it under there names...

many an issue with what? I proved my payment just to prove I wasn't one of the fake reviewers.

 

[Sunflytoy]

I think Playford7 is referring to sketchy sorts who claim huge winnings and who aren't actually winning it. They have some sort of arrangement with the casino to pretend to win large sums, presumably to trick other people into thinking they can do it too.

On a different note: Maximum Casino is also ran by the crooks behind Jackpot Charm and all the other shady Russian casinos mentioned here. Maximum Casino uses the same "casino-interactive dot com" website to load pirated games that the latest casinos ran by that bunch use. The website they use that loads pirated demo games at least is owned by a Georgian slots company called Betsense, as I proved here: Scammed By Jackpot Charm Casino

 

[Raman2202]

I think Playford7 is referring to sketchy sorts who claim huge winnings and who aren't actually winning it. They have some sort of arrangement with the casino to pretend to win large sums, presumably to trick other people into thinking they can do it too.

On a different note: Maximum Casino is also ran by the crooks behind Jackpot Charm and all the other shady Russian casinos mentioned here. Maximum Casino uses the same "casino-interactive dot com" website to load pirated games that the latest casinos ran by that bunch use. The website they use that loads pirated demo games at least is owned by a Georgian slots company called Betsense, as I proved here: Scammed By Jackpot Charm Casino

Oh those fake reviews are obvious, they are so generically written that an idiot could see they are fake. However, I was paid out but I did give a warning that you might not get your money on my review.

 

[irish-ranger]

Mmmmmm... it seems there's a few who've posted threads on here that miraculously get paid - eventually.
Now never, ever again deposit at a casino without checking the UK license out....

I’ve been saying that for a month now all is not as it seems

 

[Sunflytoy]

I noticed that Magic Reels Casino is the newest casino created by this group. They appear to be pumping them out as fast as they can, probably because it doesn't take long for them to be exposed as rogue. Also, WG Casino is ran by them as well.

 

[bigbear]

There is also another new scam outfit called Mr Sloty who are linked to 4Crowns that Max has posted a warning about.Both have this in their T&C's which is breathtaking even by rogue standards.

Exclusion, suspension and termination
6.1 We may refuse to register you as a player at any or all of the Casinos or elect to de-register, exclude or suspend you as a player from a Casino at any time, for any reason or for no reason whatsoever.

6.2 You acknowledge that we have no obligation whatsoever to provide you with prior notice of our decision to refuse, de-register, exclude or suspend you as a player, nor are we required to furnish you with any reasons for such decisions.
In other words,if you win we will block your account because you have won and we don;t have to give you a reason why.

 

[Raman2202]

There is also another new scam outfit called Mr Sloty who are linked to 4Crowns that Max has posted a warning about.Both have this in their T&C's which is breathtaking even by rogue standards.

Exclusion, suspension and termination
6.1 We may refuse to register you as a player at any or all of the Casinos or elect to de-register, exclude or suspend you as a player from a Casino at any time, for any reason or for no reason whatsoever.

6.2 You acknowledge that we have no obligation whatsoever to provide you with prior notice of our decision to refuse, de-register, exclude or suspend you as a player, nor are we required to furnish you with any reasons for such decisions.
In other words,if you win we will block your account because you have won and we don;t have to give you a reason why.

"Or for no reason whatsoever"!? Ok this casino should be reported instantly for including that as a term and condition surely that's not legal? Ok this guy won so we're going to suspend him. I bet if you asked you'd be told "well you agreed to the terms and conditions if you signed up"

Something needs to be done about this, some poor bastard is gonna end up depositing loads of money get a withdrawal and then be told his account has been closed via t and c 6.1. God gambling can be grimey sometimes.

 

[Sunflytoy]

To be honest, the people behind MrSloty/4CrownsCasino don't care about the law. They basically threatened someone for refusing to remove a page showing the connections between some early casinos they ran, as this thread shows: 77Jackpot - Lies and threats..

 

[Raman2202]

Jeez. When I was on the phone to the "manager" of fortuneclock his tone went from polite to suddenly really aggressive when I asked for proof of payment for peace of mind and he more or less told me to trust "how we do our business ok!?". That's now how a casino manager would speak.

 

[Sunflytoy]

It sounds more like how a shady sort would speak! If it interests you, the earliest casinos linked to the FortuneClock bunch I know of were registered by someone using a Georgian name. I don't think MrSloty/4CrownsCasino are connected to the FortuneClock bunch.

 

[Raman2202]

It sounds more like how a shady sort would speak! If it interests you, the earliest casinos linked to the FortuneClock bunch I know of were registered by someone using a Georgian name. I don't think MrSloty/4CrownsCasino are connected to the FortuneClock bunch.

When you're getting phone calls from similar numbers used to the ones used to spam you about apparent "carphone warehouse deals" or "insurance for accidents" it's time for alarm. The number was apparently in Inverness but clearly wasn't.

 

[Gibo1234]

Interesting I asked why they was using uk numbers

 

[Sunflytoy]

Agent NoWager is currently the newest online casino created by the bunch behind FortuneClock/JackpotCharm. It's been registered today according to a WHOIS lookup. They use the same websites for pirating games from providers.

 

[Sunflytoy]

Someone was kind enough to give me some information about a payment processor that VeryWell Casino, who is part of this shady bunch, uses. That was enough for me to find out a lot of information about it. The payment processor calls themselves WCR-Pay, and has a website at wallet-cointer dot com. They also have various other websites for processing payments at wallet-travel dot com, paynow-wallet dot com, pepwallet dot net, qwallety dot net, and piastrix dot com (and piastrix dot ru). Piastrix is also used by a binary option website, and binary option websites are infamous for being scams.

One of the websites say they are ran by "Cointer Sp. z o.o.", and that may be true for some of the websites, but in the past they were likely ran by "Prominer Sp. z o.o.", which has a website at prominer dot pl and which was founded in 2018 - and both companies are registered in Poland. Prominer boasts on their website of being "a young dynamically developing team specializing in creating software for payment systems", and has an active payment processor website at first-icard dot com. Both of the names of the people who run the companies in question are Ukrainian from what I can tell, and it would be my bet that they're working together.

 

[MOONFRUIT]

Hey all, I am from the UK and recently made account at jackpot charm, they scammed me for £3800, they also faked there Curaçao license, I have proof of there fake seal they used at the bottom of the webpage also.. Current awaiting to hear back from the bank regarding this.

hi Josh,

how did you get on with this with your bank? I’m in a similar position unfortunately!x

 

[Guntis]

Someone was kind enough to give me some information about a payment processor that VeryWell Casino, who is part of this shady bunch, uses. That was enough for me to find out a lot of information about it. The payment processor calls themselves WCR-Pay, and has a website at wallet-cointer dot com. They also have various other websites for processing payments at wallet-travel dot com, paynow-wallet dot com, pepwallet dot net, qwallety dot net, and piastrix dot com (and piastrix dot ru). Piastrix is also used by a binary option website, and binary option websites are infamous for being scams.

One of the websites say they are ran by "Cointer Sp. z o.o.", and that may be true for some of the websites, but in the past they were likely ran by "Prominer Sp. z o.o.", which has a website at prominer dot pl and which was founded in 2018 - and both companies are registered in Poland. Prominer boasts on their website of being "a young dynamically developing team specializing in creating software for payment systems", and has an active payment processor website at first-icard dot com. Both of the names of the people who run the companies in question are Ukrainian from what I can tell, and it would be my bet that they're working together.

It wouldn't surprise me for a bit if these shit casinos were created by people behind their payment providers.
Your mentioned providers surely are owned by the same owners with Piastrix being currently the most active one.





In the libellium.net user agreement currently, they represent themselves as a company which was closed in 2008.



Different stuff can be found on Yandex, but on the site below is some translated info:


Full article: luxherald.com/2757-ukrainian-oligarch-mr-tigipko-proceeds-adult-traffic-via-his-bank-due-to-interkassa-psp.html

Searching for Online casinos that accept Piastrix or even better go to Yandex and search for "казино которые принимают Piastrix", will lead to more interesting stuff .

And here, you can see who was a Piastrix site designer: portfolios.mica.edu/gallery/68140911/Piastrix-Global-Payment-System-%28Live%29

 

[Sunflytoy]

Thank you so very much for your post, Guntis! I found it really, really interesting. Also, Prestige Spin Casino is the newest online casino created by this shady bunch.

 

[Gibo1234]

Just checked and the site is now not accepting uk players you can’t even log in to get on chat

 

[dunover]

Just checked and the site is now not accepting uk players you can’t even log in to get on chat

Which should have been the case from day 1.
Just accept Jackpot Charm was and is a fraudulent operation, you've lost your money. You and multitudes of others. Your only option is to try and get your payment provider for the transactions on board.

 

[Gibo1234]

Could anyone give any help on this
This is the response from my credit card company

WE’VE COMPLETED OUR INVESTIGATION
Thank you for contacting us about the transaction to WCR-WALL (the “Merchant”) from 20th August 2020 to 24th August 2020
Unfortunately, after reviewing the Merchants terms and conditions which you agreed to, we’re limited by these in the action we can take on your behalf. As the merchants Terms and conditions state the following:
4.3 The company does not provide services that in anyway contradict the current legislation of gambling in your country.By using our sites services you acknowledge, guarantee and agree legalisation in your country. The company is not responsible for unauthorised or illegal use of our sites services.
6.5.5 We reserved the right to use additional procedures and means to verify your identity both before and after effecting deposits into your account. This could include but is not limited to a selfie with a document or form of identification.
To conclude the terms and conditions do state that they may require a copy of your passport to support your identity. There fore as you refused to comply with these terms we are unable to investigate your dispute any further as the merchant have not breached their contract.
Please reach out to Action Fraud if you feel this merchant is not trading according to standards. Unfortunately you have received the services and used the funds.
Please be assured we try and assist our customers where possible. We are sorry we cannot assist you on this occasion.
Kind regards,
Darren ******
Head of Customer Operations

 

[Sunflytoy]

Fruity Chance Casino and Windiggers Casino are the newest casinos they've created, as far as I know.