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Playford7

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Believe it or not I actually cashed out successfully at fortune clock, it took a few day but eventually got paid. The next day a lady with a very thick Russian accent wanted to offer me more deals to play again.

I never deposited again, sounded very shady - thankfully I didn't.

So hard to tell which Casinos are shady these days :(
You dodged a bullet there.
Avoid these clowns, utter waste of time
 

Raman2202

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Im awaiting a payment from fortuneclock casino of 1980 euros, was told it was meant to be sent yesterday, now im being told by the manager it's pending from my payment provider. I'm being told now to wait and they are not sending proof of payment. Having seen all the reviews im freakijng out about recieving the money. Anyone had luck from them?
 

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Im awaiting a payment from fortuneclock casino of 1980 euros, was told it was meant to be sent yesterday, now im being told by the manager it's pending from my payment provider. I'm being told now to wait and they are not sending proof of payment. Having seen all the reviews im freakijng out about recieving the money. Anyone had luck from them?
They have the curaçao license so I’d prepare yourself for sadly not seeing a penny.
 

Raman2202

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They have the curaçao license so I’d prepare yourself for sadly not seeing a penny.
Great. Absolutely great. I did ring the curacao license company and they did say that they are licensed by them. So there is at least that. They have also said they sent the money but it's getting dodgier by the day. They said it should be in my account yesterday now they are claiming it's pending with their payment provider. My bank aren;t helping so what;s the best legal action to take to at least get my deposit back if they don't pay out
 

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Great. Absolutely great. I did ring the curacao license company and they did say that they are licensed by them. So there is at least that. They have also said they sent the money but it's getting dodgier by the day. They said it should be in my account yesterday now they are claiming it's pending with their payment provider. My bank aren;t helping so what;s the best legal action to take to at least get my deposit back if they don't pay out
My other hope is unlike some scam casinos they do respond and they guy did say on the phone that he guaranteeed the money would be paid, there has been no ignoring.
 

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Could I record a phone conversation and get the manager to say something that would hold up in a court of law?
 

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Im awaiting a payment from fortuneclock casino of 1980 euros, was told it was meant to be sent yesterday, now im being told by the manager it's pending from my payment provider. I'm being told now to wait and they are not sending proof of payment. Having seen all the reviews im freakijng out about recieving the money. Anyone had luck from them?
They are as bent as a bag of sidewinders. I don't think they even have a valid bent Curacao license either. If you've lost far more overall than this 1980euros, you MAY get paid as the whole modus operandi of these criminal operations is of a confidence trick.
 

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They are as bent as a bag of sidewinders. I don't think they even have a valid bent Curacao license either. If you've lost far more overall than this 1980euros, you MAY get paid as the whole modus operandi of these criminal operations is of a confidence trick.
Nah I only deposited like 900 euros. Ah this is such bullshit, curacao did say they are licensed unlike the previous casino but I am fearing the worst.
 

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I've read reviews where they pay out but apparently you have to really chase them up about it and there is definitely some fake good reviews in there
 

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Nah I only deposited like 900 euros. Ah this is such bullshit, curacao did say they are licensed unlike the previous casino but I am fearing the worst.
Well, where the criminal philosophy is money in, no money out net winners are an unwelcome liability.
 

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Well, where the criminal philosophy is money in, no money out net winners are an unwelcome liability.
Such bullshit if the case, I got another e-mail reassuring it would be paid out but I'm going to bug them as long as I can on this case. I can take them to court no? They are claiming to provide a service which they are not if they are not paying out. They haven't given a reason for not paying out they are just claiming they sent the money and that sometimes "technical problems" arise.

That phrase instantly gives me a bad feeling
 

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Such bullshit if the case, I got another e-mail reassuring it would be paid out but I'm going to bug them as long as I can on this case. I can take them to court no? They are claiming to provide a service which they are not if they are not paying out. They haven't given a reason for not paying out they are just claiming they sent the money and that sometimes "technical problems" arise.

That phrase instantly gives me a bad feeling
Welcome to the world of unlicensed offshore gambling, based in locations outside the reach of jurisdictions in civilized countries.
A court - well picture a fat, seedy, sweaty, unshaven bloke in a stained white suit and Panama hat, sitting in a jungle hut with an open bottle of firewater and cigar ash rolling down his front and a squeaky old fan slowly rotating above his head. That's who you need to take it up with, although he will have a locked drawer with several $100 notes piled up inside which he accidentally 'found' in the paperwork these casinos submitted when applying for their 'licenses'.
In other words, there's absolutely f-all you can do. Unless you tell your payment provider you've been gambling at illegal casinos to which they shouldn't be processing payments.
 

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Welcome to the world of unlicensed offshore gambling, based in locations outside the reach of jurisdictions in civilized countries.
A court - well picture a fat, seedy, sweaty, unshaven bloke in a stained white suit and Panama hat, sitting in a jungle hut with an open bottle of firewater and cigar ash rolling down his front and a squeaky old fan slowly rotating above his head. That's who you need to take it up with, although he will have a locked drawer with several $100 notes piled up inside which he accidentally 'found' in the paperwork these casinos submitted when applying for their 'licenses'.
In other words, there's absolutely f-all you can do. Unless you tell your payment provider you've been gambling at illegal casinos to which they shouldn't be processing payments.
Great. My bank told me as i authorised the payments they can\t help but I will mention that the casino may well be illegal in which case they shouldnt have authorised the payments...see what they say. Plus I paid for a service which I did not get which does come under their rights for terms and conditions. As in I thought i was paying to a gaming site where I was actually paying to bunch of scammers that take money. They never sent a text asking to confirm the payment so I guess I could get them on that?
 

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I'm no expert on fraud law(guess it's trick as it's outside of the UK) but surely once i've proven I have evidence via email that i'm recieving the money I can get the police involved. Like they could track the phone calls? or something. Sadly I don't know any police officers, do know a couple of lawyers though. I've literally gone through every fraud site I can find but most of them deal with UK cases, I contacted the european consumer centre. I mean at the end of the day if i recieve nothing it's 900 euros less for me to spend on other gaming sites i'd lose or on impulse purchases.

Apparently if you keep complaining they make you download an app called perfect money which while not being a total scam, ends up costing you money to get the money there. A guy messaged me from a forum saying he got his orginal winnings of 2400 euro down to 2100 euro due to using the app but in the end just took it. He did say he'd deposited around 4000 euro though so they might not have cared about paying him out.
 
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If I don't get it in a week i'm gonna ask them to send it to my neteller account and see what they say. If they start blabbing reasons why they can't then i'll take legal action.
 

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If I don't get it in a week i'm gonna ask them to send it to my neteller account and see what they say. If they start blabbing reasons why they can't then i'll take legal action.
How do you intend to take this legal action?.

You don't have a leg to stand on, they know that, we know that, sadly you are oblivious.

By all means keep on at them and hope you get a pay out (unlikely), but they will just laugh if you threaten legal action.
 

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How do you intend to take this legal action?.

You don't have a leg to stand on, they know that, we know that, sadly you are oblivious.

By all means keep on at them and hope you get a pay out (unlikely), but they will just laugh if you threaten legal action.
It's called clutching at straws. I try and be optimistic about such things. From the reviews i read they do sometimes pay out but you have to proper chase them up and even then they ask you to use perfect money which is dodgy as prince andrew. Who the hell knows maybe i'll be one of the lucky ones that gets a pay out. My last source of hope is they tried every trick in the book to get me to not live up to a term and condition but i researched them like a mother so didn't break any of their 4000 terms and conditions. I contacted my bank to say they should have marked up these payments as potentially fradulent(as they see them before I do) and they said they would look into it. Still whatever, to stay alive they do payout sometimes but the fact that I "beat the house" tells me at best i'd get deposits back and even that seems unlikely.
 

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All I can say is if I recive nothing then at least its 900 euros and not the £22000 that poor sucker might not get from genesis casino as they are likely to go bust.
 

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Ok so...guess what. Got the money. I shmoozed him by promising to deposit more if i got my winnings and looks like it worked.
 

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