Has betat's terms changed ?

[spintee]

We all no its a good casino but I really cannot figure this one out,

First of I received ans email about the weekend 50% bonus and free spin on piggy riches or starburst, The email stated 25 free spins yet the rules on site state 20 spins?

2nd is that wager is 25x D&B This in theory make it a 75x bonus or if playing netent than 150x, I am sure the wager was nether that much ? I no that the bonus is not tied into the deposit but still a high wager, I am not complaining and maybe the high wager is justified but some one has made a mistake about how may free spins

Email, 25 spins



Site 20 spins

 

[refre]

I just played the free spins, but I can not remember if there were 20 or 25 of them
I think it may have been 20.
Perhaps the rep can clarify.

As far as I know WR has always been given as a multiple of D+B.

You are not tied into it as long as you don't dip into bonus funds.
You may as well claim it, and view it as cashback



Freddy

 

[spintee]

I just played the free spins, but I can not remember if there were 20 or 25 of them
I think it may have been 20.
Perhaps the rep can clarify.

As far as I know WR has always been given as a multiple of D+B.

You are not tied into it as long as you don't dip into bonus funds.
You may as well claim it, and view it as cashback



Freddy

Yes the bonus is basicly extra back up funds, I cannot remember if the wager cash counts as wager? or only start when dip into bonus?

Hopefully the rep can confirm about the 20 or 25 spins

 

[refre]

All wagers count toward WR.
You can convert the bonus without touching it.

I've given the rep a heads up on this thread.

Freddy

 

[Jono777]

Must be my 'unluckiest' site atm, can't hit a barn door.

However their reputation etc keeps me going back, just dived straight into my e-mails hoping for that offer but sadly after 3 losing deposits there this week big no go

Shame cos something in 'the air' tells me I'm gonna hit big there real soon.

 

[brianmon]

The 25% E-wallet bonus on a Wednesday is even worse 20x D+B, It works out at 100xB, Huge wagering for such a small bonus

 

[Casino2014man]

Wow what a terrible bonus.

I just deposited £20 there, and got £10.

It told me I would have to wager £750 before I could take anything out, and it ties your deposit in too as wagering starts immediately. Never again. Lesson learnt.

Oh, and it gives you 20 free spins.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Wow what a terrible bonus.

I just deposited £20 there, and got £10.

It told me I would have to wager £750 before I could take anything out, and it ties your deposit in too as wagering starts immediately. Never again. Lesson learnt.

Oh, and it gives you 20 free spins.

Are you sure? One of the reasons I signed up to Betat is because of his the bonus system works by not locking in your winnings if you don't use the bonus money. Even if you don't touch it you can still make wagering as all bets count towards it regardless which funds you use. Though WR can be high I fell it's good that you have the option of possibly taking the money and running early if I hit big. I guess what you gain there you lose with the WR but they have to make their money somewhere. No such thing as a free lunch sadly!

 

[Jono777]

You can W/D on Betat at any time mate, as long as you don't dip into the 10er bonus funds. (they are there as kind of a back up/ last chance saloon)

Plus your wagering 'kicks in' soon as you make your 1st bet/wager

I have got the 50% offer, just no e-mail so apologies to Betat for my earlier moan.

Better get ready to process my W/d Guys

 

[spintee]

Wow what a terrible bonus.

I just deposited £20 there, and got £10.

It told me I would have to wager £750 before I could take anything out, and it ties your deposit in too as wagering starts immediately. Never again. Lesson learnt.

Oh, and it gives you 20 free spins.

I think they make it look like you cannot withdraw but like refre pointed out as long as you do not hit bonus your free to withdraw as if you click on your bonus it should state whats cash and whats bonus,

Verajhon has the same bonus but the wager does not count untill you hit the bonus, & there terms pointed out if you withdraw b4 wager is complete than you will lose any bonus and winnings, (made to look you had to complete wager which was imposible due to wager not kick in to you hit the bonus) I have now see that VJ has now updated there rules and clearly shows you can withdraw without loosing wins if not touched bonus

 

[Birdy84]

I know what you mean the 25x d&b is a little over what i normally go for with a 100% match but with all the pros of betat i feel happier playing there. However i do think for the 50% and lower bonuses the wr is a little much
but no oblligation to take them. I think overall they have lots of different offers coming out all the time so if something doesnt float your boat something will turn up soon enough with them that does. I thought the wr was lower when i first played at betat a good while ago but so many places i have played at hard to remember.

 

[Jono777]

Get In!!! - exactly an hour since my last post and yet again I've met the WR without even breaking a sweat




Nightmare

 

[BETAT]

Hi guys,
It's 25 free spins - just an error in the Ts and Cs.

 

[refre]

Thanks!

I understand the correct number is 25 free spins.
While I'm not 100% sure, I think I only got 20.
And it seems to be confirmed by Casino2014man.


Freddy

Hi guys,
It's 25 free spins - just an error in the Ts and Cs.

Oh, and it gives you 20 free spins.

 

[homerbert]

It give me 20 yesterday, but live chat correct this

 

[Takkaone]

I only got 20 freespins... I assume this was because i had to contact support to get them credited manually and Per most likely took a look into the T&Cs.

But i wont complain! Second spin triggered an okay freespin-round... ;-) (Running WAY above expectation on BETAT-freespins or no-deposit credits... )

Now i only need to "learn", not to play deposit-match boni on BETAT the same way as on other casinos... Always aiming to clear the wagering-requirement (as usual) instead of just pretending the bonusfunds were not part of my balance until dipping into these funds... (think this would be the correct approach)

 

[Jono777]

Only got 20 too!

 

[bruinsdude]

I did not even get an email. Hope it's available to all on the site, will deposit. Nice promo, WR are what they are, I am just grateful the casinos offer 50% and more sometimes. At the end of the day I play for entertainment first, cashing out is a close second, if the WR's need to be what they are to offer bigger promotions, then so be it, I say.

 

[Jono777]

I too play for entertainment, maybe one day I will get it.

I did not get the e-mail either, but checked after seeing this thread and it was available as soon as I opened the cashier, so you should be ok

 

[BETAT]

When in doubt, check the tab 'my bonuses and promotions' - it will show you any and all bonuses/promotions you're eligible for.

 

[BETAT]

Hi guys,
If anyone thinks they might have gotten a wrong free spin count with the their bonus (it's 25), send me a pm.
Thanks.

 

[Igor82]

Guys, can we stop the WR tirade?

WR is there for a reason - its always B+D, ALWAYS and it will never be less than 25. It doesn't matter if its 20%, 50% or 500% bonus. I'm not going to go into the deep maths of it, but given that real money is never locked in, while being given that real money contributes to WR it means that every bonus, ever is going to have minimum of 20xB+D or higher.

For the no maths players out there, 50% at 25 B+D means that with a balance of (100 dep + 50 bonus) 150 you need to wager 3750. Now, some slots are at 96%, some are even at 97% - we always take a 3.5% margin average. 3.5% multiplied by volume means that you should expect to lose 130 from your 150, which means you get a 20% cashback on losses of a 100 (that is to say, if you lose - if you win, you have no ties! need to stress that again, kinda), or it means that you get longer game play by 50% that you wouldnt have otherwise had (while keeping your deposit risk free), or it means that you get

wait for it...

FREE STUFF. No strings attached. Again

And seriously, if ... after all the services we offer and free deposits (check - even for methods that cost us 10% per deposit by the way) and free withdrawals (check) and a PLETHORA of bonuses weekly (check), and PLETHORA of free spins weekly (check), and Wagering based promotions (check), achievement bonuses (check), special CM only promos (check), fast 24/7 withdrawals (check) ... i have to come back from my long slumber away from the forum to find spintee going on about the same old tirade for few 100's of wagering up or down, that is to say in the same place where i left it off...

Well then, you are either really spoilt for choice among operators today - which as a consumer its a great thing to see and i'm glad the industry went in a positive direction,

or, you have an insatiable thirst to get a free lunch every time. There are no free lunches. Well, sometimes, perhaps. Not every time.

In sort, we're not in the business of creating wildly positive +EV marketing campaigns, because then we'd be out of business and all those nice services up there cant be given at all because we'd be gone.

BETAT bonuses will always be the very minimum of 25 B+D and its a good deal. I'm sure there are better deals out there, but with everything else we offer - this one is ours. And we're happy with it.



Btw, i'm back lol. Came back to write some new updates and things that we've been doing for the casinos and the industry over the last few months. It's quite exciting.

Good to see/read you all

Ig

 

[paul7388]

Now that's the sort of reintroduction I like lol.

Agree with what you said and welcome back to the forum. As you noticed its like you have never been away lol and everythings stayed just the same.

 

[Igor82]

 

[bigjohn]

A warm Welcome back to you Igor!

Your no BS approach was missed and is really appreciated by me and I'm sure many more on this forum. BTW, the rest of your team have been doing just fine.

Again, Welcome back and please carry on....