New Slot Announcement Bonanza 2 is here! Bonanza Falls by Big Time Gaming

[slot_zombie]

I can't wait to try it.. On the reduced RTP setting, naturally ?

 

[Valhalla]

Crazy how dead this thread is. Nobody winning big on this? Loooool

Standard for most BTG slots.
When DOA2 was released it was mega wins up the whazoo within a day. Bonanza 2 drops and it's just another mediocre Megaways slot to bore the tits off us, and fleece anyone willing to put up with it.

 

[goatwack]

To think, BTG at one point had the most innovative and certainly infamous game in slotdom in the form of Bonanza. At that point, the merest hint of a sequel would have got people hyped for something that could surely only improve on arguably the greatest slot at that time.

Unfortunate then that in its stead the T-shirt botherers conspired to create Coin-Drop Bonanza 1.5 with worse 'potential' and a waterfall dookie ?

BTG are done, their output's in decline....

 

[kennygamerboy]

To think, BTG at one point had the most innovative and certainly infamous game in slotdom in the form of Bonanza. At that point, the merest hint of a sequel would have got people hyped for something that could surely only improve on arguably the greatest slot at that time.

Unfortunate then that in its stead the T-shirt botherers conspired to create Coin-Drop Bonanza 1.5 with worse 'potential' and a waterfall dookie ?

BTG are done, their output's in decline....

I found the slot infuriating. Trolling constantly if good multi coins aren't dropping and you just know the way it's gonna go.

 

[Reelsoffun]

@ChopleyIOM

While we’re on about playing games to prove a point and while you got some funds on VS, I wonder if you would mind giving a game a go and will tell you why.

Its called Magnificent power zeus.

I don’t normally play collectable ones but this isn’t that bad as far as those go as a bonuses reset the bonus multiplier, which I would expect wouldn’t be that long.

ok the RTP isn’t great at 94.2 but not terrible compared to where the standard seems to be heading at 94.x anyway.

Now I’m not one to get the tin foil hat on very easily but I’m starting to feel this game is broken in the fact that I have not managed a single bonus in over 3,700 spins, now while this in itself isn’t that overly horrendous nor is my current RTP, it’s not the sort of figure I would expect from a game of this type.

To follow on from this all my gambling buddys that have played this game have also not hit a single bonus at all either so now starting to really feel broken.

So I would like to officially ask the CM community, has anyone played this on VS, and has anyone actually bonused it, I have had hundreds of teases, but just playing like it’s never going to hit??. So if anyone can confirm they have hit the bonus I would be grateful.

Now while 81.9% isn’t terrible it’s been way lower. Bit confused to what volatility rating it is as some say high some say mid high, but is it actually low to mid?

Just wondering 1 what the average bonus hit rate is and 2, how many more spins should I do before giving up or asking for it to be investigated?

here is my current stats at VS.

I will see if anyone wants to chime in and will post to a separate thread if needed.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I have to be honest that's not a great pitch @Reelsoffun - 'Here, come and throw some of your money on this bonfire I've found'.

Still, I do like a stupid challenge and I haven't yet made a withdrawal on my current deposit, so go on then.....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

It's all in the wrist. 190 spins I think, although I can check the recording to make sure.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I hope your free spins pay better than mine when you eventually get them!

 

[Reelsoffun]

I hope your free spins pay better than mine when you eventually get them!

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OMG So typical LOL The degsy “Spawn“ strikes again! Hmmm well you didn’t have to prove it’s fine and can bonus so bloody quick lol.

And while your result probably screams “run for the hills” to me I’m going to plod on as I want at least one feature!

My free spin multi is up to the 10x ( has been for over 2000 plays ) which is the max it is capped at, definitely feels like it’s blocking?, so I’m wondering if that’s why it’s not allowing to trigger, but now I’m just gonna have to keep having another bash to hopefully get any of the “value” out of the 10x+ multi that I’m sat on……

Maybe it only allows feature to hit on people with auto play…….. or from IOM LOL

Please keep me posted on if you get one on the 10x or if you have run away, no worries I can’t blame ya! and a massive thanks for trying it out to prove the point in hand and that it is fine and I have just had the run from hell on it ?

 

[JkG]

I've played it a few times and it's pretty much just Bonanza
I never even got the bonus so can't comment on it, therefore, exactly like Bonanza in the first place lol

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Please keep me posted on if you get one on the 10x or if you have run away, no worries I can’t blame ya! and a massive thanks for trying it out to prove the point in hand and that it is fine and I have just had the run from hell on it ?

I don't think I'll be bothering with it again TBH, I took the money and ran, as I was getting ready to make a withdrawal anyway

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Can u imagine a Degsy/Dazza joint bullet on bonanza.

The spawn level would be off the scale!!

 

[Reelsoffun]

@ChopleyIOM

Just an update in that you have dodged a bullet me thinks! another 1000+ spins (4794) total and still no sign of a bonus, probably time to call it a day for this game, but so need to prove a point lol

 

[snorky510238]

Well, it really looks as though it should have been called Bonanza Fails.

It looks like people have finally caught on to the fact that BTG are a bunch of underhanded crooks that change games on the fly. They are also arrogant enough to think that people will put up with it or are too stupid to notice what is going on.

Good luck to anyone who does play it. (You’ll need it). Predicting that this game will be such a flop, the thread won’t make double figures.

N.B. If it does, it will be for the wrong reasons. Suck it up BTG, your time has come.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

U still playing bonanza Snorks???

 

[snorky510238]

U still playing bonanza Snorks???

I was still dabbling but since the ‘new’ platform the game is even worse, if that was even possible.

The game really isn’t fit for purpose imo. You, yourself started posting about having to make a ridiculous amount of deposits without seeing a bonus and I too started to encounter exactly the same.

The fact that this can happen and nobody does a thing about it has made me realise just how bad and unregulated the industry is.

I played for 5 years and yes, I lost money but I had some amazing wins and it was exciting and it always felt like (give or take a few moans here and there), that I was at least getting a fair game. Online slotting was a sustainable hobby.

Then for the next 2 years, It no longer felt that way. In fact, quite the opposite. It feels like games are just geared to rip your balance to shreds as quickly as possible.

P.S. Did you ever get your rtp from 365?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It was paddy not 365. And no I didn’t.

Tbf after I hit big on something else I went back to it on higher stakes and hit a 1000x plus and an 800x odd fairly close so even now probably would still be below RTP but skewed given I’m normally 40-80p rather than £2-£4.

I hear where ur coming from, I’m not quite the pointer of finger that you are but it can be so brutal.

I’ve eased off quite a bit. Just stick to football and horses. Something I can earn money on.

Merry Xmas all and good luck.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well, it really looks as though it should have been called Bonanza Fails.

It looks like people have finally caught on to the fact that BTG are a bunch of underhanded crooks that change games on the fly. They are also arrogant enough to think that people will put up with it or are too stupid to notice what is going on.

Good luck to anyone who does play it. (You’ll need it). Predicting that this game will be such a flop, the thread won’t make double figures.

N.B. If it does, it will be for the wrong reasons. Suck it up BTG, your time has come.

For anyone who wants to play Bonanza they can just go and play Bonanza.

Bonanza Falls is a completely different beast, with a massively changed volatility profile for the feature, I can't imagine the sort of person who likes Bonanza particularly finding Bonanza Falls to be a compelling alternative, especially since a lot of places have taken it at the 94% maths model, when the original Bonanza only exists at 96%. ('I'll play the crappy sequel where the house edge is increased by 50%, and where on average as the player my playtime will be considerably reduced' - said no one.)

As such I wouldn't read too much into the relative 'failure' of Bonanza Falls here at CM in terms of engagement with this thread, for my money it's just another stupidly volatile BTG crapfest that I wouldn't even remotely consider playing with any real funds, and I suspect many folks who've kicked the demo version around will quite likely reach the same conclusion.

 

[snorky510238]

Come off it! If this game has been produced 3 years ago, there would have been scores of CM members playing and posting about it.

BTG have made 2 or 3 decent games, ever. Bonanza, DHV and possibly White Rabbit. Chilli and Millionaire were just Bonanza with different pants on.

The problem being, that so many of their other games were absolute flops. (So bad I am struggling to remember them. Holy Diver? Survivor? Royal Mint? etc). What they did was to screw down their more popular creations to cover their other failures.

The problem now is that they have nowhere left to go. They can’t create an original, engaging game to save their lives and they have lost a huge part of their fan base (just look at the number of CM members that have parted ways) because they have screwed their customers over.

The Industry is on its arse in the UK and BTG are so yesterday, they’ll be unheard of very soon. There’s a reason, they have sold out and whoever took them over has been had over a barrel.

 

[dunover]

Come off it! If this game has been produced 3 years ago, there would have been scores of CM members playing and posting about it.

BTG have made 2 or 3 decent games, ever. Bonanza, DHV and possibly White Rabbit. Chilli and Millionaire were just Bonanza with different pants on.

The problem being, that so many of their other games were absolute flops. (So bad I am struggling to remember them. Holy Diver? Survivor? Royal Mint? etc). What they did was to screw down their more popular creations to cover their other failures.

The problem now is that they have nowhere left to go. They can’t create an original, engaging game to save their lives and they have lost a huge part of their fan base (just look at the number of CM members that have parted ways) because they have screwed their customers over.

The Industry is on its arse in the UK and BTG are so yesterday, they’ll be unheard of very soon. There’s a reason, they have sold out and whoever took them over has been had over a barrel.

Come on! Admit it! You've played at least 20 of the following BTG slots:

Temple Quest Spinfinity
The Final Countdown - @ChopleyIOM spawn machine
Wheel of Fortune MW
Star Clusters (I HATE this one!)
Starquest
Dragon Born
Slot Vegas Megquads
Queen of Riches
Royal Mint MW
Monopoly MW - @ChopleyIOM loved this to death lol
Opal fruits
POP
WWTBAM MW
WWTBAM Mystery Box
Lucky Streak Mk2
Lil' Devil - paid a guy in the UK over 105,000x for 40p stake lol
Kingmaker MW
Holy Diver MW - I like that one.
Gold
Donuts - have to say, a very good game
DHV
Cyberslot Megaclusters
Chocolates
Book of Gods - Nah
Wild Flower
King of Cats MW
Spicy Meatballs MW
Beef Lightning MW
Gold MW
Slot Vegas Fully Loaded Megaquads
Diamond Fruits
Apollo Pays MW
Wild Portals MW
Pirate Pays MW
Kingmaker Fully Loaded MW
Millionaire Rush
Vegas MW
Golden Catch MW
Max MW
Max MW 2
Castle of Terror - featuring Starmer, Corbyn, Truss and Angela Rayner
Outlaw MW
Rasputin MW - horrid stitch-up for full reels
Gifts of Fortune MW
Christmas Bonanza
Bonanza - my personal ATM
Vegas Rush Megaclusters
The Race MW - awful
Over the Moon MW
Big Bad Bison MW
Wild Unicorns - can be good
Sanctuary - awful bonus gamble
White Rabbit - a non-lumpy bonus buy
Extra Chilli MW - people liked it
Bonanza Falls - @snorky510238 's new favourite.

 

[snorky510238]

Yes of course I’ve played them. About 25-30 at a rough guess. But, I have probably only played about 10 where I have done over 1,000 spins and I think probably only Bonanza, DHV, Chilli, Millionaire and Lil Devil that I have done over 2,000.

P.S. @dunover, on which platform are you playing Bonanza?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Ahh that’s right I see Xmas bonanza is on that list…

Look at this filth fest. Stakes between 60p and £1 and the last £100 on £2.

For that loss I got 1 feature of less than 10x and 1 base win of over 25x

And in all that time 5 yes that’s not a typo 5 (five) cascade chances. The old non scatter reel set, fucks me over yet again.

Merry Xmas and fuck off BTG.

 

[snorky510238]

You literally would not believe my stats for Bonanza. I will ask @Chopley first, if he thinks conclusions can be drawn over 100 consecutive bonuses. If not, how many would you say is needed?

P.S. I will ask @dunover too, as he is the resident expert.

 

[snorky510238]

Merry Xmas and fuck off BTG.

Has to be awarded Post of the Year!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

You literally would not believe my stats for Bonanza. I will ask @Chopley first, if he thinks conclusions can be drawn over 100 consecutive bonuses. If not, how many would you say is needed?

P.S. I will ask @dunover too, as he is the resident expert.

He’s not an expert he’s just the worlds most spawniest c**t.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Nicked £50 on footy.

Threw that at it….

FML that was on 80p

1 L no cascade chances(shock)

Obv no base win.

At least the random dead spell continues into almost 4hrs now.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Difficult not to carry on but were you the draw the line?? That’s nearly £700 down on modest stakes with just 1 shitty feature.

Just doesn’t look like doing a fucking thing with 4hrs of scatterless bullshit.

 

[dunover]

You literally would not believe my stats for Bonanza. I will ask @Chopley first, if he thinks conclusions can be drawn over 100 consecutive bonuses. If not, how many would you say is needed?

P.S. I will ask @dunover too, as he is the resident expert.

LOL I think it's NYX or known nowadays as SG/Light & Wonder.

100 bonuses you would expect 0 at 1000x plus, 1 or 2 at 500x plus and several in the 2-300x range, averaging about 85-90x. Getting 100x or more seems to occur about 1/4 bonuses. You would expect to get 0 paying 0x, <5 paying 1-10x and the most common result being the 20-40x shitters. It's those which 'store' value for the above-average and big ones of 500x plus.

 

[megadam]

Ahh that’s right I see Xmas bonanza is on that list…

Look at this filth fest. Stakes between 60p and £1 and the last £100 on £2.

For that loss I got 1 feature of less than 10x and 1 base win of over 25x

And in all that time 5 yes that’s not a typo 5 (five) cascade chances. The old non scatter reel set, fucks me over yet again.

Merry Xmas and fuck off BTG.

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Not surprised at that tbh. My stats on Christmas Bonanza will be in the low 20s RTP wise after about 2000 odd spins. Rinsed an absolute fortune off of me on 20-60p stakes and it barely ever bonused. When it did it was shocking.

BTG post Evolution buy out are exactly the same as the other studios bought out by Evo. Churning out slots with anemic features, nonsensical math models and bonus buys that are just completely savage. The only good game that's come out is Max Megaways 2 and jeez the enhanced buy on that is either Dunover levels of spawn or an absolute fisting.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Isn't Christmas Bonanza just a reskin/clone of Bonanza, or is it actually a different game?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It’s the same apparently but irrelevant as both can do exactly the same.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Just some players seem to avoid it constantly and others don’t.

 

[snorky510238]

Isn't Christmas Bonanza just a foreskin/clone of Bonanza, or is it actually a different game?

That’s better.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Monopoly MW - @ChopleyIOM loved this to death lol

I still have the stats I recorded for my brief encounter with this, the name of the file says it all.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Terrible game.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Great few days……

£1200 odd loss playing on mainly 40-80p stakes managing a huge 83% capped off by a £250 loss on DHV playing on 40p for just one yes 1 fucking feature. Nothing like a 600+X loss on a game that has a 65x feature buy. Just about managed an hours play for that. Thanks very much for the thrilling entertainment BTG.

And I thought Christmas bonanza was bad enough….

Blatant continuous death spell with absolutely no movement out of filth mode.

Sometimes u sit there rattling through spins knowing ur gonna get fucked over hard. Yet you believe ur supposedly getting a fair crack of the whip.

Deposit after deposit going in one direction and never even fluctuating in the slightest.

Just 3 deposits yielding features and some kind of expected game time. Christmas bonanza finally yielding a 230x feature.

Time for a holiday….

Playing at Dazza stakes I would have dropped the equivalent of 10 bag.

Absolute fucking disgrace.

 

[kennygamerboy]

Great few days……

£1200 odd loss playing on mainly 40-80p stakes managing a huge 83% capped off by a £250 loss on DHV playing on 40p for just one yes 1 fucking feature. Nothing like a 600+X loss on a game that has a 65x feature buy. Just about managed an hours play for that. Thanks very much for the thrilling entertainment BTG.

And I thought Christmas bonanza was bad enough….

Blatant continuous death spell with absolutely no movement out of filth mode.

Sometimes u sit there rattling through spins knowing ur gonna get fucked over hard. Yet you believe ur supposedly getting a fair crack of the whip.

Deposit after deposit going in one direction and never even fluctuating in the slightest.

Just 3 deposits yielding features and some kind of expected game time. Christmas bonanza finally yielding a 230x feature.

Time for a holiday….

Playing at Dazza stakes I would have dropped the equivalent of 10 bag.

Absolute fucking disgrace.

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Switch casinos up

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I love braining mate!!

Besides can barely get a deposit in anywhere.

Either restricted or small limits unless I give them bank statements etc etc.

No casino will ever get fuck all like that from me.

 

[Valhalla]

Still waiting on the big win pictures from Bonanza Fails ??‍

As for BTG themselves, there are a few games I do actually think are good:
DHV (great), Donuts, Final Countdown, L’il Devil.
The rest are all complete garbage, and the two main Bonanza Versions are nothing short of downright offensive.

 

[snorky510238]

The problem being, they were great games until BTG gimped them all and changed the way they played. Bonanza was equally as good if not better than all of them but now, since the butchering, it’s a rancid piece of shite, that isn’t fit for purpose.

The incredible runs of 15-20 consecutive dead spins. NEVER USE TO HAPPEN.
Going days without seeing a bonus round. NEVER USED TO HAPPEN.
Having 90% of the bonus rounds pay less than x100. NEVER USED TO HAPPEN.

I have seen several people say that on a day when it’s dead (most days, then), it feels like bonus rounds are blocked from being achievable. After more than what can be classed as extensive play, I can confirm that this is indeed, correct.

Your chances of winning varies from day to day. Nothing random about it whatsoever. The results may well be pulled from a random generator but on certain days, there’s no diesel in it. Joking aside, on certain days the nice prizes/results are not available.

The overall payout of the game is controlled by the mother rtp manipulator (or whatever you want to call it). This means that the game will pay the rtp it is set to over a said period. The counter argument will be, it doesn’t need to do that because the maths takes care of it.

That my friends is a load of BOLLOX. If that is what people want to believe, good luck to them. It’s far simpler than that and works as I have stated. To make it appear random, the rtp on the day will fluctuate within certain parameters, either side of expected rtp. For example the slot may have a day when it runs at 99% and then have a couple of days at 88% and so on. This is exactly why you get hot and cold days and can’t believe you are playing the same game.

Now because this is how games work, it doesn’t matter how much money you throw at a game on a bad day, you will not see a decent win, simply because they are not available.

This post will get the usual rotten tomatoes from the rose tinted glassers, no doubt. All I ask is, what proof do they have that games are fair and that every win is available on every spin? The answer is, they don’t have any. They just believe what is written on the tin and in an Industry such as gambling, that’s about as naive as you can get.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes I feel chop will be here to attend to that post!!

 

[snorky510238]

Yes I feel chop will be here to attend to that post!!

What do you believe? That it does work as were supposed to believe and these sessions (of which you will have witnessed many), where all the spins from hell come in a package are just random bad luck and from what you’ve witnessed, it’s all fair and square or do you think there might be something else intervening, as I have alluded to?

 

[Jono777]

Random slots - yes definatley mate

WITHIN SET or DEFINED parameters. (Which change and fluctuate behind the scenes to suit the provider not the players)

Just like FOBT's which could munch all month and then pay out non stop for a couple of days

Just like fruit machines which once the value had gone, pay limited prizes only as the Jackpots were blocked, it even states this in a round about sort of way on the machines themselves!

There is a word which is on the tip of my tongue beginning with 'C' which describes ALL, yes ALL slot machines, real or online.

Some will argue but I won't argue back as some simply will NEVER be convinced, I know what I see, I agree with Snorky and the simple fact that I got a fair game for years and years and then suddenly shit on royally 9 sessions out of 10 backs up and ensures I will stick to my guns on this one.

 

[itsme123]

So the actual complaints on this thread our a slot/slots that are designed to take my money off me take my money off me?

 

[snorky510238]

So the actual complaints on this thread our a slot/slots that are designed to take my money off me take my money off me?

Nobody is disputing the fact that slots are designed to take money from players. The debate is, do they do it fairly and as stated or is there more going on than most people see?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Nobody is disputing the fact that slots are designed to take money from players. The debate is, do they do it fairly and as stated or is there more going on than most people see?

HINT - No.

Who knows, maybe 2024 will be the year the lid is finally lifted on Bonanza and its cheating ways!

 

[CongoGB]

HINT - No.

Who knows, maybe 2024 will be the year the lid is finally lifted on Bonanza and its cheating ways!

HINT - it won't, and we'll still be here this time next year with this thread doing exactly the same things as it's done for what, 5 or 6 years now? Maybe 2024 will be when people find something better to do with their time?

(HINT - No)

 

[snorky510238]

With around a 100,000 players per year signing up to Gamstop, (and that will grow massively), the future for the Industry looks bleak, to say the least. With Casinos and Providers having to cut so many corners and rtp to stay afloat (allegedly), it will only be a matter of time before thousands more follow suit. That is surely not a sustainable loss of custom, long term.

The same will happen, as has happened to the UK high street bookies. They rinsed and rinsed their customers until they couldn’t fit any more SE forms in their files. Look at them now, they are finished. Closing in their droves. Online gambling will go exactly the same way within 10 years.

It’s started already, you only have to look at this forum. When I joined, it was a hive of activity. Now you just have us tailenders and that’s it. Pretty much the only new members that post much, need an issue sorting and that’s your lot!

 

[DreddBeat]

After literally thousands of spins over the past couple of days, I'm convinced that the game has been nerfed or BTG have somehow disabled letter D, maybe for periods at a time. I used to hit the GOLD bonus around a 100 spins or so, it seemed reasonable. The past couple of days it appeared to be impossible, like the bonus was disabled. It absolutely would not drop. I had every possible multi tease combination you can imagine. Whenever I went back for another crack, the game would just go into this dead burn phase until my money was gone. It was never like this before. I don't expect to hit the bonus every time I play but something has to give. It really has me feeling suspicious of BTG and whoever else is involved.

 

[Valhalla]

Loving all the big wins so far on this one, thanks for sharing them guys and gals