Question How long should you play

[thebigs]

Have had a seriously bad start to 2014 playing my usual slots and am wondering how many spins or how much people would be prepared to lose before obviously realising that slot is COLD.
As i said in a previous thread the Finer Reels In Life has been playing so cold at all the casinos ive been playing its not funny but muggings here keeps playing and of course losing.I always thought, ok its cold on one casino but surely not on all.

As you will guess the games i play are IM,TS2,PLAYBOY and Starburst. and i am keen to try out some others but get bored with a lot of them.
I would be grateful for any suggestions similar to the games i play.

 

[Nifty29]

Slots are random (except for fruities and quasi-slots)

You have just as much chance to win on the next spin as you did on the last.

By their very nature, slots can be hot or cold or anywhere in between.

Your question is pretty much impossible to answer in any meaningful way....much like asking about the length of a piece of string.

 

[lnspin]

I give a slot 100 spins, If balance is more then i started with then give it another 100..

 

[albrco123]

For me it is as long as my deposit lasts!

Al

 

[243 lines=daft]

I can usually tell within 20-30 spins whether a slot is running hot, cold, warm or freezing

This has a lot to do with playing a handful of slots that haven't changed much in 5 years

 

[zreb]

If anyone could tell when a slot is "cold" or is "hot," they'd be rich.

Slots don't work like that. They have no memory and your odds are always the same. You're not making a mistake by sticking with a slot that hasn't been paying out - you're making a mistake in thinking it matters.

A lot of people have superstitions or ways of playing that they enjoy - some might play til they hit a feature, a decent win, move on to a different slot if they're losing, etc. But there is no rational reason for most of these choices, it's just a way to enjoy playing the games (or ignorance of how they work).

The only important decision to make when the slots are cold is when to cut your losses and call it a night - particularly if you're no longer enjoying yourself or have already lost enough money. Otherwise, sticking it out at the same slot will be about as good as playing another, it's just personal preference whether you'd like to try another game. Just play in whatever manner you find most enjoyable (of course, if the games are beating you down badly enough, it might be tough to enjoy yourself no matter what you're playing, but that's the nature of gambling.)

 

[Nifty29]

If anyone could tell when a slot is "cold" or is "hot," they'd be rich.

Slots don't work like that. They have no memory and your odds are always the same. You're not making a mistake by sticking with a slot that hasn't been paying out - you're making a mistake in thinking it matters.

A lot of people have superstitions or ways of playing that they enjoy - some might play til they hit a feature, a decent win, move on to a different slot if they're losing, etc. But there is no rational reason for most of these choices, it's just a way to enjoy playing the games (or ignorance of how they work).

The only important decision to make when the slots are cold is when to cut your losses and call it a night - particularly if you're no longer enjoying yourself or have already lost enough money. Otherwise, sticking it out at the same slot will be about as good as playing another, it's just personal preference whether you'd like to try another game. Just play in whatever manner you find most enjoyable (of course, if the games are beating you down badly enough, it might be tough to enjoy yourself no matter what you're playing, but that's the nature of gambling.)

Excellent post.

You put it better than I ever could.

 

[Balthazar]

OP is playing IR, Playboy, TFROL and Starburst. Those aren't slots to play if you want more play time, the chance to catch any of them in a bad mood is pretty high.

 

[nisosbar]

I give a slot one spin. If I lose on that spin, I move on to another slot.

The logic behind characterizing a slot as 'hot' is that you are winning more when the slot is hot than when it is 'cold'. Thus, it's also logical to conclude that, if every single spin is subjected to the slot's 'hotness' or 'coldness', then a single spin is likelier to be a winning spin if that slot is hot, and conversely, that spin is likelier to be a losing spin if the slot is cold.

 

[mrmark21]

I wouldn't... Right before I gave up I would give a slot 15-20 spins and if they didn't do anything (and they never did) I would move onto the next slot and try the same thing. Sometimes I would get the feature but most of the time wouldn't see a decent return. Slowly dwindling my balance down to zero... Until BAM I'm where I am right now not paying at any online casinos except for a couple of Playtechs and Video Slots (for the Play N Go games) certainly not MG or Netent.

My advice - listen to your gut

 

[thebigs]

Thanks

Thanks to you all for your views.

I usually play 10 euro per game then move on to next one and do a circle of the 5 games i seem to play more than often.
Unfortunately my bad discipline sometimes means TFRIL gets more than a tenner.

As i say i am keen to find more games and i think i have tried most of the 232 way games on microgaming.

 

[Full tilt]

Good days, bad days

I've been playing TS II quite a bit since November and I allow myself 50 spins then move on if it seems 'cold'. I know people say the games are random but you do seem to get patches where you keep getting features and decent wins in quick succession, it really is just luck and being on the right slot at the right time in my view.

Yesterday I started playing TS II, after 10 spins it gave me a Wildstorm for £30, 2 spins later another WS for £38 then 6 spins later another WS for £31! This was after playing it on Sunday when I had my first 3 wilds on the Wildstorm which paid £189
I carried on playing and took the wild raven feature which paid a very impressive £150 (60p stake) and with my balance at £320 moved on to Voila and in no time my balance was £520, WR completed and time to cash out.

In the past I have decided to up my stake on games when I've had a healthy balance and ended up blowing the lot but I now employ a bit of self discipline and I find I am cashing out regularly with a decent profit.
I've had bad spells before on games like TS II where they seem to hoover up your cash like a Dyson but now I will leave a game for a week or so if I've had a bad experience.

A change is good as a rest as they say- it's just finding the right one to change to that's difficult!

 

[rena35]

Depends on the slot im playing. If i am waiting for the bonus round i usually keep playing until i hit that and then give it a couple of more goes before i move on.

 

[tinybettor]

I usually play either until my balance is gone or until I hit a decent win which I am able to cashout. Its all or nothing for me, I don't like to leave a balance for the next session unless I hit a massive win. In regards to bonus rounds, if it doesn't come for a while, I would only change slots if the base game was also paying crap. If your worried you might be spending too much time, some casinos have a session time limit which might help.

 

[trioval88]

Random

Since slots are random and could hit at any time you just have to ask yourself a question.
"Do you feel lucky punk? Well do you?"
I just play on gut instinct since there is no real way to tell when one is hot or cold.

 

[243 lines=daft]

Slots have a very large house edge so if I thought for one second that
1 - the chance of hitting a particularly good payout was the same at every given moment
and
2- slot payout heat/cold was a fallacy
then quite simply I wouldn't bother playing them. But I do, because based on my own experience, slot RNGs at any given point seem to be picking from slightly different pools of numbers
I have no way of knowing, it is just what I 'feel', but until documentation is shown that proves that feeling to be a fallacy I don't understand why some feel they have the right to stamp on any discussion about how house edge and RTP really plays out on these slots.

Walk into any b'n'm casino and you can instantly pick up leaflets about exactly how the mechanics of roulette or blackjack play out (including how the edge is arrived at) yet I've never seen documentation with an exact definition from big online casinos as to whether any factors except pure randomness are a factor in any given result.

I have asked in the past for someone to find/post any statement from the big online casino software companies that addresses that particular point, and nobody was ever able to produce one.