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The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
Wow. That's unsettling.
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
This is written by someone who is clearly ignorant of history of Rival, and I'm specifically thinking about the Tradition vs JHV/SamD case.
We already know for a fact that Rival operators can change game settings on the fly. This was proved and admitted in the Tradition case. We also know for a fact that RTP-settings for slots are adjustable. This would not be detected by the player, because the pay table would remain the same.
It's worth noting that KK decided to thank SlotsLover for this post. I'm sure SlotsLover has the best intentions, and is simply uninformed. KK, on the other hand, is informed. Why does KK thank a poster who he knows is uninformed? (That's a rhetorical question.)
Curacao - Netherland AntillesAre Rival licensed by anyone? Who do TiV report in to? I seriously doubt that any software that has the ability to alter RTP is licensed by any decent jurisdiction
It's worth noting that I thanked his post because it was a balanced view and I totally agree with everything he said.It's worth noting that KK decided to thank SlotsLover for this post. I'm sure SlotsLover has the best intentions, and is simply uninformed. KK, on the other hand, is informed. Why does KK thank a poster who he knows is uninformed? (That's a rhetorical question.)
Curacao - Netherland Antilles
Hi all,
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
Seems like my comments on all the relevant subjects of this thread started in early 2008 and basically never ceased......Do not like seeing anyone beat out of a dime, but $80K is a drop in the bucket if you get my drift.
I get it Nash.
I once posted that it seemed unusual for John Wright (who I have forgiven personally but that is it) to be both the casino and affiliate manager of TIV. I suspected he actually owned and/or still owns (per se) TIV along with eventually other casinos. This may indirectly have created some of the backlash with his former colleagues.
The above is speculative but should not be hard for Bryan to elaborate on based on his Rival owner contact. The ownership of Rival as Jet and I among others have pursued is a complicated clusterfuck with the intent to deceive so who knows if Bryan is being misled!
It's gonna be interesting to hear the rest of this story, that is if we do. I hope we get to hear it ALL.
Hi all,
I'm just getting started on this one...
I really hate to say this, but I seriously doubt the OP will see $8 dollars worth of his $80k winnings. The writing has been on the wall for a number of months now that there are software and payment issues with Rival. They just don't seem to have the capability of paying anyone - affiliates included.
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
over 9 years and I have never seen any evidence of operators "changing RTPs on the fly" as proposed by some people here.
I'm sorry if some people have different opinions - nothing I can do about that.
I never said Rival RTPs can't be changed - though I seriously doubt they can be done "on the fly" i.e. while a customer is actually playing.There are facts, and there are opinions.
Fact: game rules and payouts for blackjack can be changed on the fly, on Rival software
Fact: Rival RTPs are adjustable
LOL.............I want to see your solid indisputable evidence for starters on your numerous posts claiming, lol , that you have been winning for years, even month after month using basically boni, money management and discipline. BTW, your claims of money management and discipline skills are gambling fallacies. That I can prove with solid indisputable evidence (in another thread whenever you are ready).I never said Rival RTPs can't be changed - though I seriously doubt they can be done "on the fly" i.e. while a customer is actually playing.
I also think it's very unlikely that the RTPs on their slots can be changed at all.
(With one possible exception, before Maphesto leaps in! )
We know this can be done on other softwares though; RTG and Wagerworks for sure have different selectable RTPs on their slots, and RTG can change the RTP of their Blackjack by adjusting the number of decks, and on Video Poker through their pay-tables.
If you have solid, indisputable evidence that Rival can change the RTP on games during play I think you should bring it out into the open as I'm sure many people, including myself, would find it very interesting reading!
Thanks.
KK
If you have solid, indisputable evidence that Rival can change the RTP on games during play I think you should bring it out into the open as I'm sure many people, including myself, would find it very interesting reading!
Thanks.
Blackjack RTP could not even be determined for months due to the split button malfunction. Deliberate, hell yes as all Rival BJ hand histories should have been audited and some type of fair, lol, compensation offered to the effected Rival players.This was proved in the Tradition vs. SamD thread. You just chose to ignore the evidence.
Casinomeister, from the sounds of your posting, it seems as though I should not be investing further valuable time in chasing this. Is that pretty much the jist of things from your point of view ? If so and you strongly believe that I would end up with less that 0.001% of what TIV owe me then i'm truly done and won't chase this further.....Congrats Rival, another casino of yours has managed to weasel out of paying a legitimate large win...I guess the longer you ignore requests, emails, bad pr, it will eventually go away..great business ethics and management......to the owners of Rival, *snip*, well you guys should know better...i would think that you're too busy addressing complaint emails flooding into your email box.
Blackjack RTP could not even be determined for months due to the split button malfunction. Deliberate, hell yes as all Rival BJ hand histories should have been audited and some type of fair, lol, compensation offered to the effected Rival players.
Of course as I anticipated, as far as Rival was concerned the theft of funds from BJ players never occurred even after John Wright admits I was correct and the problem prolly existed from Day One afaik.
All explained here!! https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...inos-are-rogue-all-evidence-shown-here.37010/
.........Rival affiliates (many) are currently being paid per this linked post below as well as other posts in the same thread.Hi all,
I'm just getting started on this one...
I really hate to say this, but I seriously doubt the OP will see $8 dollars worth of his $80k winnings. The writing has been on the wall for a number of months now that there are software and payment issues with Rival. They just don't seem to have the capability of paying anyone - affiliates included
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
Great post Rusty...........You get it...........Thanks for the thumbs up, much appreciated.........I ceased all my Rival play in Jan. 2009 (one exception to get some current BJ info. one year later in Jan.2010 only at a non-WL) for many Rival related reasons but there is a post here somewhere that I summarized all---> I no longer had any reason to TRUST Rival (based on facts et al)........paraphrasing your statement Rusty, not a damn thing has changed.......except for the worse it appears!!Hey Nash, I missed that thread for some reason.
I read your post and a few others and as I see it is possible that this was a programming error (incorrect hit box specification) though it is equally possible it was done deliberately (It is a hell of an oversight as setting a button hitbox is a very simple task)
You are dead right though, Rival should absolutely have compensated all losing hands where this error occurred or may have occurred - the fact they did not and went into denial mode is very much the modus operandi for Rival though.
I said a long time I ago I wouldn't touch them with a 10' bargepole along with quite a few others here (notably Pinababy) and everything I have seen since has only confirmed my misgivings.
Still all the past has mostly been swept under the carpet (The same one you keep kicking and turning over.) and I think I will take a step back andsee what comes of these apparently very well founded allegations that the Rival software can and has been tampered with by various Casinos.
... Bryan, can you say who logged in y-day to the forum using the account name "thisisvegas"?
We reserve the right to discard any PAB where that same issue has been posted to the boards. This relates to threads started by, or contributions to other threads by, the person who filed the PAB. This applies equally to posts made before or after the PAB was filed.
We know this can be done on other softwares though; RTG and Wagerworks for sure have different selectable RTPs on their slots, and RTG can change the RTP of their Blackjack by adjusting the number of decks, and on Video Poker through their pay-tables.
KK