UKGC casino -- outrageous withdrawal and ID processing

buttercup1

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Hi all - new to the site - bear with me and withdrawal issues, as I can see are a regular topic of conversation:rolleyes:

So, I am experiencing withdrawal issues - I was depositing money - fairly large sum - circa £3500 over a period of 4-6 weeks, and already had a payout from the Casino for over £600, No ID asked for - I then won £2300 and tried to withdraw when the issues started and they blocked the withdrawal.

They then asked for ID (SOW, selfie, utility bill, driving licence or passport and a unredacted bank statement showing money in and paid to them!!!)
I have provided all the documents, even though I think an unredacted bank statement is an over reach, I am aware UKGC have implemented some draconian rules for the casinos to follow - which has resulted in giving the casinos too much information over your spending IMO

Received confirmation emails stating documents ok and website confirms ID passed
Specifically said - Bank statement had been accepted, see below copy response - but with a new set of questions!

'The bank statement you have provided has now been accepted, however there are some questions we would like to ask to help us fully understand the statement.

Proof of Income:

  • We have noticed several transactions of £54.04 sent on the 25th October to "TheShop314 Uzbekistan" would you be able to confirm the nature and purpose of these payments?
  • We also noticed 2 transactions of similar amounts to "Acap Estonia" on the 24th October would you also be able to confirm the nature and purpose of these transactions?'
I replied saying 'these are from the same online gaming company ' Maybe this was too vague a response, but I did not want to name the site to them, don't know why as they could see everything else?

The online site - I now believe to be a scam site (bigwins1) with a curacao bogus licence - I did not realise when making the deposits it would be to/from these places or that it was a potentially dodgy site (out of jurisdiction probably) and have now blocked them

I have since received 2 emails - stating on the 1st they will be back to me within a day and the 2nd

'Thank you for your continued patience whilst we look into your query.
This is still being looked into for you but unfortunately it is taking a little longer then first advised.

We aim to be back in contact with you no later than two working days with any progress but this can be much sooner.

Please be assured that your query is of the utmost importance to us and is receiving our full attention'

Think these maybe bot responses


My question is, if the bank statement is accepted, why are they scrutinising all my transactions and are they not bound by time restrictions?

is there a regualtion I can quote to them or should I just ask them to close the account, therefore generating the return of deposits or the winnings ?
I think I've read on the other forum chats that's what to do/happens - I would phone them but cannot find a number


I feel like if the casino don't agree with my life/spending choices they will stop my account or ask more intrusive questions, hold up withdrawals and anything else they fancy. That is surely not what the regulation is for - it seems heavy handed and will put me off providing any details again and I think a lot of players are of the same opinion.

sorry for the long winded waffle - just frustrated 🙁
 
Sorry if I've missed it but is this a UKGC-licensed casino? If not then the SOW stuff is probably just them taking the piss. If yes ... ugh, that quickly becomes a muddled situation.

Ooops, just saw it is BigWins. Yes, definitely them taking the piss. There is no reason on earth that a fake license casino needs anything from you other than your deposit method and maybe an e-wallet account to transfer to. They're giving you the run-around hoping you'll blow your cash in frustration.

See here for our Warning on this low-life group of casinos: Global Games Tech Ltd & Mad Entertainment : bogus licensing claims, rogue casinos. - Casinomeister Forum .

- Max
 
they are UKGC
Are you totally sure of that? You'll see in that Warning I linked to that there is a BigWins casino that is making 100% fake license claims.

- Max
 
sorry - if i wasnt clear

Bigwins1 - i know is bogus -

The casino - I have submitted documents etc to and are trying to get withdrawal from are querying the transactions to them - i have checked their licence on UGC and they are there
 
Are you totally sure of that? You'll see in that Warning I linked to that there is a BigWins casino that is making 100% fake license claims.

- Max

Think the reference to bigwins was for the transactions the casino queried when bank statement was provided. Bigwins was the casino that the deposits went to weird places and not the casino that is holding the withdrawal whilst running checks.
 
Whoopsy, my bad. Thanks @paul7388 for the correction. :thumbsup:

Ok, getting back to the topic at hand then. Sorry to say that we're seeing (some) UKGC-licensed casinos becoming more and more invasive in their SOW demands. They're justifying this -- right or wrong -- as necessary because of the ever-increasing UKGC demands and punitive actions being taken against the casinos. The bottom line though is that some players are (almost) having to give blood and saliva samples in order to get their money. And the "close account, return balance" thing is being skirted with claims of Responsible Gambling necessities and similar bum-fluff.

Sounds like the OP is caught up in this same snafu. Unfortunately there is no tried-and-true means of escape that I'm aware of, other than giving the casino everything they want.

- Max
 
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I had a feeling that may be the case :mad:

I'll have to wait - but, it does leave a rather sour taste about the OP and UKGC
 
I'll have to wait - but, it does leave a rather sour taste about the OP and UKGC

No arguments there! Unfortunately the UKGC is pretty much immune to what any of us thinks and are happy to lay waste to the UK casino industry for reasons of their own. It sucks but c'est la vie.

- Max
 
I'm confused why the casino is demanding to know to whom you sent money on occasions? A unrelated third party, in this case a casino, is getting money from OP. It wasn't even money coming in, just going out.

What business does this UKGC casino have with your outgoing payments in general? Regardless of their nature.
 
What business does this UKGC casino have with your outgoing payments in general?
UKGC applies for Enhanced Due Dilligence the AML directive as per Europe. AML directive 5 is applicable atm i believe, could be 6. So its not per se limited to the UKGC demands.
 
think uk opted out of 6 in 2021 (although that could've changed) - the directive tho' is above my full understanding and quite long !

I still havent had a response - should i contact them and explain who i paid the money too ?

this is all abit frustrating
 

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