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"Yes" or "no" please, I don't want there to be any misunderstandings down the road.
- Max
- Max
Fair enough. I will proceed as previously described.Yes understood.
Thank you.Fair enough. I will proceed as previously described.
- Max
If they say "no", or give no reply at all, then that's "game over" in terms of us being able to help you. This would be the end of the road for us and our involvement with this particular complaint. This means "case closed": no re-do's, no "but I found this", no nothing. Fini.
Do you understand and accept all that?
Donāt mean to chime in here - but I remember being Given $50 bonus cash from Cashino ? I think - decided to play Razor shark $5 spins (was $5 max on bonus)I see you've posted yet again on this subject. We'll take that as your closing remarks. Allow me to make a few closing remarks as well.
The unfortunate truth of your case is that you never "won that money fair and square" because you were still playing within the restrictions of a bonus that capped your winnings. The designated ADR -- ThePogg -- told you this, I read their work on the case and supported that conclusion. I see CasinoGuru has also done the same. The conclusion is clear: you were never entitled to that 150 grand because of the bonus restrictions -- specifically Max WD -- that were still in effect at the time.
The problem here is that none of that matters to you. Early on in this process you set yourself the goal of getting that money, full stop. Reason, rules, truthfullness and anything else that got in your way has been nothing more than an irritation to you. You had set your goal and that was that, anything that wasn't helpful to you was white noise and simply ignored. Anything that might help you, or at least keep the conversation going, was fair game regardless of truth, reality or facts to the contrary.
This is what's known as the Marcia Gay Harden Effect after her role as Mrs Carmody in The Mist: set your goal, grasp onto anything that might help, disregard anything that doesn't help, and never quit.
The problem with this is that it is fundamentally disrespectful to anyone who crosses your path. If they help you that's great and they're useful, for the moment. If they disagree and/or don't help you then they are dead to you, ignore what they say and forget them.
As evidence of this I point to the fact that you've ignored both ThePogg and CasinoGuru in their decisions on your case. At one point you came to us but repeatedly ignored and violated the PAB rules: you never told us that you'd gone to ThePogg, or eCOGRA after that. You claimed to be a rookie and not know how things worked but when it was explained to you you couldn't be bothered to listen. Through all of this you've failed to mention having gone to CasinoGuru and failing there too. When given advice or guidance on your case you just ignore it, or twist it into something you think you can use.
Those play records for example, what evidence do they have that supports your case? None, which is exactly what ThePogg told you. But that hasn't stopped you throwing them into the conversation for random reasons. First it was "the casino is hiding something!" because supposedly they wouldn't give you the records. And then they did, in pretty much exactly the time frame they said they would.
The bottom line is do those records show that you had fully completed the bonus requirements in their entirety? No, they do not. All this bumff about playing on "my money" or Loyalty Points or whatever is just rubbish. You're only saying that to keep the conversation going. Might as well say "records show I played on a Wednesday!" or "my birthday is in June!" So what? What relevance does that have? None, but that's not the point is it? It's something to say to keep people talking -- or so you imagine -- and that makes it fair game as far as you are concerned.
I've warned you that the end result of all this will be that doors will close on you: people eventually just stop listening, largely out of self-defence. I've taken the time -- one last time -- to explain why we're now doing the same.
I never take a bonus unless my account at zero and itās free $$, with no depositing required - as you get stiffed somewhere if you ever winYeah, bonus Terms can be a real PITA. MANY of the cases I've dealt with over the years have been exactly because of that, bonus Terms that bite.
FWIW, most experienced players I know don't bother with bonuses anymore, too much hassle. But I do understand the lure of "free money" to play with. Problem is (of course) that it's never really "free" and players often end up paying for it dearly.
I'm very careful with the bonuses I accept. I don't mind max bet as I'm a low roller for the most part, but will never take one with max cashout or a big list of restricted games. Easier to play raw at that point.I never take a bonus unless my account at zero and itās free $$, with no depositing required - as you get stiffed somewhere if you ever win