N1 Casino: the haters gonna hate

Just to chime in again... :p

I am still waiting for those five players who were ripped off to PLEASE submit a PAB.

Like Max said, we work with facts and not bitching and moaning from elsewhere. If N1 was so dastardly nasty, there would be a ton of complaints submitted here. And seriously, only a small handful could actually change the status of the casino here at Casinomeister. Even one really bad one could tip the scales if they seriously violated our standards for CM Accredited Casinos

At this point, it's looking like a bunch of hooey to me - RE: those unsubmitted complaints.
 
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Is the affiliate revenue running out here on these forums? Stop promoting this casino. Seriously, the advertised RTP vs with what you actually will have or get is far off. Second; small withdrawals might not impose an issue, you will on the larger ones ( N1bet unusual verification process - Casinomeister Forum ) . They suddenly become very problematic, stall you and throw you to death with SOW/KYC's. If thats what you want to send your visitors in or to then afterall it's just about money.
Big balls....I like it
 
I get where you're coming from, but we don't take into consideration complaints posted elsewhere since we cannot verify them. People can post whatever they want on the Internets, but to entertain these grumblings without verfying that the complaint is legit would be unfair, wouldn't you agree?

We have a popular and widely known arbitration system that has been in place for over 20 years. And we are hands down the most qualified and experienced arbitrators in the business. Not tooting my own horn here, but just pointing out that some folks might feel inclined NOT to complain here since we can tell the chaff from the the good stuff.

A player not paid is not a profit for a casino since in many cases players receive their deposits back. The one who loses here are the casinos that invest incredible man hours playing whack-a-mole with folks who try to game the system. Not saying everyone is trying to game the system, but I'm sure you get what I'm saying.

Nothing here is etched in stone. The reviews and scoring can be dynamic, and it's no skin off my back if a highly rated casino starts losing points. I don't care. I only care about providing our membership with an accurate depiction of what they can expect when or if they decide to join up. If you want to assist in this, you can join the Meister Minions and help on rate these casinos with your experiences.
U sound like a bot m8. Sry
 
Big balls....I like it
It doesn't take gonads to make inaccurate comments. Or is that "big balls" to you? :)

I guess you just want entertainment - am I correct?

Both Max and I have explained repeatedly that many of the comments being made are unfounded. And if there is evidence of manipulated RTPs, players being ripped off, and other nefarious activities, then PLEASE we need this info to make the reviews here accurate. No one has produced anything so far - we are still waiting.
 
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I have to agree on some postings here, and i'm sure you'll find the same simular "red line" about the way N1 deals with it's paying customers. It's no secret that some casino's do hate players that win. Do hate paying out. Because paying out is on the balances a less overall profit. I've dealth with scammers in my profession and they had a simular tactic. Just take the money and provide no service. They would top it off with a excuse the client would be baffled about and that was it. No way they could perform any legal action(s) over such a low amount of funds.

Don't forget, that casino is in curacao and to even take it legal your looking at a lawyer, a translator and civil court costs, which can easily raise to 15k and you don't even have a case yet. Because of that, this jurisdictional invincibility, they kind of can get away "here and there" by picking on random players who don't have a clue on what's going on, what their rights are or just threat 'm as frigging gambling addicts.

If you spawn up N1 casino review you'll 100% find simular reviews, not just the ones here. Ive bin in there myself and i cannot say i left that place with a happy ending. It is also due to one of the affiliate partners of N1 who kind of wrote an email right out of nowhere claiming to stop the program, while hundreds of euro's due to affiliate revenue, is left unpaid. I mean that's the type of business your dealing with. There's nothing you can do about it.

When i got into the N1 thing years ago, i quickly learned that quite some reviews are too positive for the place it really is. It does'nt suprise me a marketing agency has performed the various reviews all over the board or place on the internet. You can tell by the simple stuff like "Great for german players" (While germany is considered a A+ country) or any of the other, obvious clues. The overal RTP in my experience, esp when your playing on a sub-casino site that shares the same license, might be advertised 96.5% but the reality is quite lower.

Ive played on a curacao casino before; that would not have RTP per game, but RTP overall on the place. Basicly all deposits are distributed among all players, with a 96.5% and they simply license the games. Still legal ofcourse.

Any casino from Curacao should be avoided, in my opinion. The problem is in such countries corruption and money do go hand by hand. Please prove me otherwise. I'm sure N1 started to feel financially the "damage" they where causing and the rising bad reviews, so surely something had to happen. If that brand wants to continue to be a recommended place to play at, i'd suggest stopping to screw it's players. Stop the ridiculous SOW / KYC procedure's, it's not like it's a high-end license or anything. It's used as an excuse to avoid paying out. If players play, win, they should be paid. It's simple as that.

I'd feel like writing half of the internet now with, hey guys, Casinomeister is requesting PAB's to be opened if you ever had issues with N1. Perhaps this could give some insights to Casinomeister itself that most story's on the internet are'nt fabricated or sucked out of a left thumb, but reflect reality of what's going on. And that that listing on this website with recommended casino's might be looked at with a magnifying glass.

Big balls....I like it

This is what i like about this forum. You are able to express yourself freely (with respect) and there's no ban hammering on voicing your opinion. Remember that.

And no asking how much a player earns on a yearly basis has nothing todo with KYC - but obvious marketing attempts. Who are the richest players and who we can suck into the VIP program? A normal KYC is a simple proof of identity, proof of adress, and a proof of transaction (i.e Bank or Credit Card). Thats all the information a casino should know and nothing more.
 
I used to love playing at casinos managed by N1 interactive group but then I started getting these emails, from all of them.

Hello.
I hope you are doing well.
Due to the current legal obligation to Maltese regulations related to "know your customer" procedure,
we are obliged to ensure that our records are up to date and accurate.
As part of our ongoing process to maintain our records updated,
you are kindly requested to provide us with the documents:

- valid passport, ID or Driver License (from both sides);
- proof of address ( Examples: Utility bill, cell phone bill, electricity bill, bank statement or any other official document which can prove the address which is provided in your profile), document should be not older for 3 months;

Also, I kindly ask you to fill in the questionnaire (see below).

While your account is open you may upload the mentioned documents to your account
or send them to me. I will help.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.


1.What is your main source of income?
Salary - employment
Salary - self-employment
Pension
Dividends
Inheritance
Winnings
Savings
Sale of property
Crypto mining
Trading
Other - please specify

2. Do you have other sources of income?
Salary - employment
Salary - self-employment
Pension
Dividends
Inheritance
Winnings
Savings
Sale of property
Crypto mining
Trading
Other - please specify

3. What are your total annual earnings?
·€0 – €29,999
·€30,000 – €49,999
·€50,000 – €89,000
·€90,000 +

4. What is your expected level of spending per year?
·€0 – €10,000
·€10,001 – €20,000
·€20,001 – €30,000
·€30,001 – €40,000
·€40,000 +

5. What is your employment status?
Employed (full time)
Employed (part-time)
Self-employed
Temporarily not working
Unemployed
Retired
Student

6. What is your primary occupation?

7. What is your nationality?

8. What is your place of birth?

With kindest regards and all the best luck,

Sincerely yours,
Cheeky effers
 
Excuse me but where's the proof? Random internet tales of woe are not proof. If there were so many hard-done-by players I would have expected to see some of that via the PAB process. I have not. And that is what I base my statements on.

As to "shilling" I suggest you have a (re)read of the Forum Rules. Slagging off Casinomeister on Casinomeister is going to get you fast-tracked to the curb.

- Max
So we're not allowed to make negative or disparaging comments about casinomeister.com without being punished?
 
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So we're not allowed to make negative or disparaging comments about casinomeister.com without being punished?
I'm not even going to respond to that except to say I have run this forum for 25 years and have yet to be an asshole. So take that for what it's worth.

We have rules on how to behave here - and most everyone is happy with that.

@Jeroensgambling Curacao?
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So we're not allowed to make negative or disparaging comments about casinomeister.com without being punished?
Not sure what game you think you're playing here but you can read the Forum Rules as well as anyone else can. For your edification I'll point you in the right direction:
1.19 - Posting defamatory comments or conducting malicious attacks directed at Casinomeister: Members who slander, post defamatory comments or other personal garbage directed toward the Casinomeister brand, its owner, employees, or moderators, anywhere on the Internet will be swiftly booted from the site. Spamming, DDoS attacks, or any other criminal activity will be dealt with as well.

Being a PITA, a troll or both will get you booted to the curb. Other than than follow the Rules and you should be fine.
 
Being disrepectful to the moderators or admins of this forum will not be tolerated.
Again, no proof. When there is proof we'll take action on it. Until then you guys are barking up the wrong tree.

AFTR, I said "systemic" problems, meaning "of or relating to a system, especially when affecting the entirety of a thing". The claims have been that N1 is corrupt and cheating players. Our evidence and experience does not support those claims, not even remotely. Hence my statement.
Yadda yadda yadda
 
I have to agree on some postings here, and i'm sure you'll find the same simular "red line" about the way N1 deals with it's paying customers. It's no secret that some casino's do hate players that win. Do hate paying out. Because paying out is on the balances a less overall profit. I've dealth with scammers in my profession and they had a simular tactic. Just take the money and provide no service. They would top it off with a excuse the client would be baffled about and that was it. No way they could perform any legal action(s) over such a low amount of funds.
I believe you are wrong here. Casinos like player retention. And the successful casinos enjoy paying out winners because a winning player wins, spreads the word, and will usually come back. This goes for land based as well.

It's only the amateur fly-by-night casinos that loath winners and try to find excuses not to pay.

Don't forget, that casino is in curacao...
It's licensed in Malta.

I'd feel like writing half of the internet now with, hey guys, Casinomeister is requesting PAB's to be opened if you ever had issues with N1. Perhaps this could give some insights to Casinomeister itself that most story's on the internet are'nt fabricated or sucked out of a left thumb, but reflect reality of what's going on. And that that listing on this website with recommended casino's might be looked at with a magnifying glass.

Seriously, please do. We will deal with any complaint that is legitimate and is within the scope of our complaints system. :thumbsup:
 
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Infraction for posting trollish comments.
The title of this thread should be changed to Crackheads Assemble. People judging a forum Administrator because he debates with valid points. Each and every bad loser going after a casino because they lost money or broke terms. You people made some choices and suffered.
N1 did a mistake by going with hat guy for promotion and I get that part but people need to get over it.
So ur a meister shill? At least now we know
 
@nfehily - as I mentioned we have rules here. Misbehave and you get no bones. You're in the doghouse with 30 points against you. By 19 April, 15 of those points will expire and you should be able to begin posting again. I hope you'll be a bit less trollish and disrespectful by then.
 
BTW - I have updated my comment above the fold for N1's review.

N1 Casino is a pretty solid casino. It offers players a huge range of games, instant cashouts and a decent welcome bonus. They are a Maltese licensed casino that has a track record at Casinomeister of being pretty good - they are responsive and fair.

There are some grumblings on the Internet about this casino, but so far we have not seen any evidence of wrongdoing. We have appealed to the player community at large to provide evidence of stalled winnings, maligned RTPs, or anything unbecoming of an online casino, and nothing has been presented to us. So we aren’t including the unfounded complaints or rumors in this review.

You can’t believe everything you read on the Internet – yeah we get that. But you can’t fairly make judgements on business entities based on rumors or hearsay. So I am waiting with bated breath for those complaints to come in. If or when we get those reasonable or warranted complaints, we will be updating this review accordingly.
 
You can't blame the guy that deals with complaints. N1, let's call them like that because they are the only ones having to mention they are an entirely different casino than their sister site with same practice. Well, they are excellent at being fair and straight to the point with the right persons. Why would they be with anyone without influence or potential big long term profit? The usual pseudo regular that dumps a couple thousand a year, is the target. Why would anyone believe him anyway? A gambler is a gambler right? People going nuts and losing their house with reversed withdrawals won't ever be the stars. Makes more sense to do business with an n1 rep that always pays on time vs listen to a problematic person that sounds like the last one that lied since day one. Sorry but I can't resist with the devil's advocate urge.
Just stop playing at n1 guys? Unless you enjoy being humiliated over a decade.
Dude i did not blame him for handling the complains , but i will be honest i am blaming him for having that Review on them. Yes i understand his point , but be aware of 1 thing @hhhelllo , some players are looking to that review and they think N1 is the one of the best and they go and make deposits , or maybe just 1 if they are unlucky and win from the 1st :).
In the end this forum is what it is because of all of us , yes someone made this forum , but it it was imposibile to be heard without "us".
I hope all of you got my point here , and as i said i have a lot of respect for this forum
 
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For the sake of everything..what is the 1k caracters thing on PAB?
Let's not derail this thread with unrelated material. I'll answer your question in your PAB. If you really want to discuss it in public feel free to start a new thread in the Ask The Meister section.

- Max
 
Dude i did not blame him for handling the complains , but i will be honest i am blaming him for having that Review on them. Yes i understand his point , but be aware of 1 thing @hhhelllo , some players are looking to that review and they think N1 is the one of the best and they go and make deposits , or maybe just 1 if they are unlucky and win from the 1st :).
In the end this forum is what it is because of all of us , yes someone made this forum , but it it was imposibile to be heard without "us".
I hope all of you got my point here , and as i said i have a lot of respect for this forum
I think you might be struggling with the reality of who does what here. Max Drayman is the complaints manager. Beside dealing with complaints, he also is a senior moderator of this forum and my wingman at conferences. As for the reviews, these are written by other staff members. Max's only input on the review is his little bit of real estate "From the Desk of Max Drayman" where he details OUR EXPERIENCE of submitted complaints. There is no rah rah cheer leader promotion or ANYTHING misleading. There are two scores - one is from our internal scoring system which is based on clear cut data (explained ad nauseam in the forum and elsewhere), and another that is based on opinions of our Meister Minions.

So if there is any "blaming" to do about having an unbiased review, then explain why (in another thread ) we should base our reviews on hooey posted elsewhere? That is not an unbiased review. :D

Another bit of information that you are probably not aware of, there is a disconnect between the complaints department and our advertising. In other words, Max has not a clue on which casinos are buy advertising or are doing well with promotions, or any earnings made from any casino on the site. This keeps our complaints system free from bias and is based only on what is at hand for complaints.

Max has nothing to do with any of the marketing aspects, scorings, etc. of our Accredited Casinos. Which I think most folks here would be grateful for. None of our competitors do this, and I doubt none will in the future.
 
I think you might be struggling with the reality of who does what here. Max Drayman is the complaints manager. Beside dealing with complaints, he also is a senior moderator of this forum and my wingman at conferences. As for the reviews, these are written by other staff members. Max's only input on the review is his little bit of real estate "From the Desk of Max Drayman" where he details OUR EXPERIENCE of submitted complaints. There is no rah rah cheer leader promotion or ANYTHING misleading. There are two scores - one is from our internal scoring system which is based on clear cut data (explained ad nauseam in the forum and elsewhere), and another that is based on opinions of our Meister Minions.

So if there is any "blaming" to do about having an unbiased review, then explain why (in another thread ) we should base our reviews on hooey posted elsewhere? That is not an unbiased review. :D

Another bit of information that you are probably not aware of, there is a disconnect between the complaints department and our advertising. In other words, Max has not a clue on which casinos are buy advertising or are doing well with promotions, or any earnings made from any casino on the site. This keeps our complaints system free from bias and is based only on what is at hand for complaints.

Max has nothing to do with any of the marketing aspects, scorings, etc. of our Accredited Casinos. Which I think most folks here would be grateful for. None of our competitors do this, and I doubt none will in the future.
Hi..I was not refering on the "hooey posted elsewhere" things , i was speaking about toughts and experiences from people who are on this forum. Yes they are there a lot of this kind , and i definetly understand the point you are coming from.
I think you have definetly more experience with the casino then a lot of us , and then i am pretty sure that you know that casinos are using all things of tricks and bits to deny anything on the player , but they will be very nice when you enquiry on a pab.
Like i said before, a lot of us will not even bother to come here to open a dispute on a 50 Euro thing , or a missleading bonus or etc. That dosent mean they do not exist.
Regarding the "bit of information"...how do you expect someone who read that review will know that information? I saw "from the desk of..." , but like i said that was MY PERSONAL opinion on that matter , even i am aware of the "rule" you are applyng .
Make a test..Open a pool and ask the comunity to vote if N1 showld have that review , and you can take in account votes who come from old and experienced members ...Then you will see what democracy will dictate....
 
@Subyzero - gotcha. Fully understand and we can do this for N1 Casino. We have the Meister Minions who are able to comment on the casinos and this is added to the review. I will check on this today/tomorrow.

Edited to add: there ARE comments from our members there. Scroll to the bottom. Six reviews from our Meister Minions, all positive, but all a few years old. But these are there if you'd just look.
N1 Casino
 
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Hey guys!

I've decided to find a couple of minutes and chime in here. Quite a lengthy thread and quite disappointing, to be honest. N1 casino is one of our WL's and we are obviously trying to keep all our WL's clean and pleasant, and I believe the CM team including any other ADR (alternative dispute resolution service) can confirm that our team always happy to assist with any complaint/problem.

Here I can just see some people not happy about N1 casino, but instead of stopping playing and moving on we still have this thread. If anyone from this thread and / or reading this thread feel himself scammed you can easily submit PAB as Bryan offered many times.

Also small note RE SOW/SOF requests. Guys, if you really do believe that ANY casino operator is happy to request and couple of times and keep verifying everything multiple times - think about it from the business side. We request it because we are required to request it, simple as that. It's a big hassle, a huge problem, but I suppose there should be N1 rep and if something happens you can always dig into details and discuss it with him.

Just my 2 cents :)

Br,

V.
 
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