OK guys&girls, i did some some more research and analysis with regards to the statement that the amount of players active on a slot has no influence on the game.
To do this cheaply (without investing my gaming funds) and most reliably i took the Videoslots Free Battles because i can see all results as well as the amount of players.
- VS started with 90 players max./battle
- Increased to 200
- Increase to 500
- I refer to 3 specific battles as those are the ones i play regularly myself:
a. 0415am 250FS Gonzo's Quest Freezeout
b. 1615pm 240FS Twin Spin Winner Takes All (previously 120FS)
c. 1815pm 1000FS Twin Spin (slot varies) Freezeout (previously 500FS)
a.
- starting balance 2000 points - 100 bets @ 20 points
- FS from 1st - 38th place
- average amount of players - 90-100
- average score to qualify for some spins - 2000
- rarely a result of 10,000 points
- average for placing 1st - 6.400 points
- average for placing 38th - 1.800
I score here 9/10 some FS
Today's results: scored 20th & 6FS with 2,441 points, 38th scored a mere 1,500 (low RTP) and still got some FS
b. - 120FS - max. 90 players
- starting balance 2500 points - 100 spins @ 25 points
- FS for 1st place only
- max. amount of players - 90
- average score to place 1st - appr. 7.400
- rarely a result of 10,000 points, very rare actually
- few places at the bottom with very low results
I ended once in 5th place, never top spot
b. - 240 spins - max. 500 players
- starting balance 2500 points - 100 spins @ 25 points
- FS for 1st place only
- max. amount of players - 500
- average score to place 1st - appr. 13.500
- every battle has minimum 1 result >10,000 points, very very often 2 - 3
- average of 50 players at the bottom with an average result of 1250 points or less, RTP50% and lower
I never ended in the top 20, surely never 1st
c.
- starting balance 2000 or 2500 points - 100 bets @ 20 or 25 points, depending on slot
- FS from 1st - 74th place
- average amount of players - 330 -340
- average score to qualify for some spins - 2500 or 3000
- mostly minimum 1 result >10,000 points, very often 2-3
- average for placing 1st - 9.600 points or 10.600
- average for placing 74th - 2.600 or 3.250
- average >60 bottom players with a very low result, RTP 50% and lower.
I ended once in 3rd place, others were 25th - 74th place a few times, very often 100th and below, worst 205th.
If you look at the numbers above it shows clearly that the amount of players HAS an influence on the slot results, on both ends, the top is higher, the bottom is lower on bigger numbers.
- with max. 90 players an average RTP of 90-95% would guarantee me some FS
- with max. 500 players (actual average appr. 340) i need an RTP of 105-108% to score some FS, and that with FS given up to 74th place
- also the top prizes are always real standouts where you would have to score e.g. on TwinSpin at least 2 Full Screens of 10-A's or Full Diamonds + some medium results within those 100 spins.
Would have more to write but that would just complicate things even further. My conclusion is that the amount of players active on a slot has a DIRECT influence on the payout results into both directions, meaning very high RTP and very low RTP.
To conclude on interlogs statement that playing DOA in the mornings gives better playtime and playing in the afternoon at peak time mostly is much worse with taking the above results into account:
- interlog is probably right
- less players giving on average lower peak payouts but you also have a higher chance to hit the peak payouts due to the lower numbers playing the slot
- more players giving on average higher and more peak payouts but with a lower chance of hitting those as well as very poor results at the bottom end, which would explain the very poor sessions in the afternoon.
To do this cheaply (without investing my gaming funds) and most reliably i took the Videoslots Free Battles because i can see all results as well as the amount of players.
- VS started with 90 players max./battle
- Increased to 200
- Increase to 500
- I refer to 3 specific battles as those are the ones i play regularly myself:
a. 0415am 250FS Gonzo's Quest Freezeout
b. 1615pm 240FS Twin Spin Winner Takes All (previously 120FS)
c. 1815pm 1000FS Twin Spin (slot varies) Freezeout (previously 500FS)
a.
- starting balance 2000 points - 100 bets @ 20 points
- FS from 1st - 38th place
- average amount of players - 90-100
- average score to qualify for some spins - 2000
- rarely a result of 10,000 points
- average for placing 1st - 6.400 points
- average for placing 38th - 1.800
I score here 9/10 some FS
Today's results: scored 20th & 6FS with 2,441 points, 38th scored a mere 1,500 (low RTP) and still got some FS
b. - 120FS - max. 90 players
- starting balance 2500 points - 100 spins @ 25 points
- FS for 1st place only
- max. amount of players - 90
- average score to place 1st - appr. 7.400
- rarely a result of 10,000 points, very rare actually
- few places at the bottom with very low results
I ended once in 5th place, never top spot
b. - 240 spins - max. 500 players
- starting balance 2500 points - 100 spins @ 25 points
- FS for 1st place only
- max. amount of players - 500
- average score to place 1st - appr. 13.500
- every battle has minimum 1 result >10,000 points, very very often 2 - 3
- average of 50 players at the bottom with an average result of 1250 points or less, RTP50% and lower
I never ended in the top 20, surely never 1st
c.
- starting balance 2000 or 2500 points - 100 bets @ 20 or 25 points, depending on slot
- FS from 1st - 74th place
- average amount of players - 330 -340
- average score to qualify for some spins - 2500 or 3000
- mostly minimum 1 result >10,000 points, very often 2-3
- average for placing 1st - 9.600 points or 10.600
- average for placing 74th - 2.600 or 3.250
- average >60 bottom players with a very low result, RTP 50% and lower.
I ended once in 3rd place, others were 25th - 74th place a few times, very often 100th and below, worst 205th.
If you look at the numbers above it shows clearly that the amount of players HAS an influence on the slot results, on both ends, the top is higher, the bottom is lower on bigger numbers.
- with max. 90 players an average RTP of 90-95% would guarantee me some FS
- with max. 500 players (actual average appr. 340) i need an RTP of 105-108% to score some FS, and that with FS given up to 74th place
- also the top prizes are always real standouts where you would have to score e.g. on TwinSpin at least 2 Full Screens of 10-A's or Full Diamonds + some medium results within those 100 spins.
Would have more to write but that would just complicate things even further. My conclusion is that the amount of players active on a slot has a DIRECT influence on the payout results into both directions, meaning very high RTP and very low RTP.
To conclude on interlogs statement that playing DOA in the mornings gives better playtime and playing in the afternoon at peak time mostly is much worse with taking the above results into account:
- interlog is probably right
- less players giving on average lower peak payouts but you also have a higher chance to hit the peak payouts due to the lower numbers playing the slot
- more players giving on average higher and more peak payouts but with a lower chance of hitting those as well as very poor results at the bottom end, which would explain the very poor sessions in the afternoon.
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