clogs VS the casinos (rigged rtp, etc)

[Jono777]

What I have noticed, whether there is anything in it or no, we will sadly never truly know for sure.....

There are a hell of a LOT more losing, bad game play and generally disgruntled players through "fairness" type threads than there was 3-4 years ago, a LOT more.

Does make a cynics mind really boggle.....

 

[thr0b]

What I have noticed, whether there is anything in it or no, we will sadly never truly know for sure.....

There are a hell of a LOT more losing, bad game play and generally disgruntled players through "fairness" type threads than there was 3-4 years ago, a LOT more.

Does make a cynics mind really boggle.....

Lots more advertising of the industry and fewer people playing for fun, more people playing just expecting big wins all of the time, and to always be up on the deal.

 

[TheAddict]

Sounds like you play some highly volatile or high in variance peices of shit. Boom or bust type gambles.
If you want to keep that streak running, I recommend BOD on 1 line at 94%,,

 

[OliverCooper]

@clogs I think it's time to find a different hobby...

Maybe try hitting yourself over the head with a claw hammer - it will probably be less painful than the slots you've been playing

KK

And maybe after this you won’t play slot machines anymore

 

[clogs]

I should pack it in, why lose 99% of the time because they promise one day you will hit super big and win back like 20% of your loses

What is the point of hitting a 60x to then miss the next 40 spins, hit a 2x then miss another 30 spins, it just makes you so angry like you actually believe it's a rigged game.

I play shinning crown, of course il hit 40 out of 200 spins getting 2/3/4x, an then the next session I will hit 5 in 200 spins with 2 x 60x and 3 x 3-5x, coincidence? is it a coincidence when you hit a big one but you don't get any of the smaller hits to keep your balance for a while, but when you get lots of smaller hits to hold your balance you will never see anything that gives you're balance a boost, and if you do get a nice hit while your hitting smaller hits, oh what a suyprise, it's now decided to stop giving you smaller hits until it's taken back your nice hit. When you see this happen time and time and time and time again you know it's rigged.

I would literally bet my life this game is run on algorythms to get you to tilt, it gives you runs of small hits making it enjoyable, then a nice big hit to get the dopamine going, then switches off all hits to put you on tilt as it takes all your profit back immediately and also 30% of your balance , then gives you another nice hit to break even, and you don't expect another bad run, but what a suprise, you get another run of death and half your balance is gone before you hit again.

It's a fruit game, not one of these soon in a bonus to hit big games.

It's a 97%rtp, so does that mean over what, 100, 1000, a million.

It makes you tilt to keep depositing and promises one day you will got that 500x, but it can take you 50k spins by which point your 10,000x down.
Where's the 97%rtp.

 

[satchnz]

Yes, you should pack it in.

 

[clogs]

Don't care what anyone says, I see the game take 90% of your balance giving 5%rtp and then the last 10% puts you on life support giving you 95% rtp meaning you get 5x more spins from the last 10% than the other 90%

Its not a coincidence all the near misses it gives and the patterns of near misses designed to really get you caught up and lose your mind and go on tilt

One day the news will say fbi issues warning slot providers are rigging their games and absolutely noboody will be surprised

All the people who say they not rigged are the same who said the vaccine was safe and tested

 

[turquoise12]

of course they are rigged. Even if you do hit something nice to get your balance a bit closer to what you started with it will always take it back. The computer is designed to do this. Notice how you never hit a nice bonus within the first few thousand spins , it's usually, if at all, when you are low and all it does is keep you going a bit longer. The whole thing is a scam with flashy lights and noises. They are not random despite what they may lead you to think.

 

[goatwack]

Playing Ponzi games that aren't just high-variance but extreme-variance probably doesn't help, given that you'll be forever blowing bubbles. As the Pet Shop Boys used to state: It's A Shin

 

[paul7388]

of course they are rigged. Even if you do hit something nice to get your balance a bit closer to what you started with it will always take it back. The computer is designed to do this. Notice how you never hit a nice bonus within the first few thousand spins , it's usually, if at all, when you are low and all it does is keep you going a bit longer. The whole thing is a scam with flashy lights and noises. They are not random despite what they may lead you to think.

Lol how would you know that if you hit something nice it always claws it back. Same as its usually at least a few thousand spins to get a decent bonus if at all, and even then it only keeps you playing longer.

This is coming from the person that's never hit over 7x stake. Funny never had a win over 7x yet you talk about it clawing nice wins back.

 

[turquoise12]

On that particular casino, yes. I have better luck on Mr Q.

 

[clogs]

Tell people cigarettes are addictive and they say duh, then tell them tobacco companies add loads of things to cigarettes to make them extremely addictive and you know it's not right

Tell people you lose at slots and they say well duh, tell them providers are programming the games to give you sequences that are designed to tilt you and push your brain to chase as you deposit again and again and you know it's not right.

All the near misses during long dry spells and then a big hit to give you hope, but it just takes it all back immediately when you know the game should be giving you plenty of little hits before it can do that

 

[satchnz]

If you put your hand in the fire and the fire burns you, you don’t put your hand back in the fire.

Why continue playing slots when you have such bad experiences and swear they are rigged?

 

[clogs]

Why does a heroin addict keep on injecting?

The provers have designed these crack slots to make sure we are completely addicted to them.

 

[satchnz]

Why does a heroin addict keep on injecting?

The provers have designed these crack slots to make sure we are completely addicted to them.

If you are likening your slotting habit with someone who has a heroin addiction then you definitely need to get some help. There are many people on this forum who can point you in the right direction.

 

[clogs]

Been gambling 20 years and it's robbed me of my soul, it's the worst addiction anyone can have

Time to quit. One day il get a significant inheritance and the last thing I'm going to do is watch it all go on gambling

 

[satchnz]

Been gambling 20 years and it's robbed me of my soul, it's the worst addiction anyone can have

Time to quit. One day il get a significant inheritance and the last thing I'm going to do is watch it all go on gambling

Please don’t, and please get some help.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Surely £20 spins on Bonanza should suffice???

 

[MahoneyKnows]

Games designers have surely employed psychologists and the like to jam the games full of predatory tactics which feed into the mind of a person to trigger those degenerate tendencies and keep the person playing and ultimately losing. Why do you think booze is free in Vegas…? Because it lowers inhibitions and increases someone’s probability of doing stupid things…. Just like after a night out of heavy drinking you’ll find a guy or girl getting with someone they never would. Aversion to risk is out the window and rationale is but a memory. Of course we’d find the games boring without the bells, whistles and flashing lights - but they have been weaponized to destroy a persons typical behaviours and illicit dopamine hits that fade fast and keep us wanting more.

 

[flexis]

I should pack it in, why lose 99% of the time because they promise one day you will hit super big and win back like 20% of your loses

What is the point of hitting a 60x to then miss the next 40 spins, hit a 2x then miss another 30 spins, it just makes you so angry like you actually believe it's a rigged game.

I play shinning crown, of course il hit 40 out of 200 spins getting 2/3/4x, an then the next session I will hit 5 in 200 spins with 2 x 60x and 3 x 3-5x, coincidence? is it a coincidence when you hit a big one but you don't get any of the smaller hits to keep your balance for a while, but when you get lots of smaller hits to hold your balance you will never see anything that gives you're balance a boost, and if you do get a nice hit while your hitting smaller hits, oh what a suyprise, it's now decided to stop giving you smaller hits until it's taken back your nice hit. When you see this happen time and time and time and time again you know it's rigged.

I would literally bet my life this game is run on algorythms to get you to tilt, it gives you runs of small hits making it enjoyable, then a nice big hit to get the dopamine going, then switches off all hits to put you on tilt as it takes all your profit back immediately and also 30% of your balance , then gives you another nice hit to break even, and you don't expect another bad run, but what a suprise, you get another run of death and half your balance is gone before you hit again.

It's a fruit game, not one of these soon in a bonus to hit big games.

It's a 97%rtp, so does that mean over what, 100, 1000, a million.

It makes you tilt to keep depositing and promises one day you will got that 500x, but it can take you 50k spins by which point your 10,000x down.
Where's the 97%rtp.

suggestion, if ur fed up then just don't play

 

[clogs]

That's the plan

 

[MahoneyKnows]

That's the plan

Close all your accounts with haste - no half assing it or allowing the urge to tempt you into reloading.

If you need to gamble I suggest setting an affordable number and throwing some small money on sports parlays whenever you get the itch… just stick to your limits and be steadfast in your plan to not play at casinos anymore.

Sports gambling although still gambling and counterintuitive (you don’t give an alcoholic who’s trying to kick beer instead because he drinks vodka), but I’ve always been able to control the mania and enjoy it to some degree. A sporting event typically lasts around 3 hours which you can atleast feel like you got your entertainment value out of your wager where as slots can take your paycheque in an hour. Just don’t start at 10 dollar bets and end up throwing 100’s-1000’s Or you’ll just end up right where you are now.

Or maybe seek out new forms of entertainment like knitting or lawn bowling… . We all need something to look forward to. Idle hands are the devils playground so keep yourself busy and before long you’ll ponder how you used to do what you’re doing

 

[Valhalla]

Surely £20 spins on Bonanza should suffice???

It’s only Dunover who could play Bonanza at that stake. Everyone else will be shafted

 

[clogs]

Can a provider say play our game, sure you are only getting 60% rtp after $10,000 wagered but once you gambled 100 million it should be 96.7% so come back to us when you've done that.



I constantly see 100 spin sessions returning like 40-60% to the point if I hit a 100x. After 200 spins it's all gone back

Even if you hit a 30x. You miss 20 spins, hit a 2x and miss another 20 spins so it's not really averaging out my 60% sessions

Seriously, when they say 97% rtp and you lose thousands and thousands to a game that's payed you 70% average at what point do you say hold on a minute, I need to win a couple jackpots here to get to 97% and never play it again to even out

 

[Jono777]

Good point.

We'll all be long dead by the time we hit what providers consider to be a big enough spin sample to hit TRTP.

Clever design eh?