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I do hope something will be done. Incidentally, I reported the 'paigow bug' to SS a long time ago whereas this was the same for the Party Reel slot at TIV.
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When are RIVAL going to fix these BUGS???
- Thread starter KasinoKing
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I wish they would make it where you could skip the map junk on the bonus game on Travel Bug. Its really slow and annoying to have to wait for it to go thru all of the map junk between airline picks.
I know thats picky but it annoys me to have to watch that all the time.
I know thats picky but it annoys me to have to watch that all the time.
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WTG Matthew!AudiManinBoro
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bit of a silly 1 this but find it annoying all the same.......
the box at the bottom that scrolls through all your promotions.
when u take 1 of the promotions it does'nt dissapear from the list....
say u take $10 ndp and lose it all.......the $10 ndp is still in the list even though it obviously cant be used again!!!
being picky now sorry but as u said KK is annoying
When your money or bonus goes, that too dissapears after a few minutes. Personally im glad it stays there while im still playing because by clicking on the bonus you have already taken it informs you whether or not you have completed the wagering requirements.
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OK, now I have witnessed a bizarre bug on Reel Party too!
Started playing it last night (Superior Casino) and right from the off the reels were spinning in a very strange way. After 3 or 4 spins, the graphic of reels 4 & 5 just kept spinning permanently, but the sounds carried on as normal; i.e. I could hear the reels 'stop' and any wins were paid. A bit later reel 3 started doing the same thing!
Took this shot after getting awarded the free-spins - we all know the reels should be static at this point, but as you can see reel 4 & 5 just keep going, and going, and going...
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So the Fix List now reads like this:-
1. (Annoying) "Would you like to visit the cashier?" when you've just been there.
2. (Serious) There appears to be a fault in the bonus round of Granny's Attic (no keys).
3. (Show Stopper) Travel Bug; Freezes if you win > 100x your bet in the free-spins. (Sometimes < x100 too).
4. (Serious) PaiGow Poker; Display problem & House Way is NOT to optimal strategy!
5. (Annoying) Autoplay; The number of spins slider is too sensitive = difficult to set the number you want.
6. (Annoying) Autoplay; No "Stop autoplay on any win above ..."
7. (Annoying) Autoplay; "Spins Completed" window is far too big & encroaches on the reels:-
8. (Annoying) Autoplay; You have to keep your mouse pointer over the button to keep the "Spins Completed" window in view - why can't it just sit there permanently?
9. (Annoying) Autoplay; Recent change: You can't use autoplay in fun mode... Why the hell not???
10. (Serious) Autoplay; I want autoplay to stop when free-spins are hit and have a 'Start Free-Spins' button (which you do get in manual play) instead of just carrying on without the slightest of breaks! I rate this as serious because it seriously spoils my playing enjoyment.
11. (Annoying); Pop-ups during freeplay asking if we want to play for real (i.e. deposit). No we don't!
12. (Annoying) Scary Rich (and maybe some others?); The "You won free-spins" box pops up before the reels have even stopped spinning! A tiny time delay would iron this out.
13. (Serious?); There appears to be an error in the Cosmic Quest paytable (prizes not linear).
14. (Serious) Reel Party; Sometimes the graphic goes haywire & reels keep on spinning.
Any more anyone?
Cheers!
Kendra-SSC
Dormant account
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- Canada
Small Update
Hi Everyone,
Ive received a small update from Tech. Support. I will outline below.
(Serious) There appears to be a fault in the bonus round of Granny's Attic (no keys).
Yes, you are correct. This is an error, however the actual payout of the bonus round is not affected. This error occurred when the software was updated with the new version. Since the bonus round is pre-determined you would just receive the full payout in the first chest that you picked instead of it being spread out among different chests.
This will be fixed.
(Show Stopper) Travel Bug; Freezes if you win > 100x your bet in the free-spins. (Sometimes < x100 too).
They are aware and will fix.
(Annoying) Autoplay; Recent change: You can't use autoplay in fun mode... Why the hell not???
This was added recently because there are too many people that come in and play autoplay in free mode. It bogs down the servers. This feature becomes very helpful when a new game is released because many people will just set it on autoplay and wait for the bonus round to appear so they can check it out.
(Annoying); Pop-ups during freeplay asking if we want to play for real (i.e. deposit).No we don't!
They will make this happen less often, however, they will not get rid of it entirely.
(Serious?); There appears to be an error in the Cosmic Quest paytable (prizes not linear).
This isnt really an error its just an odd case that we havent really had before in a paytable. It is listed in increasing order of the '3' icons but the '4' and '5' icons it is decreasing.
All other serious issues are in priority and are being worked on as we speak. Most minor issues will be fixed but they will be done when time allows.
I will update with more information when I receive it.
Kendra
Hi Everyone,
Ive received a small update from Tech. Support. I will outline below.
(Serious) There appears to be a fault in the bonus round of Granny's Attic (no keys).
Yes, you are correct. This is an error, however the actual payout of the bonus round is not affected. This error occurred when the software was updated with the new version. Since the bonus round is pre-determined you would just receive the full payout in the first chest that you picked instead of it being spread out among different chests.
This will be fixed.
(Show Stopper) Travel Bug; Freezes if you win > 100x your bet in the free-spins. (Sometimes < x100 too).
They are aware and will fix.
(Annoying) Autoplay; Recent change: You can't use autoplay in fun mode... Why the hell not???
This was added recently because there are too many people that come in and play autoplay in free mode. It bogs down the servers. This feature becomes very helpful when a new game is released because many people will just set it on autoplay and wait for the bonus round to appear so they can check it out.
(Annoying); Pop-ups during freeplay asking if we want to play for real (i.e. deposit).No we don't!
They will make this happen less often, however, they will not get rid of it entirely.
(Serious?); There appears to be an error in the Cosmic Quest paytable (prizes not linear).
This isnt really an error its just an odd case that we havent really had before in a paytable. It is listed in increasing order of the '3' icons but the '4' and '5' icons it is decreasing.
All other serious issues are in priority and are being worked on as we speak. Most minor issues will be fixed but they will be done when time allows.
I will update with more information when I receive it.
Kendra
- Joined
- Sep 26, 2004
- Location
- SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
Kendra,
Thanks for the update. You mentioned that bonus round in Granny's Attic is pre-determined. Is this also true for the bonus rounds in other slots like Hobo's Hoard, Atomic Age or Party Reels? I recall that it states that there are different values attached to each pick. If they are pre-determined as you say maybe these statements should be erased.
On the autoplay feature, is it possible to provide real players(those that have deposited) with this option so that they can test new slots before actually trying them out in real mode. So you actually choose which players can use autoplay in free mode and hopefully takes some of the pressure off the servers.
Thanks for the update. You mentioned that bonus round in Granny's Attic is pre-determined. Is this also true for the bonus rounds in other slots like Hobo's Hoard, Atomic Age or Party Reels? I recall that it states that there are different values attached to each pick. If they are pre-determined as you say maybe these statements should be erased.
On the autoplay feature, is it possible to provide real players(those that have deposited) with this option so that they can test new slots before actually trying them out in real mode. So you actually choose which players can use autoplay in free mode and hopefully takes some of the pressure off the servers.
Kendra-SSC
Dormant account
- Joined
- Oct 31, 2007
- Location
- Canada
Here is a link to another thread where this was discussed. After searching around on here I actually found quite a few that had some very good explanations. https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/are-bonus-amounts-pre-determined.20719/
It is my understanding that most bonus rounds generate a total win amount as soon as you enter them. The graphics and gameplay adds to the excitement of the win, but does not have an impact on the total win amount. Everything is still completely fair and completely random. This is similar to how slot machines work (both land-based and online). An outcome is generated first, and then the reels on the slot stop one at a time, adding to the excitement of playing the game. But the truth is, outcomes are determined before the first reel of a slot even stops spinning. I say "MOST" bonus rounds work this way because skill-based bonus rounds such as that in the new Cosmic Quest game ARE affected by the user's play and that why skill-based bonus rounds are such a break-through for the gaming industry. It is possible, while playing Cosmic Quest, for example, to receive a win amount of $0 if you're really really bad at the game. It's not likely, because the game should be easy for everyone, however, it is possible. A zero win is not possible in games such as Grandma's Attic. Anyway, I am not a technical person but that is how I understand slot machines to work.
Kendra
It is my understanding that most bonus rounds generate a total win amount as soon as you enter them. The graphics and gameplay adds to the excitement of the win, but does not have an impact on the total win amount. Everything is still completely fair and completely random. This is similar to how slot machines work (both land-based and online). An outcome is generated first, and then the reels on the slot stop one at a time, adding to the excitement of playing the game. But the truth is, outcomes are determined before the first reel of a slot even stops spinning. I say "MOST" bonus rounds work this way because skill-based bonus rounds such as that in the new Cosmic Quest game ARE affected by the user's play and that why skill-based bonus rounds are such a break-through for the gaming industry. It is possible, while playing Cosmic Quest, for example, to receive a win amount of $0 if you're really really bad at the game. It's not likely, because the game should be easy for everyone, however, it is possible. A zero win is not possible in games such as Grandma's Attic. Anyway, I am not a technical person but that is how I understand slot machines to work.
Kendra
vinylweatherman
You type well loads
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- United Kingdom
What about free spins, are the results of all the free spins pre-determined as soon as the feature is triggered. This would not be a good idea as it would mean that the outcome of such a bonus round could never be naturally random, and would be treated with great suspicion by players.
Another important question is whether the slots themselves are indeed naturally random, or merely a representation of the result of an underlying game of, say, keno, played on the server to determine how much is to be displayed as the amount won.
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- Sep 26, 2004
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- SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
Update: Played at a Rival casino just now (Granny's Attic). The good news is that you are now able to get keys to open other chests. The bad news; Wait for it. They have altered the payouts. Previously 2 scatters paid but they have adjuted the payout and now only 3 scatters pay. Then I am certain that if you get 3 Blue Crowns? you get a payout of 50 coins but you only get 25 now. I cannot recall the others but in my view this is most unethical to alter the payouts and prey on unsuspecting customers. What the heck is wrong with Rival?
Kendra may wish to look into this and provide some explanations if possible.
Kendra may wish to look into this and provide some explanations if possible.
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- Texas, USA
Chuchu,
If this is correct, this is the 3rd time that I know of they have changed the payouts. I don't think this is right at all. When a game comes out, payouts should remain the same. Period. Most people won't notice it but if you play alot you know what each game pays.
I use to be Rivals biggest supporter but not now. I still play at Slotocash because I like the games and they are the only ones that still pay fast but I have cut way down, way down.
I, like all the rest of you, don't like losing. But what I don't like worse than that is when I get played for a dummy and that's what it feels like when they keep lowering the payouts and really think no one will notice or care.
Do RTG or MG casinos change payouts on games? Just a curiousity question.
If this is correct, this is the 3rd time that I know of they have changed the payouts. I don't think this is right at all. When a game comes out, payouts should remain the same. Period. Most people won't notice it but if you play alot you know what each game pays.
I use to be Rivals biggest supporter but not now. I still play at Slotocash because I like the games and they are the only ones that still pay fast but I have cut way down, way down.
I, like all the rest of you, don't like losing. But what I don't like worse than that is when I get played for a dummy and that's what it feels like when they keep lowering the payouts and really think no one will notice or care.
Do RTG or MG casinos change payouts on games? Just a curiousity question.
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Same here Annie. I also play at Sloto now. Fast payouts and a free tenner nearly always follows a deposit. Cashed out on the bonus more often than not. Several hours ago, cashed out $70 from a free $10.
I dont blame Sloto for the payouts because Rival is the culprit. The 2 scatters were too noticeable as you dont get the sounds associated with them when they pay so I checked the payout structure. I really do think it is unethical to change payouts of old games without any warnings or notices.
I dont blame Sloto for the payouts because Rival is the culprit. The 2 scatters were too noticeable as you dont get the sounds associated with them when they pay so I checked the payout structure. I really do think it is unethical to change payouts of old games without any warnings or notices.
Hi i was playing ocean treasure the other day was about $700 down mix off bonus, winnings, and a couple off cash deposits.
Then i hit up my last cash deposit and noticed that there was more than 15 lines on this slot
so i chose 20 lines pressed play and the game locked up due to it being a 15 line slot, well well no bonus round for me kinda sucked.
I thought i was playing at a classy joint but took a look around me and new with my circumstances this could be true.
That was at superior and no freebee next day either.
Then i hit up my last cash deposit and noticed that there was more than 15 lines on this slot
so i chose 20 lines pressed play and the game locked up due to it being a 15 line slot, well well no bonus round for me kinda sucked.I thought i was playing at a classy joint but took a look around me and new with my circumstances this could be true.
That was at superior and no freebee next day either.
This week rivals are tighten their slots. Or is just my unlucky serie. Anyway, deposited over 400$ at 6 rivals, and it never ended so quick. It was the worst expirience ever. And i like rivals alot, but after this....anyone else notice this in past week?
Kendra-SSC
Dormant account
- Joined
- Oct 31, 2007
- Location
- Canada
Hi everyone,
Yes, the Grandma's Attic Bonus round has been fixed. As I mentioned earlier, the actual payout of the bonus round was never affected but the win amounts are now seperated among different chests.
Regarding the changed paytable. I sent an email to the technical department after reading the post. They've advised me that from time to time they like to re-evalulate the playability of the slot machines and that sometimes they feel they should modify the payout structure in order to create a better experience for the players. However, they have only done this for some of the older slots because those were the ones that were lacking in game play. None of the changes that were made to any of the slot machines reduce the overall return of the slot machine, it is strictly for playability. They do not do this very often. I've asked them to please send an email out to the support team if they do any more changes like this so that players can be notified.
I apologize that the players were not notified. If there is a next time there will be better communication to the players.
Kendra
Yes, the Grandma's Attic Bonus round has been fixed. As I mentioned earlier, the actual payout of the bonus round was never affected but the win amounts are now seperated among different chests.
Regarding the changed paytable. I sent an email to the technical department after reading the post. They've advised me that from time to time they like to re-evalulate the playability of the slot machines and that sometimes they feel they should modify the payout structure in order to create a better experience for the players. However, they have only done this for some of the older slots because those were the ones that were lacking in game play. None of the changes that were made to any of the slot machines reduce the overall return of the slot machine, it is strictly for playability. They do not do this very often. I've asked them to please send an email out to the support team if they do any more changes like this so that players can be notified.
I apologize that the players were not notified. If there is a next time there will be better communication to the players.
Kendra
BingoT
Nurses love to give shots
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- Palm Bay Florida
I like to know when they going to fix them Gold Rush & The Cow slots
Do they ever hit
Even in free mode they never pop.
Do they ever hit
Even in free mode they never pop.
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- Location
- Bexhill on sea, England
Rival; please, please, PLEASE when are you going to get your fricking act together???
It's so frustrating! :sob:
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allsin
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- Netherlands
Actually..I won 1642usd on a 10usd free chip this week...paradise8..:notworthy
But I agree sometimes it can take FOREVER to hit something..
deposited a lot at all rivals cashing out NOTHING for weeks..
That why it is called GAMBLING..
Too bad, that you can only payout $100 from it
Btw. they pay very fast, if you make a flush on their live chat
allsin
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- Netherlands
Too bad, that you can only payout $100 from it
Btw. they pay very fast, if you make a flush on their live chat
why only 100?
it is a loyalty bonus, with no maximum cash out restrictions..
why only 100?
it is a loyalty bonus, with no maximum cash out restrictions..
Oh, then it's certainly great
I thought it was the free signup bonus, because i've made also with this $100 and after that again $150 with a $30 deposit, so i had there also only luck
Rusty
Banned User - repetitive flaming
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- Location
- Manchester UK
Are free spin wins predetermined?
Of course they are.
Are bonus round wins predetermined?
It's a fact.
Are winning/losing spins predetermined?
I would stake my life on it.
All software, all casinos....enjoy
Of course they are.
Are bonus round wins predetermined?
It's a fact.
Are winning/losing spins predetermined?
I would stake my life on it.
All software, all casinos....enjoy
- Joined
- Aug 25, 2004
- Location
- Bexhill on sea, England
I just noticed Kendra-SSC is online at the moment - so I'm bumping this thread to remind her that none of these bugs have been fixed yet (to my knowledge) 
Also I have some more to report - coming soon!
KK
(Hoping Rival get their act together sometime this century....)
Also I have some more to report - coming soon!
KK
(Hoping Rival get their act together sometime this century....)
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- Left Hungary
The only way Rival or any casino will "get their act together" will be when players stop depositing en masse (as a whole) and let them feel the pain in THEIR pocketbooks for a change on no new money coming into their hands..
What an idea...it just hit me as I was typing..!!!
Choose a casino (group) and show how powerful players can be and how important we are to their bottom line and if they listen...they will keep us depositing...if not...ban them from our list of casino to be played at for real for a certain period of time as a "whole" (the players) until they do feel the "pinch" and start listening...they will know real quick who the real important people are and it is NOT the casino...for they do not make money unless we as players choose to deposit...
Week 1...casino xxx
Week 2...casino yyy
etc etc...
Interesting concept isn't it
Ok, please do not ban me for my thoughts! It is just interesting to think of the power we do have that is NOT being utilized....
Kendra-SSC
Dormant account
- Joined
- Oct 31, 2007
- Location
- Canada
Hi there,
Ill email for an update and report any new findings here.
Kind Regards,
Kendra
Ill email for an update and report any new findings here.
Kind Regards,
Kendra
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