Whine and Moan Just lost 11k of winnings at 32red due to "pending withdrawals"

[randomiam]

sux ive done it a few times i hate pending cashouts the word pending makes me cringe
if im playing cash and not up or a bonus i only play where i get paid same day really
i love 32red and all but these days i only play there if the bonus is good
my last deposit was like 50 with 50 bonus it bombed so quickly

There should be a "hold it for me"option instead of pending where they can take the 2 days to pay but it cant be reversed.

 

[spintee]

Some person send me the rope, That 295 I had pending I reverse 45 of it, So pissed of but not that I lost but error after error, Lucky its weekend and as I withdrawn last night it probably will not make any difference time wise,

Any way I had to reverse the lot so when I withdrawn again I done 200 and 50 just in case (Ichy fingrs) Well I left that site and went on to the same network & tried free play and all working sweet, So deposit a £10 for £10 bonus and guess what? Yes errors again, Im trying to play pulling my hair out, Got up to about 50 and I said bugger this, Just try and spend it on what ever, Got to 25 and called it a day, added a few more grey hairs to my barnet, Looked at wager and still halfway to go, So flicked threw the internet and when back to test, Still errors and after getting kicked out a few times had £12 left so I said that's it, Just finish the last bit and time to whach farther ted,

So went on to Fierwork frenzy and fire works went of alright 25p bet win:: £299.91 just shy of 1200 xbet, If I got a wild in middle it would of been about £850

 

[goatwack]

Some person send me the rope, That 295 I had pending I reverse 45 of it, So pissed of but not that I lost but error after error, Lucky its weekend and as I withdrawn last night it probably will not make any difference time wise,

Any way I had to reverse the lot so when I withdrawn again I done 200 and 50 just in case (Ichy fingrs) Well I left that site and went on to the same network & tried free play and all working sweet, So deposit a £10 for £10 bonus and guess what? Yes errors again, Im trying to play pulling my hair out, Got up to about 50 and I said bugger this, Just try and spend it on what ever, Got to 25 and called it a day, added a few more grey hairs to my barnet, Looked at wager and still halfway to go, So flicked threw the internet and when back to test, Still errors and after getting kicked out a few times had £12 left so I said that's it, Just finish the last bit and time to whach farther ted,

So went on to Fierwork frenzy and fire works went of alright 25p bet win:: £299.91 just shy of 1200 xbet, If I got a wild in middle it would of been about £850

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So remember kids : only reverse withdrawals if you're going to win

 

[psychogene]

Last time I reverse withdrew at 32red was off a $20 deposit of which I turned into $280 playing gung pow. Reverse withdrew that $280 bit by bit over that weekend and pretty much lost it all and then when i was down to $100 I thought screw it reverse withdrew it all proceeded to play Jurassic Park of which I never have won anything and after 1500+ spins of my balance practically hovering around $100 upped the bet from 0.60p to 1.20p and eventually landed a nice bonus win of $600+ when left with $40 of playing chips. Withdrew that and did not touch 32red again until the money was in my bank.

So it can work though rarely and I ain't doing that again lol. In fact I've self-excluded myself from 32red for a few months because after that I won another $250 playing fat lady sings and was finally after a few months in the winnings with 32red though by a really small margin. However I kept making small deposits here and there and multiple deposits back to back on the same day and have not won a thing at 32red since that. Must have made about 20 small deposits after winning $250 off fat lady sings with no result so for now I am taking a break from 32red because whether its luck or not I don't know but I have much more luck playing MG slots elsewhere than 32red and even though I low roll I got tired of all those multiple deposits going nowhere. I have much better luck spreading my play across multiple platforms and online casinos.

I'll be back though after the self-exclusion period to see if it all fares better again hehe.

 

[mina888]

Thank you

Thank you for all the kind words. This is a big lesson learned for me.
My head is still spinning from the loss. I have lost more than this in a span of months but losing your winnings just feels ten times worst. At one point I thought center court was malfunctioning as every other spin was a bonus round with multiple big wins. Also on bdba I just couldn't lose. LESSONS LEARNED!

As for the 24 hour pending period, this is definitely not the case. I had 3-4k stuck in pending withdrawal for a period of a few days. So I call support to ask what is going on? This is when he told me 3k will be processed sometimes today and another $1800 will be tomorrow. I made sure not to go under 3k that day just so that it gets processed and I didnt. Next day I look in my account and the 3k is STILL pending.....

 

[spintee]

As I said, If what you said is true about the pending time I believe you & I personally think it is bang out of order, Any person reading this can clearly see that they had done this for a reason and nothing else, I do not like making bad comments about sites but I think a good % of us no that its wrong to have a pending time as it is & to be told its coming that day after the promised time and it does not than something should be done,

There should be more rules and regs with these pending times, Put an button next to it so it cannot be reversed, They soon put a bloody reverse button there so why not a lock button ?

Thank you for all the kind words. This is a big lesson learned for me.
My head is still spinning from the loss. I have lost more than this in a span of months but losing your winnings just feels ten times worst. At one point I thought center court was malfunctioning as every other spin was a bonus round with multiple big wins. Also on bdba I just couldn't lose. LESSONS LEARNED!

As for the 24 hour pending period, this is definitely not the case. I had 3-4k stuck in pending withdrawal for a period of a few days. So I call support to ask what is going on? This is when he told me 3k will be processed sometimes today and another $1800 will be tomorrow. I made sure not to go under 3k that day just so that it gets processed and I didnt. Next day I look in my account and the 3k is STILL pending.....

 

[mina888]

Thank you Azzurri

Reading your post was one that really helped ease the pain. I read it 5 times so far. Thank you!!!!

Wow.

Some of you speak like you honestly have no heart at all.

funnymunny, you seem to like quotes, so I wonder if you are familiar with the one about not saying anything at all if you have nothing nice to say?

You may be right in your fiercely direct analysis of the situation, but this poor person came on here to vent, and clearly stated their own fault and poor judgement in the matter that led to this terrible loss.

What are you trying to achieve by outlining what they already know, whilst also unnecessarily adding your own cold jabs by making references to being stupid? Your own self gratification? You want to show that you are a stronger person who has more self control and willpower, to not suffer such a fate? Bravo to you sir.

I see no reason for your holier than thou comments, other than to make this person feel even worse that they clearly already do.

I think you seriously need to reconsider the appropriateness of your comments in this regard. I actually feel a little embarrassed and apologetic on your behalf.

This op caved into a process that is clearly implemented and utilized for one reason alone, and that is to prey on a very common weakness amongst all gamblers. That is a lack of willpower.

Many of us have been down this road before to varying degrees, and felt the op's pain, so I don't see why anyone would want to single them out as some weak freak of nature because they caved to a process that is designed for that exact purpose. No gambler plays expecting to cave to the temptation of not stopping at the appropriate time, but it is proven time and again to be a common issue for many, if not yourself.

Many other top casinos are proof that fast withdrawals can be the norm, and pending periods are nothing more then an advantage play against the customer to entice them to reverse their winnings. Any gambler already has that slight impulse that tells them 'what if', otherwise they wouldn't deposit and play in the first place.

Casinos that then wave the temptation back in the customer's faces intentionally after a win, know exactly what they're doing, and to then restart the pending period after each reverse is just that much worse IMO.

We all slip up at times and make mistakes. The OP can at least admit to their mistake, and has every right to then vent, and also vent about their dislike of the pending system, even if they were aware of it's existence.

At the end of the day, if limits can be put on deposits to protect the customer, why can't limits be put on the amounts players can reverse? Simply because it is a system purely designed to prey on a gamblers biggest potential downfall, knowing when to quit.

No gambler is totally exempt from this potential downfall, and I don't care how high and mighty anyone wants to pretend to be, we have all suffered from it at some stage.

The worse thing you could then possibly come across, is a sympathetic ear that tells you you're stupid and should have known better.

OP, sorry to hear this happened to you, and I feel your pain. You're not alone in this type of thing happening, but all you can do is move on and try to learn from it. I suffered a similar fate a long time ago, and simply voted with my wallet, and moved on to sites such as Guts and Betat who don't implement these evil pending periods.

I have an account at 32red, and although I rarely play there, I have nothing against them personally, however this is a perfect example of the cold hard truth behind the unnecessary implementation of a system designed to break a players will. I don't by into the whole, it's a necessary process to ensure the casino's financial survival either.

This is a billion dollar business for the casinos, so they're surviving just fine without the need for pending periods. Any pending periods are simply designed with one goal in mind, and that is to get a second chance at making sure the customer leaves with nothing.

 

[Azzurri]

Glad it can help in some way.

 

[mina888]

If I had read this somewhere before the win, I would've been mentally prepared better. What you described is exactly how I was thinking. Waking up happy knowing I'm thousands richer so what would be so bad about losing a few hundred? Spot on!

This is the whole reason WHY casinos have pending periods. Not for cost, not for customer 'convenience' (as they all know without fear of contradiction customers prefer quick withdrawals as their prime convenience) but to play the percentage game...

In other words, they know damn well over a year they will save a small fortune by isolating the weak from the strong-willed. They know damn well that when a player hits big, they'll be on a high, leave their PC happy thinking they are on a winning streak. They know after cooling down for a few hours, the player will hit a psychological comfort zone and think along the lines of "I have got £5,000 on the way to me, I'm £4900 better-off than this morning, so if I play another £400 I can't lose, I'll still be £4,500 better-off than I was when I woke up."

Repeat this above thought process until the whole lot is spunked back. The casinos are fully aware of gamblers' psychology.

Simple answer to the OP and others like them, do your homework and find out the casinos like Guts/bet-at, Sky, Grosvenor etc. and STICK TO THEM.

KK - I think you are being unfair in suggesting the OP would have spunked it all back by re-depositing if paid fast. When they saw the glow of that in their bank account, how do you know they wouldn't have gone up the local garage and bought a new motor? Being weak-willed when the money is in the casino account is a very different matter from being weak-willed when seeing it on the display of your bank's ATM......

 

[Harry_BKK]

Thank you for all the kind words. This is a big lesson learned for me.
My head is still spinning from the loss. I have lost more than this in a span of months but losing your winnings just feels ten times worst. At one point I thought center court was malfunctioning as every other spin was a bonus round with multiple big wins. Also on bdba I just couldn't lose. LESSONS LEARNED!

As for the 24 hour pending period, this is definitely not the case. I had 3-4k stuck in pending withdrawal for a period of a few days. So I call support to ask what is going on? This is when he told me 3k will be processed sometimes today and another $1800 will be tomorrow. I made sure not to go under 3k that day just so that it gets processed and I didnt. Next day I look in my account and the 3k is STILL pending.....

If that is the case and a partial reversal re-starts the 24hr pending period then this is predatory behavior of the casino, which usually only happens at rogue outfits and should be reported to the LGA or UKGC.

I had similar things happening. One day i had 3 withdrawals pending totaling over 4K, lots of reversals and re-withdrawing in between and suddenly i received 100$ with the afternoon payment run into my Neteller account... why did they transfer only 100$ (that was actually my initial deposit on the day i made the first withdrawal)? Couldn't get an explanation.

Once i made the withdrawal just minutes after the deadline for it to be processed the next day. Sent an email to payments if they could still process it. Got a big NO, like what was i thinking, 24hr is the minimum. Yet their T&C's state usually about 24 hrs For me 23hrs 48mins is about 24hrs or am I wrong?

Yet 32RED is again nominated for the Casino Of The Year Award!!!!! How can that be? They cut some many player friendly features in the past 12 months that they certainly don't deserve it at all. And this slice-by-slice tactics they apply is just to cover it all up.

 

[mina888]

Coincidence????

That is really strange that you said this. Because I received $100 in my bank account when I had 3-4k of withdrawals pending at all times. Jonathan sent me a PM yesterday and I asked him to check into my withdrawal activities in order to explain the reason for 6 days pending withdrawals where it shouldve been 24 hours. The span started from Saturday to Friday where 2k was finally removed from pending state.

If that is the case and a partial reversal re-starts the 24hr pending period then this is predatory behavior of the casino, which usually only happens at rogue outfits and should be reported to the LGA or UKGC.

I had similar things happening. One day i had 3 withdrawals pending totaling over 4K, lots of reversals and re-withdrawing in between and suddenly i received 100$ with the afternoon payment run into my Neteller account... why did they transfer only 100$ (that was actually my initial deposit on the day i made the first withdrawal)? Couldn't get an explanation.

Once i made the withdrawal just minutes after the deadline for it to be processed the next day. Sent an email to payments if they could still process it. Got a big NO, like what was i thinking, 24hr is the minimum. Yet their T&C's state usually about 24 hrs For me 23hrs 48mins is about 24hrs or am I wrong?

Yet 32RED is again nominated for the Casino Of The Year Award!!!!! How can that be? They cut some many player friendly features in the past 12 months that they certainly don't deserve it at all. And this slice-by-slice tactics they apply is just to cover it all up.

 

[Harry_BKK]

It would be nice to create an application that could cover any casino, web based or download based. Making an app search for a reverse button and then modifying the output would be pretty simple. Could even make it casino specific. It would just nullify the button to make it inactive. (You would still see it but not be able to click it).

- T

I would download and install such an app immediately. Of course i don't reverse and lose every single withdrawal but i play daily and when i am out of funds to deposit then the only option is reversal. Only once i did not regret doing so. About 1 year ago at Fortune Lounge i reversed 500 Euro from a 2K withdrawal and hit a real big win on LOADED with free spins @ 25 Euro bet and got just over 20K Euro.

So what to do? I for myself closed my DASH, GL and NED accounts, started cutting down my deposits at 32RED (down from 5-7k/month to less than 1K). So i voted with my wallet. It is just sad that 32RED has gone down so badly from putting player satisfaction first (or at least we felt they would) in a matter of less than 12 months.

 

[mina888]

To Dunnover

Simple answer to the OP and others like them, do your homework and find out the casinos like Guts/bet-at, Sky, Grosvenor etc. and STICK TO THEM


I tried Guts, they charge a fee for every cc transaction.
I tried Betat, love them but I can't use my personal cc here it always says gateway rejected payment so as Im a canadian player the only option is vanilla mastercards which you have to pay a fee of $7 plus tax per $200 card.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Simple answer to the OP and others like them, do your homework and find out the casinos like Guts/bet-at, Sky, Grosvenor etc. and STICK TO THEM


I tried Guts, they charge a fee for every cc transaction.
I tried Betat, love them but I can't use my personal cc here it always says gateway rejected payment so as Im a canadian player the only option is vanilla mastercards which you have to pay a fee of $7 plus tax per $200 card.

Try Luck247, it is a download MG casino, i got paid within 3-16 hours for the 3 withdrawals i made there. I always emailed their VIP host Shihaam and he would flush the withdrawals immediately. The only drawbacks are no weekend payouts and during the week it is only during business hours like 08.00-17.00GMT and their Live Chat, you can wait sometimes 5-10 minutes to get connected or an answer. But i am sure they will improve on that one. They have a 50% promotion pretty much every day and it is always like up to 200/300 bonus chips for the first 5 deposits which are credited automatically and instantly with every deposit.

Also Videoslots, Betsafe which are browser based multiplatform casinos like Guts.

To be honest i wouldn't mind a small charge for deposits/withdrawals when withdrawals are paid in less than 2 hours and that 24/7/365 like Guts does.

 

[Harry_BKK]

That is really strange that you said this. Because I received $100 in my bank account when I had 3-4k of withdrawals pending at all times. Jonathan sent me a PM yesterday and I asked him to check into my withdrawal activities in order to explain the reason for 6 days pending withdrawals where it shouldve been 24 hours. The span started from Saturday to Friday where 2k was finally removed from pending state.

So you got the 100$ too, my first thought is they are taking the p... that is just ridiculous. Anxious to hear what Jonathan will say.

 

[Casinomeister]

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited. So why are you blaming the casino for your loss?

Here's what I do: if I win big, I make a withdrawal of most of it, and leave a small percentage of it to play back - just for shits and giggles. When that is gone, I exit the casino and find something else to do. There is no one to blame here but yourself - don't play the victim card here.

...Yet 32RED is again nominated for the Casino Of The Year Award!!!!! How can that be? They cut some many player friendly features in the past 12 months that they certainly don't deserve it at all. And this slice-by-slice tactics they apply is just to cover it all up.

Bullshit. They made the shortlist from input by the forum members (other than you), newsletter responses, and by the regular emails I get from people. There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing - you're one of them and I have made it clear to you personally that agenda laden posts will not be tolerated. Keep it up and see what happens.

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

 

[Azzurri]

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited. So why are you blaming the casino for your loss?

Here's what I do: if I win big, I make a withdrawal of most of it, and leave a small percentage of it to play back - just for shits and giggles. When that is gone, I exit the casino and find something else to do. There is no one to blame here but yourself - don't play the victim card here.



Bullshit. They made the shortlist from input by the forum members (other than you), newsletter responses, and by the regular emails I get from people. There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing - you're one of them and I have made it clear to you personally that agenda laden posts will not be tolerated. Keep it up and see what happens.

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

Knew that was coming.

 

[Casinomeister]

Changed thread title from "due to pending withdrawal" to "lack of self discipline" and moved to the complaints section.

@OP - please reread the forum rules about posting complaints. Thank you.

 

[Azzurri]

Changed thread title and moved to the complaints section.

@OP - please reread the forum rules about posting complaints. Thank you.

Just for the record Bryan, the OP did state it was due to her(?) ill discipline, and I think the point of the thread was to vent, rather than complain about, or soil, 32red's name. As for other members, I don't know their history, so can't comment.

The only legitimate complaint I got from it, was that the pending period restarts after each reversal, which I agree sux.

Personally, as I stated, I have a general dislike of pending periods full stop regardless of the casino that implements them.

On a side note, I know you hate anyone who complains about 32red, but I don't think anyone of sound mind who reads this thread will walk away not wanting to play at 32red. If anything, it may serve as a reminder to be a little more vigilante and disciplined when playing at a site with a pending period, as this is the horrific outcome that could occur.

I think there was a lesson in this tale for the OP, and for everyone else who reads it. I don't think any harm has been done to anyone other than the OP.

 

[Casinomeister]

...On a side note, I know you hate anyone who complains about 32red, but I don't think anyone of sound mind who reads this thread will walk away not wanting to play at 32red. If anything, it may serve as a reminder to be a little more vigilante and disciplined when playing at a site with a pending period, as this is the horrific outcome that could occur.

I think there was a lesson in this tale for the OP, and for everyone else who reads it. I don't think any harm has been done to anyone other than the OP.

I don't hate people who complain about 32Red. What I dislike is for people to blame others for their problem(s) - no matter what it is. If you want to complain that you played your winnings back, that's fine and dandy. As soon as you shift the blame to something other than yourself, that's where I take issue.

There are no sacred cows here.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

re-starting the 24 hr period after a partial reversal - what is that?
withdrawals pending from Saturday to Friday - what is that?
paying 100$ out of 3-4K withdrawals - what is that?

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

There was one single post relating to these new regulations from Mark where he said that flushing withdrawals and asking for DOTD chips on multiple deposits cloggs up Live Support, which i cannot see as an explanation as the MG software provides automatic systems for that.

There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing

i don't think it is just a handful since we had quite a few threads about this in the past 6 weeks and many players expressed their dislike in one or the other way. I might do it too directly and too harsh but in essence it says the same.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

i stated now a few times that i DO like 32RED and it just makes me sad to see the decline in player support over such a relatively short period.

 

[Balthazar]

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited.

Over a long period of time, yes, probably. I highly doubt that he'd have redeposited the whole thing within a few days, though. That was enough money to pay off some serious debts, make a nice trip or a even make a good cash down on a new car.

Reverse withdrawals are pure evilness and I never understood why you think it's ethical and shouldn't be questioned.

The money that the casinos save in "banking fees" is an absolute joke compared to the amount of money that they save by not paying reversed (and lost) withdrawals.

Let's put it this way: If you combine ALL the banking fees of ALL my deposits and cashouts over the last 10 years, it won't even be 1% of what I've lost with reverse withdrawals. And I've stopped reversing withdrawals a LONG time ago.

So is it the player's fault? Yes. Is it ethical or justifiable? Hell no.


Like Dunover said: STICK WITH CASINOS THAT DON'T OFFER THE OPTION TO REVERSE YOUR CASHOUT.

 

[mina888]

I never blamed 32red for my reversals. I clicked on "reverse" over and over again. 32red didn't. I am to blame 100%. My mistake, my fault, my bad. Im not blaming 32red or casinomeister or my cat. I REVERSED. Call me out on all of the above and i have no issue with it because i fully agree with you. But please dont tell me if that money was in my bank account that I would've deposited it. That is not how I play. I would NEVER deposit $200 after another over and over again. I fell in to the trap of the system. The system is there for weak players such as myself to use and I was fooled by it. I learned an expensive lesson here and like Azzuri said, why not let others learn from my mistake?

The only issue with this thread about 32red is why were the withdrawals in pending for so long. When I called to find out why its taking them a few days and why are the winnings still in pending state after 4 days I was told everytime I reverse and withdraw again it resets the clock. It made no sense to me because I had never busted out on my winnings and always had a few thousands in pending withdrawals. So I asked Jonathan. Johnathan confirmed that if i withdraw $100, then reverse $20, and later withdraw another $40, the clock is still ticking from the original $100 but the new $40 will start a new clock. This confirms the flaw in the system. Because when i was told that 3k will be processed 4 days ago, i was up at 5-6k in withdrawals at the time and made sure not to go less than 3k. The next day, 4.8k of withdrawals were still sitting in pending. Another 36 hours and still sitting in pending.

Now, on a side note. I am not a regular poster, i read a lot of posts and have been for a while but im not sure who's who in terms of moderators of this forum etc... So please explain this to me like Im a 5 year old. It seems to me that everytime I post something nice and positive aboit 32red no one has an issue with it except a handfull of members here. But as soon as I vent about 32red, either you or Kasinoking call me on it. If this forum is biased I want to know about it because I don't want to be a member of it. Again, i didnt start this thread to blame anyone but myself. I was feeling hurt and needed to vent.
What is the problem with 8 pages of other members helping me cope with MY mistake??? Is this against the forum rules?

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited. So why are you blaming the casino for your loss?

Here's what I do: if I win big, I make a withdrawal of most of it, and leave a small percentage of it to play back - just for shits and giggles. When that is gone, I exit the casino and find something else to do. There is no one to blame here but yourself - don't play the victim card here.



Bullshit. They made the shortlist from input by the forum members (other than you), newsletter responses, and by the regular emails I get from people. There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing - you're one of them and I have made it clear to you personally that agenda laden posts will not be tolerated. Keep it up and see what happens.

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

 

[cncas123]

I never blamed 32red for my reversals. I clicked on "reverse" over and over again. 32red didn't. I am to blame 100%. My mistake, my fault, my bad. Im not blaming 32red or casinomeister or my cat. I REVERSED. Call me out on all of the above and i have no issue with it because i fully agree with you. But please dont tell me if that money was in my bank account that I would've deposited it. That is not how I play. I would NEVER deposit $200 after another over and over again. I fell in to the trap of the system. The system is there for weak players such as myself to use and I was fooled by it. I learned an expensive lesson here and like Azzuri said, why not let others learn from my mistake?

The only issue with this thread about 32red is why were the withdrawals in pending for so long. When I called to find out why its taking them a few days and why are the winnings still in pending state after 4 days I was told everytime I reverse and withdraw again it resets the clock. It made no sense to me because I had never busted out on my winnings and always had a few thousands in pending withdrawals. So I asked Jonathan. Johnathan confirmed that if i withdraw $100, then reverse $20, and later withdraw another $40, the clock is still ticking from the original $100 but the new $40 will start a new clock. This confirms the flaw in the system. Because when i was told that 3k will be processed 4 days ago, i was up at 5-6k in withdrawals at the time and made sure not to go less than 3k. The next day, 4.8k of withdrawals were still sitting in pending. Another 36 hours and still sitting in pending.

Now, on a side note. I am not a regular poster, i read a lot of posts and have been for a while but im not sure who's who in terms of moderators of this forum etc... So please explain this to me like Im a 5 year old. It seems to me that everytime I post something nice and positive aboit 32red no one has an issue with it except a handfull of members here. But as soon as I vent about 32red, either you or Kasinoking call me on it. If this forum is biased I want to know about it because I don't want to be a member of it. Again, i didnt start this thread to blame anyone but myself. I was feeling hurt and needed to vent.
What is the problem with 8 pages of other members helping me cope with MY mistake??? Is this against the forum rules?

I for one think that this has been a useful thread, and its pointing out a obvious flaw in the responsible gambling much vaunted by online casinos. I also dont think that its a tirade against 32Red as there are worse sites out there for holding withdrawals in pending status, I think that the OP has held their hands up and admitted their mistake, has not tried to pass the blame to anyone else, but they are just pointing out how easy it is to do, and how tempting it can be for some players when they have had a good run, and the winnings are sitting there each tme they log in.

 

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I think it would be fairly easy to create an application which could block any reverse withdrawal buttons on the casinos. You could leave it running on your taskbar and the only way to get rid of it would be to wait X amount of days. Similar to a NetNanny style program JUST for removing this reverse button option. Then as others have said, it is no longer an issue.

I may look into making such an application, I don't think it would be too difficult or time consuming to create if there was a genuine interest for it...

- T

Or maybe simpler would be a tool like the Casinomeister search bar (which to those of you that are familiar with it gives the rogue/accredited or safety status of any casinos you have in your browser) which is set up only with details of instant-12 hours' cashing-out casinos with weekend payments.

If the pending withdrawal is for may thousands it'd be more effective to unscrew your hard drive from your laptop, smash the laptop up and buy the same model when you've been paid. And take the SIM from your phone and do the same if necessary.

Sounds facetious? Well, I can think of at least one person here that will still be wishing they'd done just that and would have been 13k minus a few hundred quid better-off.

The rage the OP must be feeling, not just at their own weakness but at the casino in question, which they will perceive (rightly or wrongly) as 'laughing up their sleeve' at them.

P.S. Actually, a better idea (if in working hours) unscrew the hard drive, go to the Post Office and send it back to yourself second-class post. Removes the act of wrecking a good laptop, should've thought of that first..