Immortal Romance lately - taking the piss?

[Vegasbum]

Microgaming just keeps pounding out these max line reel slots. They are cash machines for the casinos. Give me the games where I can choose my lines and that is where you will find me, grinding out the small wins.

I have played the max line slots in FUN money only and just don't understand why people like these. They eat my bankroll super fast. Yes I know there is a chance for a big win....but at what cost?

Even land casinos are producing the max line slots and getting away from the pick your line slots. All the new games are the same, lots of bells and whistles, the odd big win....but eat your bankroll and reduce your playtime.

It comes down to greed as casinos want all your money...now

 

[Valhalla]

Obviously just a coincidence, but it always seems to happen right after a major release, last time it was TSII after Avalon II was released, and it still doesn't seem to have recovered. This time it's IR after Jurasic park's release

Sadly my poor run has been going on for a few weeks before JP was released

 

[KasinoKing]

I'm not the type to complain either, normally. I take losses on the chin; all part of gambling in the end.
But I.R this past month has pushed me to it, it's been so God-awful that I'm almost questioning my own sanity

So are we!
Might seem like a daft question, but if IR is so goddamnawful like you say, WHY do you keep playing it every day?

Suggestion: have a week away for IR and play some of MG's older slots instead, avoiding ALL the 243-ways ones. You never know, you might find a new favourite slot which doesn't kick you in the nuts every time you play it!

KK

 

[Valhalla]

So are we!
Might seem like a daft question, but if IR is so goddamnawful like you say, WHY do you keep playing it every day?

Suggestion: have a week away for IR and play some of MG's older slots instead, avoiding ALL the 243-ways ones. You never know, you might find a new favourite slot which doesn't kick you in the nuts every time you play it!

KK

That's a VERY good point. I'll try to answer it, ummm...

Well, if I am to assume that the game is random and fair, then it surely doesn't matter how often I play it. If I was to genuinely believe that the game "knows" that it's me playing, and has a whole RTP set aside just for me, then that would be implying (well, stating as fact with that remark) that the game cheats and is not remotely fair or random.
Each individual spin is independent of the previous and next, right?
So with that logic, I should at least some times be getting a "decent game" if not a very good one. In tens of thousands of spins I can find no logic to justify my astonishing run of awful form. Each of those many thousands of spins are all randomly generated. The odds of me getting so many in a row that are worth nothing must surely be in the billions when you consider the number of players, the number of spins played, the number of possible big wins and so on. Surely I would hit at least ONE in all that time.

I haven't hit anything good since early July. I know this because I had a big win on my birthday and that's when the tide turned.
The base game itself can be "ok" as I said earlier. I'll very rarely hit 5 Sarah with a wild and similar wins. But never enough in a short enough space of time that my balance goes up in any significant way. Just a very brief stay of execution.
It's free spins themselves that are killing me (emotionally and financially). If I'm betting £1.20 a spin, the standard win is another £1.20 for a total of £3.60 (adding the original trigger). I have not once it over a month of play had 100x bet from free spins (I rarely even get 10x). Might not sound that bad but we're talking hundreds of free spin triggers here.

I used to get (I'll be simplistic, and make up/estimate figures based on personal experience): 50% worthless free spins (0 to 5x bet). 25% crap to decent (5 to 20 x bet). 15% good (25 to 50x bet). 5% great (up to 100x bet). 5% awesome (well over 100x bet).

Now it really is: 95% worthless (0 to 2x bet). 4% crap (5x bet or so). 1% decent (10 to 20x bet)

Obviously the actual % wouldn't be exactly like that, but that's my personal experience. I refuse to accept I've just been marked by this game to get crap forever more. It is supposed to be RANDOM after all.

 

[Tim Wood]

Yep, you are not alone, game is just for fun, back to game and get fun

 

[Simmo!]

This is the trade off for a game with 1000x hit potential IMO. I have had lots of losing sessions over several months then 2 weeks ago hit 2500x on Wild Desire. That's why we play it

Thunderstruck 2 is a lower variance version. You'll still lose, a bit less annd a bit slower but you will probably never get a 1000x hit. Horses for courses

 

[Valhalla]

Simmo! - I hear ya. And I understand and, to a large part, agree with you. I've just never suffered the kind of streak I'm seeing recently, it's very harsh and painful to have to be on the receiving end of. Maybe I've just been very lucky up to now when I read other people's comments about it.

Maybe I'll hit a 5-reel WD soon and all will be well with the world

 

[kazzi]

Sessions on this always been with a huge difference done session after session with 5-800spins 1 or 0 features, then another day you get features like crazy.

But the WD 3+ im still waiting on after all these years since release dont wanna count the spins/wd ive done its insane but im sure im far from alone hell still waiting on 5scatters/wilds in normal play had 4wilds once but was 2-5 with a scatter on reel 1 worst ever.

 

[chris87]

I'm also of the opinion that IR has been very poor of late. It's gobbled up £500+ of mine over the last few days alone. To be fair, the payout from the bonus features the rare time they've triggered have been average, not awful, but not exceptional either. What I find plays with my head emotionally are the runs of dead spin after dead spin. Can be 10 to 20 in a row.

As an aside I've been playing IR for years and have never got 5 Michaels (except with a wild), 5 wilds or 5 Scatters, do they ever come in? I've never had more than 3 Wild Desires. It was quite emotional when I got WDs on reels 3,4 and 5 but no win!

I take the point that you can expect this behaviour on high variance slots, but there's not many saying that they're currently having a good run on IR.

Mind you, if you want to experience dead runs, try Playboy......

 

[Lucky Loser]

I've played IR almost every day since it came out.

I have got 5 scatters once and 4 wild reels in wild desire twice - in the space of about 1 month. I am still waiting on 4 & 5 wilds in the normal game. I got 4 wilds for the first time on TFROL recently and I also play it a lot.

The top hits are just super rare but you can get them in relatively quick succession. You just need a huge amount of luck.

 

[Valhalla]

I'm also of the opinion that IR has been very poor of late. It's gobbled up £500+ of mine over the last few days alone. To be fair, the payout from the bonus features the rare time they've triggered have been average, not awful, but not exceptional either. What I find plays with my head emotionally are the runs of dead spin after dead spin. Can be 10 to 20 in a row.

As an aside I've been playing IR for years and have never got 5 Michaels (except with a wild), 5 wilds or 5 Scatters, do they ever come in? I've never had more than 3 Wild Desires. It was quite emotional when I got WDs on reels 3,4 and 5 but no win!

I take the point that you can expect this behaviour on high variance slots, but there's not many saying that they're currently having a good run on IR.

Mind you, if you want to experience dead runs, try Playboy......

That's the strangest thing because neither have I. Not once have I ever hit 5 Michael in the base game, without wilds. Why is that? He's not even the top symbol
I've had 5 scatter several times though, but never 5 wild either.

I've had 5 natural Michael during Amber's free spins, which was nice, but doesn't count towards my pay table completion nonsense

 

[dave1888]

Once I have had a good free spins feature. I do not play it so often because it has been extremely vile for me more often than not. TH2 on the other hand much better success in real and in tournaments. I would actually say that finer reels of life is the worst of the 4 though! This game can take £100 at 30p bets in no time at all! Again only maybe 2 biggish free spins sessions out of the hundreds of spins played on this.

 

[mcgameboy]

If this thread had been started 2 or 3 weeks ago, I'd have said yes. Because at around that time, I was getting a right proper beating any time I played it. Almost every time I fired it up, I would be waiting in excess of 20 spins to get ONE win that paid me more than my bet. After playing for less than 2 minutes, I've already been done for 15% of my bankroll.

But since then, about a week and a half ago to be precise, I decided to make two changes...

1. Drop my bets from 60p to 30p. Betting at 60p was wiping me out so fast, I felt I had no choice but to drop my betsize in order to grind my way into finding some form of rungood.

2. Mix up my picks when it comes to bonus round selections. Amber was always my go to pick when playing this game, as that feature consistently outperformed the other three. On Amber's feature, I've had several rounds where I won 100x bet or better. And even a couple of 300+x bet wins. This was in comparison to the other three features, where (up until a mere 10 days ago), I have had ZERO rounds where I won 100x bet (my best was a Troy round where I won c.75x bet). Now you know why Amber was an automatic pick for me.

So anyway, I made a deposit at Golden Lounge 10 days ago and fired up IR. Before I started play, I made a conscious decision to avoid the Amber feature completely and try and get some success on the other three features through sheer stubborn bloody-mindedness. Or go broke trying.

Net result was this....a PB on Troy's feature of 135x bet, then a PB on Michael's feature of 175x bet, then a new PB on Troy's feature of 218 x bet.
But it was not enough to stop me from eventually going broke, courtesy of a disasterous session on The Dark Knight. However, it was only a £25 deposit plus £25 bonus, so no biggie.

Another £25 deposit at All Slots 2 days later, same strategy. And I get a PB on Sarah's feature of 119x bet. 2 days later on that same deposit, a 3 reel WD, which gave me 27 5OAKS for 9s (groan lol, but it was that or a zero win sickener, so 9s will do thank you very much). That win took me to a balance that was over 5 times my deposit and I decided to cash out. Result.

3 days later, I make a first deposit of £150 at Euro Palace with 100% bonus....same plan....avoid Amber once I unlock Troy's feature. Play Troy until I unlock Michael and so on. On the second day of my playthrough, I unlock Sarah's feature...and then the big hit arrived.

Sarah AND wild on reels 1 and 2. Wild on reel 4. And a wild vine on reel 3. All I want is a wild vine on reel 5 and I've got myself a monster. I didn't get one. I got THREE instead! - 7 wilds plus 2 Sarahs (I've been meaning to post it in the 5 wilds thread but haven't done so yet).....net result ....a 650x bet win on a 30p bet. My biggest ever win (in x bet terms) on IR....ever. Even better than a 3 reel WD which gave me 27 x 5OAKs of Sarah....which paid a "mere" 457.5 x bet.

Funny thing is....after that.....I then started to get some bad rounds on those three features, including a Michael round which paid less than 1.5 x bet. That was the straw that made me go back to picking Amber's feature on a regular basis.

Net result....I can't hit a 50x bet win on this feature for fucking toffee at the moment lol. In fact, I am now getting rounds of ZERO x bet and a lot of sub-10x bet wins.

Despite this, my confidence in IR has been restored a bit. But it took me to drop to 30p a spin for that minor streak of rungood to happen. And my confidence in IR is not restored fully enough for me to want to start betting at 60p a spin again. This slot can give you one serious beating, even on 30p spins. So I have decided to accept that it's in my best interests to stay at 30p...for good. If the fecker is gonna beat me, it's gonna have to do it the slow way. So slap it up ya MG lol.

 

[chris87]

I had a session on IM last night. Had 2 Wild Desires in fairly quick succession, the first reel 5 went wild only, no win, the next one reels 1, 4 & 5 went wild, yes, you guessed it....no win, Really frustrating!

I then had the feature soon after, chose Amber.......no win (apart from the 3 scatters for getting in)

I think I'd prefer dead spins that that, really messes with your head (which is of course the idea!)

Chris

 

[syntynyt]

had the second session in august yesterday. wish i better played roulette black/red because of the fast pace my balance was sucked. initial 45 deposit, doubling up several risks on BDBA and few blackjack hands up to 210. was about to withdraw but IR appeared as recommended and switched my mind, being one of my past fav slots. 200 starting balance - 0.60 bets first half 0.90 the second. 3 bonuses, all Amber, all mostly dead. one WD, one reel. near miss after near miss in base game. about 10 minutes of playtime. very disappointed. wish i played Playboy like most of the time i do, picking first feature and at least is giving something in return. base game also better, more frequent girls with wilds. here i put an end to IR until december when will have the very last try. IR symbols from bonuses have been reduced to extinction is just not worth anymore.

 

[Valhalla]

Just 2 days ago I was playing this yahoo of a game at BetVictor, and managed to land a 220x bet win on Amber's feature (60p bet, win £132).
Free spins were triggered after only around 10 spins too, which was very nice.

Alas, it quickly returned to the game I've come to hate so I jumped ship before things turned nasty.
I'm still very happy as I finally "broke my duck" so to speak, and made a nice profit, so I cannot complain in the slightest

mcgameboy - I really appreciate your post. Thanks for taking the time to write that all out. And I might just do the same tonight because I'm feeling lucky

 

[JackMack]

You are not alone. When a game is dead for you it is dead for you and as has been mentioned the more you chase the worse it seems to get.

I would take the advice of trying different games at different bet levels and only going back to it for brief sessions if you are winning to see if anything has changed.

I know we are told the TRTP is set and never changed and that all previous results are irrelevant but after almost 10 years online play and millions of spins I find that completely impossible to believe.
Either way a change of scene or a break is the correct answer.
Good luck

 

[mcgameboy]

I'm also of the opinion that IR has been very poor of late. It's gobbled up £500+ of mine over the last few days alone. To be fair, the payout from the bonus features the rare time they've triggered have been average, not awful, but not exceptional either. What I find plays with my head emotionally are the runs of dead spin after dead spin. Can be 10 to 20 in a row.

I've had so many IR sessions where the first 20 spins were so brutal it made me wonder if I had the worst timing in the history of the universe. Then I realised that streaks of 20 dead/losing spins are actually fairly common.

As an aside I've been playing IR for years and have never got 5 Michaels (except with a wild), 5 wilds or 5 Scatters, do they ever come in? I've never had more than 3 Wild Desires. It was quite emotional when I got WDs on reels 3,4 and 5 but no win!

Hardly ever....and there's a good reason why. At the Fortune Lounge casinos, you can earn extra payouts from completing achievements on IR. ALL of the cash based rewards hinge on you completing the Michael, Wild and Scatter achievements. The rest of the achievements give reward points instead. There was a thread about this started sometime last year.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/immortal-romance-where-on-earth-is-michael.55974/

As for the 3 reel WD, getting a 3 reel Wild Desire that pays nothing has gut to be one of the most gut-wrenching plays on any online slot. I am glad to say I have never suffered such a blow. I've only had 4 Wild Desires where I've had 3 reels turned wild. And I have got 5OAKs from all four. And two of those four did include the dreaded 1, 4 and 5 or 2, 4 and 5 or 3, 4 and 5 combo. I have to admit I was more relieved than delighted when I won on those two.

I take the point that you can expect this behaviour on high variance slots, but there's not many saying that they're currently having a good run on IR.

It's not just the high variance, it's the high popularity of the slot itself. The more people playing, the harder it is to be "the chosen one" who gets IR when it's at it's most generous mood.

Mind you, if you want to experience dead runs, try Playboy......

Agreed that Playboy can be exceptionally dead at times. But I find those dead runs to be no better or no worse than IR. Where I have noticed the difference is that on IR, you do sometimes get the odd 5OAK of Amber during those dead runs. Playboy seems to give no better than a 5OAK of As.

I've played IR almost every day since it came out.

I have got 5 scatters once and 4 wild reels in wild desire twice - in the space of about 1 month. I am still waiting on 4 & 5 wilds in the normal game. I got 4 wilds for the first time on TFROL recently and I also play it a lot.

Funny you say that. Until a mere 4 days ago, I had never managed a 4 wilds either. One of the other weird things I have found when playing TFROL...On TFROL's Coffee and Chocolate feature, I've had more re-triggers with 4 scatters (three) than I've had on IR (once), TS2 (never) and Playboy (once - and it only happened in the last 7 days) combined. And that is despite the fact I play TRFOL the least of those four.

The top hits are just super rare but you can get them in relatively quick succession. You just need a huge amount of luck.

Agreed. On one Sunday at Virtual City Casino, I hit no less than 7 5OAKs of Sarah (with most of them having at least 2 wilds) plus a 3 reel WD that led to 27 x 5OAKs of Qs plus my only ever spin with a wild in each of the first four reels. I didn't even need any good bonus rounds to make a killing on it that day. Wins of 290xbet, 140x bet and 120xbet.

That's the strangest thing because neither have I. Not once have I ever hit 5 Michael in the base game, without wilds. Why is that? He's not even the top symbol
I've had 5 scatter several times though, but never 5 wild either.

Impressive. I'm still waiting.

I've had 5 natural Michael during Amber's free spins, which was nice, but doesn't count towards my pay table completion nonsense

Same here. I've also had a natural 5OAK of Michael in Michael's feature. But during the base game, I can barely get a natural 3OAK of Michael, let alone a 5OAK. It's so rare that when I get any 5OAK of Michael or a natural 3OAK of Michael, I always let the music play out in full before I hit SPIN again, mainly because I forgot what it sounded like lol.

Just 2 days ago I was playing this yahoo of a game at BetVictor, and managed to land a 220x bet win on Amber's feature (60p bet, win £132).
Free spins were triggered after only around 10 spins too, which was very nice.

Alas, it quickly returned to the game I've come to hate so I jumped ship before things turned nasty.
I'm still very happy as I finally "broke my duck" so to speak, and made a nice profit, so I cannot complain in the slightest

mcgameboy - I really appreciate your post. Thanks for taking the time to write that all out. And I might just do the same tonight because I'm feeling lucky

No problem mate. And well done for breaking your duck. Hopefully it's the start of a purple patch for you

 

[suomikala87]

The more people playing, the harder it is to be "the chosen one" who gets IR when it's at it's most generous mood.

Now that sounds like a proper tinfoil hat theory - could you tell me why exactly do you have a lesser chance of being ¨the chosen one¨ if more players are playing said slot?

 

[whodatrec]

Because the slots are not random.... AWP/Jacpot system.. One IP adresse gets chosen to get the dream hit! Im sure this is the way it works... They will still pay the advertised RTP. Used to work in a bingo joint, with bingo slots.. And they where all connected to one server.. Usuall pattern; all machines where totally dead exept one that paid out... Same for online casinos i guess. Explains streaks aswell

 

[mcgameboy]

Now that sounds like a proper tinfoil hat theory - could you tell me why exactly do you have a lesser chance of being ¨the chosen one¨ if more players are playing said slot?

I wasn't saying my "odds/chances" are worse, just that I am "competing" against more people for a slice of the winning pie. Maybe it does sound tinfoil. I have to admit that I haven't chosen the best words there. I certainly do not think for one second that it is rigged. If I did think that, I'd never play.

 

[Valhalla]

No problem mate. And well done for breaking your duck. Hopefully it's the start of a purple patch for you

And again today... Was having a bad day all-round @ BetVictor. Went on to Immortal Romance with £30 left, and had a great game betting 60p.
Loads of wins, and an impressive £100.70 on Amber's free spins. Left the game with a balance of £190

/thread

 

[ProbabilityZero]

And again today... Was having a bad day all-round @ BetVictor. Went on to Immortal Romance with £30 left, and had a great game betting 60p.
Loads of wins, and an impressive £100.70 on Amber's free spins. Left the game with a balance of £190

/thread

Sorry for dragging up an old thread but thought better than making a new one when there are loads dedicated to this slot.

I have had a love/hate relationship with this slot for quite awhile. Lately I have been deflated as I normally take a 32 Red bonus offer and then when I actually meet WR I stupidly carry on playing to zero. Done this twice recently from £10 deposits that end up over a hundred after WR and stupidly blow it.

Now I know you are going to advise that I have a gambling addiction, but I'm not sure that I do as I often take a months break without even fancying gambling. I think it's more a case that when I play Immortal Romance I can't stop! I would point out that I don't have this problem with other slots! There is something hypnotic about it.

Yesterday I deposited £10 with a £2.50 match bonus and lost before WR. I then deposited six more payments of £10 (a day's wage to me on minimum wage as a care assistant) and thank the lord Amber delivered with a fantastic £123.00 bonus round on 30p spins (all my spins are 30p).

As soon as I got this win I managed to stop (after 8 hours play). I think I was determined to snag something big and either bust or cash in. Net result £219 balance from £70.00 deposit (play funds £72.50 as first £10 had a £2.50 bonus).

So after rambling and boring everyone I am thankfully feeling elated. Does anyone else find their willpower tested more with this slot than others?

 

[aceking123]

So after rambling and boring everyone I am thankfully feeling elated. Does anyone else find their willpower tested more with this slot than others?[/QUOTE]

12 hour session on it start point 353 free chip , from all slots last year , not sure why i got that chip ,bets up to £4.80 balance hoovering over 4k after this session , hit the wild desire a fair few times best being three wilds with connecting amber for 1500 quid or so , did get upto 6k playing other slots pity i didn't cash it all out , too many problems with cashing out , got 2.5k of it blow the rest as they was pulling out of uk , top tier as well after playing this slot , wouldn't do it again for too long to play on internet games & online i just do small amount of play , i didn't feel good after playing this long online

hence why i play small time slots & i have certain times on days to when i play ) so i don't get involved ,other things to do

 

[dave1888]

So after rambling and boring everyone I am thankfully feeling elated. Does anyone else find their willpower tested more with this slot than others?

I'll seldom play it I lose my patience often with this slot! 1 scatter 2 scatter reel 3 spin,reel 4 spin reel 5 oh oh oh nope yet again the bugger evades me in spectacular fashion! I tend not to play it unless I have at least £40-50 starting cash and even that amount is not secure I remember sinking £180 at unibet on this at just 60p bets within half an hour. It is not just you oh and every wild desire has been guff for me best I have had is 70x bet I am sure! Maybe even less than that.