State of uk online gaming

[shadow123]

Been scanning through the accredited casinos and the meister ratings list looking for decent UK licenced casinos and was totally gobsmacked at how few are available,so many casinos have given up on the UK market and non of the big bookie names appear on the meister list which ends at a rating level of 6.6.
The UKGC have really decimated the UK market over the last few years and players have little choice left other
than the shitty rtp , crap service and SOW obsessed casinos like Mecca, Sky Ladrokes and Gala.
The only decent casino I know of now is Lottomart, just hope they can afford to continue to operate in UK.
Despite what the UKCG think players are going to have go offshore with all the risks involved to play if they want
to find decent rtps,real bonuses and good playtime for their deposits and be able to play without the dreaded
axe of SOW hanging over them.
Really sorry state of affairs.

Casinomeister review of Lottomart Casino

 

[ritae]

The only noticeable decline for me is the drop in RTP. Some games have become unplayable now at 92%, Microgaming for example.

Would never consider any crypto casino, too many risks, and I wouldn't have the foggiest on how to purchase them in the first place to transfer!

 

[shadow123]

I would have no idea how to deposit with crypto either, probably a good thing

 

[winner2021]

I'm not on the first two sites you mention but I'm on the other two-had no idea they are going big on the SOW so thanks for the heads up. I only play those two occasionally so not ran into any problems with them yet.

Yeh the sites are getting worse and worse. They recently took most of mine down to 80p or £1 a line on slots-but you can still stake 20 lines, no thanks. Ruined my fun but I guess that's the idea! Have moved onto slingo now instead.

 

[justdoit]

I play on Pokerstars Skybet Virgingames bet365 Unibet not ask me for SOW yet, they all paid me very fast without any problem, RTP not bad from 94% to 96% , I play also on Lottomart not bad RTP is ok fast pay out

 

[shadow123]

Self excluded from red32 years ago before they joined up with Unibet, tried to sign up with them they wouldnt even discuss
it until 2024.Am a player at 365, despite the good rtps,cannot win there, happens with some casinos,.
Had accounts at Virgin and Sky years ago, cant remember why I stopped playing.

 

[deleted20230517]

I would have no idea how to deposit with crypto either, probably a good thing

Don't. You'll pay a shit ton of fee's for converting one to another. And sometimes payments with crypto can take up to a half hour to even proces.

 

[Cicadasinthetrees78]

Don't. You'll pay a shit ton of fee's for converting one to another. And sometimes payments with crypto can take up to a half hour to even proces.

No offence, but are you in recovery? All of your posts have this weird D.A.R.E vibe. Neither of those things are true by the way.

 

[justdoit]

Self excluded from red32 years ago before they joined up with Unibet, tried to sign up with them they wouldnt even discuss
it until 2024.Am a player at 365, despite the good rtps,cannot win there, happens with some casinos,.
Had accounts at Virgin and Sky years ago, cant remember why I stopped playing.

Virgingame has lot of games on max RTP, not many games but they keep adding, Sky 94% RTP they adding games also, I prefer Pokerstars coz they have lot of games, they also have lots of free spins and cash offer more u spend more u get
problem with unibet they do credit check better credit more limit

 

[slot_zombie]

Don't. You'll pay a shit ton of fee's for converting one to another.

I'm getting a total rebate of 25% of monthly losses back in cash from an offshore place, when I have an unlucky.month. So a quid or two in crypto fees doesn't even register.

 

[satchnz]

I'm getting a total rebate of 25% of monthly losses back in cash from an offshore place, when I have an unlucky.month. So a quid or two in crypto fees doesn't even register.

Yeah it always amazes me how people are happy to spaff away hundreds on slots, yet they definitely don’t want to pay a buck or two in fees…

 

[Casinomeister]

Yeah it always amazes me how people are happy to spaff away hundreds on slots, yet they definitely don’t want to pay a buck or two in fees…

I think it's about the principle of the thing - paying someone a fee for them to just push a button.

Oops - that's what slot players do

 

[justdoit]

Yeah it always amazes me how people are happy to spaff away hundreds on slots, yet they definitely don’t want to pay a buck or two in fees…

is not buck or two is more like 50buck

 

[satchnz]

is not buck or two is more like 50buck

You are buying your crypto from the wrong place my friend.

 

[justdoit]

You are buying your crypto from the wrong place my friend.

5% to 7% they charger in UK $1000 5% 50 buck cant find cheaper in UK, maybe you buying on local supermarket and paying cheaper

 

[Valhalla]

What I've done recently is reduce my bet size down to smallest possible. Not because I want to but I'm trying to fly below the SOW radar as long as possible - I've only been asked once, last week, when trying to reopen my Casumo account. I declined to provide SOW and told them to keep my account closed.
Should any other casinos ask, they will see me for the last time as well. It's sad, but what can be done? The online (casino) gaming industry is close to collapsing in the UK and then we won't have to concern ourselves with it because we won't have casinos to play at anyway.

 

[shadow123]

Crazy having to worry about your stake level,I was happily playing in Bingo halls and arcades at £2 many years ago, now
my comfortable maximum online is £1,my usual stake is either 50p or 60p partly to get some playtime but mainly to keep
under the SOW radar.What strange times we live in, still cant get my head round why gambling is considered so bad now.

 

[deleted20230517]

What is the problem with a KYC procedure? They are entitled or forced by law todo so.

I mean submit your files; and you should be good to go. They have a vault for that reason and they cant use it for anything other then verification. I mean the fines are huge if a casino allows unregistered players to play at their establishment.

 

[deleted20230517]

No offence, but are you in recovery? All of your posts have this weird D.A.R.E vibe. Neither of those things are true by the way.

Ive attemped crypto in the past... I even mined owning up to 24 eth. But left or right your always confronted with these ridiculous fee's.

 

[shadow123]

No problem with KYC providing its just the essential documents being requested.
SOW is a much bigger problem with very confidential and intrusive information being demanded often involving
third party data and no garrantee that it will remain secure.Also it is often demanded when a player makes a large withdrawal
request and the casino cant find any excuse in their terms not to pay out.

 

[Valhalla]

Also it is often demanded when a player makes a large withdrawal
request and the casino cant find any excuse in their terms not to pay out.

And this is really awful as well. Some regular player with a small weekly budget for entertainment hits a life changing win at a "reputable" casino, only to hit the SOW roadblock.
"Show us your highly private financial details; we need to know how you can afford to deposit £40 a week here..."

I have yet to - and never will - send casinos my bank statements, pay slips, tax forms etc. But I'm assuming we can't redact any information either? I think I'd be ok if I could send them a bank statement with all but my monthly salary censored, so they can see I am actually earning a regular (legal) income. But my guess is they will want to know every penny I spend, and where I spend it. This is beyond acceptable imo.

 

[satchnz]

What is the problem with a KYC procedure? They are entitled or forced by law todo so.

I mean submit your files; and you should be good to go. They have a vault for that reason and they cant use it for anything other then verification. I mean the fines are huge if a casino allows unregistered players to play at their establishment.

KYC - yes. Personal financial documents for SOW - no.

You seem to often push the narrative in favour of the casinos. Can I ask if you are in any way affiliated with one of the regulatory bodies involved in the gambling industry?

 

[bamberfishcake]

is not buck or two is more like 50buck

Coinify charge 2.5% handling fee. I think Binance is cheaper, and there are a few other ways to swap fiat for crypto a little cheaper also, I believe.

 

[antpulpfiction]

It's a shame that the UKGC has made it so difficult for players to find good service and fair RTPs. It's tough out there! But hey, at least you've found Lottomart - that's something, right? Hopefully they'll be able to stick around for a while and provide players with the experience they deserve. It's frustrating to think that players might have to go offshore to find what they're looking for, but you gotta do what you gotta do, I guess.

 

[justdoit]

Coinify charge 2.5% handling fee. I think Binance is cheaper, and there are a few other ways to swap fiat for crypto a little cheaper also, I believe.

yes Handle fee plus transfer fee u end up with 5% is just the tricks they use to think is cheaper, like Skrill says they charger 2% but transfer fee is like 3%