NetEnt: Creature from the Black Lagoon (December)

[chuchu59]

Netent: WTF? First it was South Park and now this slot. I cant play. Wail!

 

[orion]

Been giving this slot a good run for about 2 weeks.

I can explain it this way - if you don't hit in the first 100 or so spins run... this is typical money gobbling territory. Insane variance and wins not matching the greediness of the slot.

I have had a couple hits in the 50x to 200x range but have lost more 200x balances with my worst being about 800x bet without even seeing a 100x hit. Id say i went ahead on average 2-3 times out of 10 for about 100 - 200x.

Hit a record earlier - must of had 15 Free spins in about 300 spins. Every single one of them paid horrendous. I had a 4 scatter feature trigger in between that paid about 7x bet. i had to increase my bet to almost double to eventually even out. Had to also wait for 650 spins to see a feature trigger that paid under 10x.

Chasing or running long on any New NetEnt slot is disastrous for your bankroll. I have never seen slots with such poor paying capability rape a balance as quick as NetEnt can miraculously achieve.

NetEnt has managed to design slots to suck the sugar out of your tea without you noticing then throw you half a teaspoon for every 3 it steals.

I think this is actually the last NetEnt 'New' release I will ever play. I cannot begin to fathom high rolling on these slots. Trust me I have given them a good shot all round at various bet sizes and am significantly down on this and twin spin. Variance seems worse than DOA with low crappy pays to match.

Nate

thank you Nate for sharing your experience
I did much less spins than you but I arrived to the same identical conclusions.
Actually I was more focused on the reels' design and once more I had a 200++ spins streak without never hitting the wild symbol on the first reel.
Yesterday I took decision to give up with NetEnt. Great slots, innovative design, entertaining games, but I am not a football star and I cannot go on depositing and depositing without receiving any reward.
I'll take a 12 months break and then... who knows.
However I'll be truly happy to see here your winners and maybe some better luck (?) for other players.
Ciao

 

[Nate]

This is ideally how it works - I don't want to bring this into the DOA thread.

My initial impression was that the variance was insane, and payouts were too scattered.

Start Balance 300 Euro.... initially betting 1.80 Euro... upped to about 2 Euro after i reached 150. deposited a further 450 Euro and eventually hit this:



2 features afterwards paid about 10x and 20x respectively. Landed one more and got a 200x odd hit to bring me about 100 Euro ahead. Considering the bet size, time taken and spins i was disappointed. I broke even and left. Rinse, and repeat .... I've hit 4 scatters a few times and my best is around 200x.

Dangerous territory.

Nate

 

[Blathaon]

This is ideally how it works - I don't want to bring this into the DOA thread.

My initial impression was that the variance was insane, and payouts were too scattered.

Start Balance 300 Euro.... initially betting 1.80 Euro... upped to about 2 Euro after i reached 150. deposited a further 450 Euro and eventually hit this:

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2 features afterwards paid about 10x and 20x respectively. Landed one more and got a 200x odd hit to bring me about 100 Euro ahead. Considering the bet size, time taken and spins i was disappointed. I broke even and left. Rinse, and repeat .... I've hit 4 scatters a few times and my best is around 200x.

Dangerous territory.

Nate

I like this game, definitely NetEnt's best 2013 release.
I do agree that it can be brutal, just like TwinSpin it often goes through horrible dead patches, but on the flip side you might hit several 50-100x+ wins close togheter, they feel more "streaky" than most other NetEnt slots.

I have done ok on CftBL, i have had quite a few base game hits over 200x. And have had several good features in the 200-300x range, with my best being 671x and 722x.

My two best base game hits.


My two best features.

 

[Nate]

Awesome hits...

Really like the game and Id agree its their best release... Hoping to hit something closer to 400 or 500x soon. Been a bit greedy with me....

Nate

 

[tinybettor]

Decide to give this slot another shot and still the same brutal whiplashing. Small deposit of $60, 60c bets, two bonus rounds, 1 paying 8x and the other 40x which almost seemed like a miracle hit given the bad run I was having. Thought the slot might of warmed up but unfortunately after that little win, balance quickly drained back to nil with best win of 10x bet. Netent has just practically depleted my entire once in a lifetime win that I had on Microgaming a month ago in 2 weeks, no crazy bets as well. I guess this is why they call it gambling, just didn't expect such a bad streak. Might need a tinfoil hat soon with the way things are going!

 

[Nate]

Decide to give this slot another shot and still the same brutal whiplashing. Small deposit of $60, 60c bets, two bonus rounds, 1 paying 8x and the other 40x which almost seemed like a miracle hit given the bad run I was having. Thought the slot might of warmed up but unfortunately after that little win, balance quickly drained back to nil with best win of 10x bet. Netent has just practically depleted my entire once in a lifetime win that I had on Microgaming a month ago in 2 weeks, no crazy bets as well. I guess this is why they call it gambling, just didn't expect such a bad streak. Might need a tinfoil hat soon with the way things are going!

I always give everything I play a REAL good go. After the Screenie, did a bit of $4 Bets at Maxino and was quickly pistol whipped to the tune of about $1k

Had a 4 scatter trigger again and it paid a paltry 40x bet. Since yesterday I have done thousands of spins and my best hit in the FS was around 150x and about 200x in the base game.

Never did trigger the additional spins nor have I had much opportunity to see the last set of wilds. I probably had them a few times with a spin or 2 remaining and didn't actually win anything.

Nate

 

[kazzi]

I've managed to get the extra 10freespins 2times, and both times the 10spins gave zip maybe 1-2wilds thats it but i got 150-200x on those features though just seems like the extra spins is just showoff, but some guys wins huge on this 5-1000x so wins is there just as rare as DOA almost i guess.

 

[Nate]

Im curious to see if anyone hit something bigger than 1000x bet. I have seen a screenie for $200 from a $0.20c bet.

Anyone seen anything bigger?

Nate

 

[Blathaon]

Im curious to see if anyone hit something bigger than 1000x bet. I have seen a screenie for $200 from a $0.20c bet.

Anyone seen anything bigger?

Nate

I Haven't seen anything bigger than that, but it is clearly possible.

A full screen of wilds is 750x, and if you look at the video of my 722x win, you can see that you can achieve a lot bigger wins.
3000x+ for a feature is definitely possible.

So just for fun let's take my video and see what it would have paid, if instead of ending when it did it would have kept dropping wilds.




5619 :balance after the win in the top left picture.
5312.5 :top right win
5312.5 :bottom left win
7500 :bottom right win
7500 :last respin with full screen of wilds
31244 :total win


So had this imaginary scenario happened it would have paid 3124x
And this is not with a perfect wild order, if the wilds drop in the best possible order and you get good symbols on the road to a full screen of wilds it can go even higher.

I'm guessing 4000x+ is possible.

Here is the video if anyone want's to watch it.
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/winner-videos.42826/

EDIT: turns out that the above scenario isn't possible, Thanks to The Viking for pointing out that the expanding wilds only land on reels 2, 3 and 4.
So to get a full screen of wilds you would need to hit them on reels 2 and 4.

So in this case the best i could have hoped for is.

5619 :balance after the win in the top left picture.
5312.5 :top right win
5312.5 :Respin
16244:total win

for a total of 1624x

 

[Nate]

Thanks...

Doesn't look very reassuring, and the chances are probably slim to none. Given how much I have played this Slot and being used to very high variance slots I can tell you that this is a hit or miss. Its a miss 90% of the time.

Looks like it will burn a hole right through your wallet and the guy standing next to you too. With the amount of really horrific sessions I have had thus far, I seriously cannot see any light or begin to imagine a decent payout of 1000x PLUS.

For me it looks like JATBS, behaves like DOA and pays like Starburst.... F*ckin' horrific.

Nate

 

[maphesto]

For me it looks like JATBS, behaves like DOA and pays like Starburst.... F*ckin' horrific.

Nate

This is probably what NetEnt intended, a real money sucker.

Kidding, I do like this slot machine. After a free spin session on it I move on whether it went ok or not. I am probably up a few bucks on it but not much. I think 400 times the bet is my highest win on it.

 

[The Viking]

This is not possible because if a wild lands behind a wild it does not expand? ive seen it so you need the wilds to land on reel 2 and 4 only, top middle and bottom to get a full screen of wilds so after pic 2 there you can not get more wilds.

 

[Blathaon]

This is not possible because if a wild lands behind a wild it does not expand? ive seen it so you need the wilds to land on reel 2 and 4 only, top middle and bottom to get a full screen of wilds so after pic 2 there you can not get more wilds.

You are correct in that wilds that lands behind a wild does not expand. But im pretty sure the wilds can land on any reel. I've seen it landing on reels 2, 3 and 4 so im assuming that they can land in any spot.

 

[The Viking]

You are correct in that wilds that lands behind a wild does not expand. But im pretty sure the wilds can land on any reel. I've seen it landing on reels 2 3 and 4 so im assuming that they can land in any spot.

true it lands on reels 2,3 and 4 but if it happens to land on reel 3 first you can not get full line of wilds cause if in next spin it lands on either 2 and 4 on same line it does not expand.

 

[Blathaon]

true it lands on reels 2,3 and 4 but if it happens to land on reel 3 first you can not get full line of wilds cause if in next spin it lands on either 2 and 4 on same line it does not expand.

Yes but are you sure they cannot land on reel 1 and 5? . If you are then i agree that the scenario i suggested is not possible.

 

[The Viking]

Yes but are you sure they cannot land on reel 1 and 5? . If you are then i agree that the scenario i suggested is not possible.

it only lands on reel one when there is only 1 wild, once it unlocked the first wild it only lands on 2,3,and 4

 

[Blathaon]

it only lands on reel one when there is only 1 wild, once it unlocked the first wild it only lands on 2,3,and 4

ok, well that sucks. I just assumed that they could land anywhere, extremely hard to get a full screen then

 

[The Viking]

ok, well that sucks. I just assumed that they could land anywhere, extremely hard to get a full screen then

yep indeed it is you need to be extremly lucky and only get wilds on reel 2 and 4 so they expand to reel 1 and 5 as well.

 

[Nate]

ok, well that sucks. I just assumed that they could land anywhere, extremely hard to get a full screen then

Did you EVER expect NetEnt to hand it to you on a platter. They are the MOST innovative company at killing a balance with just graphics. Honestly its sick. I think your chances at landing a big DOA hit far outweigh the ability for you to score big on this one.

Between now and yesterday I've triggered the Free Spins over 100 times. I have had hit for 100x about twice, never killed the creature nor did i even smell the last expanding wilds for more than 2 spins at MAX. Base game hits in the region of 100 - 200x were slightly more frequent - maybe 5 times.

Nothing significant ever happened to make me say Wow... The only time I said that was when it became apparent I was chasing a lost cause almost 90 % of my sessions.

I think the thing that winds me up most is just the blunt fact that NetEnt is out to carve you into pieces whilst ensuring you never get ahead substantially enough to withdraw the majority of your sessions. That is Casino business in a nutshell but the way their new slots play makes me feel like i'm being robbed on the side of the street by a group of thugs.

I enjoy their games but running them for extended periods of time only prove that its a useless endevour to gain significant ground apart from when you are extremely lucky.

I think i'm back to the DOA marathons - I see more value there any day than on ALL the new crap NetEnt produce.

Nate

 

[lotusch]

Did you EVER expect NetEnt to hand it to you on a platter. They are the MOST innovative company at killing a balance with just graphics. Honestly its sick. I think your chances at landing a big DOA hit far outweigh the ability for you to score big on this one.

Between now and yesterday I've triggered the Free Spins over 100 times. I have had hit for 100x about twice, never killed the creature nor did i even smell the last expanding wilds for more than 2 spins at MAX. Base game hits in the region of 100 - 200x were slightly more frequent - maybe 5 times.

Nothing significant ever happened to make me say Wow... The only time I said that was when it became apparent I was chasing a lost cause almost 90 % of my sessions.

I think the thing that winds me up most is just the blunt fact that NetEnt is out to carve you into pieces whilst ensuring you never get ahead substantially enough to withdraw the majority of your sessions. That is Casino business in a nutshell but the way their new slots play makes me feel like i'm being robbed on the side of the street by a group of thugs.

I enjoy their games but running them for extended periods of time only prove that its a useless endevour to gain significant ground apart from when you are extremely lucky.

I think i'm back to the DOA marathons - I see more value there any day than on ALL the new crap NetEnt produce.

Nate

I so agree 100% with you on this buddy!
Well said and oh so true!

 

[Blathaon]

Did you EVER expect NetEnt to hand it to you on a platter. They are the MOST innovative company at killing a balance with just graphics. Honestly its sick. I think your chances at landing a big DOA hit far outweigh the ability for you to score big on this one.

Between now and yesterday I've triggered the Free Spins over 100 times. I have had hit for 100x about twice, never killed the creature nor did i even smell the last expanding wilds for more than 2 spins at MAX. Base game hits in the region of 100 - 200x were slightly more frequent - maybe 5 times.

Nothing significant ever happened to make me say Wow... The only time I said that was when it became apparent I was chasing a lost cause almost 90 % of my sessions.

I think the thing that winds me up most is just the blunt fact that NetEnt is out to carve you into pieces whilst ensuring you never get ahead substantially enough to withdraw the majority of your sessions. That is Casino business in a nutshell but the way their new slots play makes me feel like i'm being robbed on the side of the street by a group of thugs.

I enjoy their games but running them for extended periods of time only prove that its a useless endevour to gain significant ground apart from when you are extremely lucky.

I think i'm back to the DOA marathons - I see more value there any day than on ALL the new crap NetEnt produce.

Nate

Hehe, well i wouldn't say it would have been EASY even if it had been possible the way i outlined.
Nothing i have seen yet by any software developer beats DoA when it comes to the frequency of 1000x+ hits.

And in general i agree with you that most of the recent output from NetEnt is bankroll Busters. I still like CftBL though, but definitely best to "enjoy" it in moderation.

Aside from DoA, the other NetEnt games that i play are CftBL, Silent Run, Twinspin, Evolution. And occasionally South Park, Gonzo's Quest and Secret of the Stones(speaking of bankroll busters, this one have been brutal)

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Can't bloody believe I have gone 20 SPINS WITHOUT one single win line on Starburst today. I have never since this slot got released tried that. Normally go maximum around 10 spins before a tiny win comes in. What is the longest you guys have tried going on this slot without a win? Please note that stake here was only €0.10 i played at LeoVegas as used their signup offer where you get credited every day with 20 spins for 9 days. this is my day 7 of them and not had ny session without at least smaller wins

I know should be big difference if its £1 spins or higher

 

[Jazzbaz]

Can't bloody believe I have gone 20 SPINS WITHOUT one single win line on Starburst today. I have never since this slot got released tried that. Normally go maximum around 10 spins before a tiny win comes in. What is the longest you guys have tried going on this slot without a win? Please note that stake here was only €0.10 i played at LeoVegas as used their signup offer where you get credited every day with 20 spins for 9 days. this is my day 7 of them and not had ny session without at least smaller wins

I know should be big difference if its £1 spins or higher

Do you mean 20 dead spins in a row? If so, I think that is a fairly common occurence. My record in starburst is around 45 dead spins in a row, and 20+ happen pretty much every session where I spend any significant time on starburst.

 

[dunover]

Did you EVER expect NetEnt to hand it to you on a platter. They are the MOST innovative company at killing a balance with just graphics. Honestly its sick. I think your chances at landing a big DOA hit far outweigh the ability for you to score big on this one.

Between now and yesterday I've triggered the Free Spins over 100 times. I have had hit for 100x about twice, never killed the creature nor did i even smell the last expanding wilds for more than 2 spins at MAX. Base game hits in the region of 100 - 200x were slightly more frequent - maybe 5 times.

Nothing significant ever happened to make me say Wow... The only time I said that was when it became apparent I was chasing a lost cause almost 90 % of my sessions.

I think the thing that winds me up most is just the blunt fact that NetEnt is out to carve you into pieces whilst ensuring you never get ahead substantially enough to withdraw the majority of your sessions. That is Casino business in a nutshell but the way their new slots play makes me feel like i'm being robbed on the side of the street by a group of thugs.

I enjoy their games but running them for extended periods of time only prove that its a useless endevour to gain significant ground apart from when you are extremely lucky.

I think i'm back to the DOA marathons - I see more value there any day than on ALL the new crap NetEnt produce.

Nate

Absolutely agree. Did you see my screenie of a 521x stake (normal spin) in FREEPLAY? Must've been an aberration. Their slots are a cross between Vlad The Impaler, The Yorkshire Ripper and Ronnie Biggs.