Liberty Slots Casino & English Harbour Similarities

X, I kinda agree with you. Very rarely do I sign up at a casino thru an affiliate site unless it is an affiliate that I know personally or a forum that I frequent.
There could be as many reasons that casinos and affiliates have payment problems as there are between players and casinos.

Now how Liberty Slots got my information is a totally different ball of wax. I never played at English Harbor because I couldn't download the software just as I couldn't download Libery Slots on any computer except the notebook that I rarely use. So I can say with some certainty that someone else gave them my information. But we will never know who unless someone sliips and lets the information out.

Personally, I liked the software. Wish the casino was not so hinky so I could play there.
 
X, I kinda agree with you. Very rarely do I sign up at a casino thru an affiliate site unless it is an affiliate that I know personally or a forum that I frequent.
There could be as many reasons that casinos and affiliates have payment problems as there are between players and casinos.

Now how Liberty Slots got my information is a totally different ball of wax. I never played at English Harbor because I couldn't download the software just as I couldn't download Libery Slots on any computer except the notebook that I rarely use. So I can say with some certainty that someone else gave them my information. But we will never know who unless someone sliips and lets the information out.

Personally, I liked the software. Wish the casino was not so hinky so I could play there.

Exactly Annie. I'm very much hoping that Liberty Slots is a legit place to play at because I REALLY enjoyed English Harbour Casino.

I'm happy you see it my way about the affiliate thing and I agree with you about not using affiliate's sites to sign up.
As far as I'm concerned, CM IS my affiliate site that I've been trusting for a few years now. This is All I'm going to say about that subject
as I do not want to derail my own thread. :p
 
Hi All,

My name is Dylan Mandrake and I am your LibertySlots casino rep here at CasinoMeister - I apologize for my late arrival. I know everyone probably has a lot of questions, so please bear with me as I go through them all.

Liberty Slots is the first licensee of Wager Gaming Technology, who acquired the software from the former owners. We are not the owners of the software, but a licensee just like an MGS, playtech, or RTG licensee would be. We are in no way related to, affiliated with, or in communication with any of the former software owners casino brands.

In regards to the similarities - we are a new group and felt that using a site template would assist in software recognition amongst players. The music in the casino client was provided by the software company.

We conducted a soft launch/beta test of the casino to ensure everything was running as expected. Our foremost goal is to provide a positive user experience for our players, with excellent customer service, quick payouts and an overall great gaming experience. To conduct this soft launch, we enlisted the services of a third party marketing partner. We did not purchase the lists or have them in our possession, we simply used a partner to market to a target group.

Currently, we do not have an Affiliate Program live; however, we are working diligently on getting one up and running.

If you have further questions or I missed any from here, feel free to contact me here on CM or by email.

Regards,

Dylan Mandrake
Casino Manager | LibertySlots
affiliates@libertyslots.com
 
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Thanks for posting Dylan. I was just wondering if you have a third party who audits your games and if so do you plan on providing a seal of proof on the Liberty Slots website? Thanks!
 
Hi All,

My name is Dylan Mandrake and I am your LibertySlots casino rep here at CasinoMeister - I apologize for my late arrival. I know everyone probably has a lot of questions, so please bare with me as I go through them all.

Liberty Slots is the first licensee of Wager Gaming Technology, who acquired the software from the former owners. We are not the owners of the software, but a licensee just like an MGS, playtech, or RTG licensee would be. We are in no way related to, affiliated with, or in communication with any of the former software owners casino brands.

In regards to the similarities - we are a new group and felt that using a site template would assist in software recognition amongst players. The music in the casino client was provided by the software company.

We conducted a soft launch/beta test of the casino to ensure everything was running as expected. Our foremost goal is to provide a positive user experience for our players, with excellent customer service, quick payouts and an overall great gaming experience. To conduct this soft launch, we enlisted the services of a third party marketing partner. We did not purchase the lists or have them in our possession, we simply used a partner to market to a target group.

Currently, we do not have an Affiliate Program live; however, we are working diligently on getting one up and running.

If you have further questions or I missed any from here, feel free to contact me here on CM or by email.

Regards,

Dylan Mandrake
Casino Manager | LibertySlots
affiliates@libertyslots.com

Just why should we bare with you unless you are from Golden Palace of streaker fame?:D

Welcome to the forum though you are bound to have a busy time answering questions from our inquisitive members. For starters, you should address the concerns of X-raided the op of this thread.
 
Welcome to the forum Dylan - as I understand it your company Wager Gaming Technology has purchased the intellectual property and software assets of the former Odds On-Vegas Technology for an undisclosed consideration?

Did that agreement include records of English Harbour players, and can you say whether your company has the knowledge and technology to maintain and upgrade the software, and whether your takeover included the transfer of technical personnel from Vegas Tech?

Did the deal carry the licensing across too, or has your company had to satisfy any jurisdiction regarding probity requirements?
 
Spelling mistake corrected chuchu59 :D

ksb11, yes we do intend to have a third party audit to ensure fairness. We are currently working on certification, which will be posted on the site when completed.
 
Liberty Slots is the first licensee of Wager Gaming Technology, who acquired the software from the former owners. We are not the owners of the software, but a licensee just like an MGS, playtech, or RTG licensee would be. We are in no way related to, affiliated with, or in communication with any of the former software owners casino brands.

jetset - sorry if there was confusion with my initial post. We, LibertySlots, DO NOT own the software. We are a licensee of Wager Gaming Technology, a separate entity, who acquired the software from the previous owners.

Unfortunately, I do not know the details of their acquisition; however, I can confirm that LibertySlots licenses only the software from Wager Gaming Technology, no other assets.
 
Spelling mistake corrected chuchu59 :D

ksb11, yes we do intend to have a third party audit to ensure fairness. We are currently working on certification, which will be posted on the site when completed.

i tryed to down load liberty slots from this ---> xhttp://www.liberty-casino.net/index-ty-en

AND IT INSTALLED cool cat and i canceled it so were do you suggest i use to like vegas tech

PS i hope my pc isent messed up
 
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i tryed to down load liberty slots from this ---> xhttp://www.liberty-casino.net/index-ty-en
AND IT INSTALLED cool cat and i canceled it so were do you suggest i use to like vegas tech
PS i hope my pc isent messed up
OMG - I hope these "new" owners are not connected in any way to the rogue Cool Cat & Virtual Group of casinos... :eek:
If they are, players should not walk away - they should run like hell!

KK
 
on closer attention i see that one must search exactly liberty slots .eu but my security sweet popped this prompt

relibertyslot.jpg
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so i hope this is a good heads up and can be explained
lets hope all works out fine R C
 
i tryed to down load liberty slots from this --->Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

AND IT INSTALLED cool cat and i canceled it so were do you suggest i use to like vegas tech

PS i hope my pc isent messed up

I went to that page and I get nothing when I try to download. It's just a dead link on my end.

I'm confused.
 
on closer attention i see that one must search exactly liberty slots .eu but my security sweet popped this prompt

relibertyslot.jpg
[/IMG]


so i hope this is a good heads up and can be explained
lets hope all works out fine R C



Also I don't see what the significance is of the above from your Norton, can you explain? Other than Norton indicating it's bad, but you didn't click on the link and screenshot it as to why Norton thinks it's bad.


Disclaimer, I'm not siding with the software but I don't see hard evidence of anything from your posts. Please explain.
 
Norton warned me of downloading Liberty Slots. But I don't think it was a big deal as it also warned me when trying to download 3Dice. I actually just disabled Norton and downloaded both and have had no problems at all.
 
Rockycat upon doing a little more digging, I think the links you've found are NOT libertyslots, it's a different casino called liberty casino.

If you click on the affiliate link on the webpage you posted you then go to this page. Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) Then there are several other links on this page. Some pages are showing they were updated in 2009. Those pages keep referencing liberty-CASINO.net, NOT liberty slots.

I could be wrong, but I don't think this is the same place at all. If it is the same place then there is something very sinister going on here.
 
Norton warned me of downloading Liberty Slots. But I don't think it was a big deal as it also warned me when trying to download 3Dice. I actually just disabled Norton and downloaded both and have had no problems at all.


IMHO, norton is shit, lol. I stopped using it years ago.

Also a warning is necessarily anything to take seriously. Warnings can be overcautious bs or something more serious.
 
Hi All,

My name is Dylan Mandrake and I am your LibertySlots casino rep here at CasinoMeister - I apologize for my late arrival. I know everyone probably has a lot of questions, so please bear with me as I go through them all.

Liberty Slots is the first licensee of Wager Gaming Technology, who acquired the software from the former owners. We are not the owners of the software, but a licensee just like an MGS, playtech, or RTG licensee would be. We are in no way related to, affiliated with, or in communication with any of the former software owners casino brands.

In regards to the similarities - we are a new group and felt that using a site template would assist in software recognition amongst players. The music in the casino client was provided by the software company.

We conducted a soft launch/beta test of the casino to ensure everything was running as expected. Our foremost goal is to provide a positive user experience for our players, with excellent customer service, quick payouts and an overall great gaming experience. To conduct this soft launch, we enlisted the services of a third party marketing partner. We did not purchase the lists or have them in our possession, we simply used a partner to market to a target group.

Currently, we do not have an Affiliate Program live; however, we are working diligently on getting one up and running.

If you have further questions or I missed any from here, feel free to contact me here on CM or by email.

Regards,

Dylan Mandrake
Casino Manager | LibertySlots
affiliates@libertyslots.com

This explains a fair bit of the "Deja vue" experience. However, the problem is that the template used was not a generic, but specifically the English Harbour website, and through carelessness some old pages were left in that were VERY specific to English Harbour, and nothing to do with Liberty Slots, such as the old tournament pages detailing past EH events.

This has established a clear connection between Liberty Slots and the defunct EH casino that goes beyond simply being an unconnected licencee of the same software. Through carelessness, a damaging trail of "evidence" has been left that gives the impression that Liberty Slots are directly connected to EH, and are thus expected to make themselves accountable for any loose ends left behind after EH closed down. This has lead to affiliates feeling that the closure of EH, only to rise again by contacting old EH players, was nothing more than an attempt to keep the players, but in "detagged" form, something Grand Prive did a while ago.

It should now be this third party marketing company to have a bright light shone on it, as it appears that it's database is heavily biased towards targetting old EH players, suggesting that it's lists have come from EH, or an ex employee of EH with access to the player records after the closure of the operation.

If the list was NOT formed from "insider" lists gleaned from EH, it should cause marketing to go to ANY player who has a history of showing an interest in online gambling. Currently, ex EH players feel that they are receiving these invites because they played at EH, rather than because they play in general.
What we should be seeing is players who have NEVER signed up with EH also getting their fair share of these invites.

It is possible that Liberty Slots have made a poor choice of marketing company, and not paid much attention to HOW it was going to be able to target it's mailings. There are many such marketing companies that are nothing more than "fronts" for the spamming industry, and of course this means they can promise more than the more ethical marketing companies, and more cheaply.

It should be possible to identify this third party marketing company now that we know this has nothing to do with affiliate spamming. Whatever domains the emails are coming from belong to this marketing company, and how they have been set up should indicate how "ethical" they are.

This is unlikely to placate the affiliates though, as they will feel that the "cream" has already been taken by the "insiders" when the program eventually opens, and may feel they will end up having to work extra hard for less rewards because all the most interested players have already been "head hunted". What will REALLY annoy them is any clear evidence that tagged ex EH players have been headhunted this way, and been signed up before affiliates had a chance to draw them in.

It might not matter for players, but casinos DO care a great deal about the affiliate system. Even Grand Prive realised what a huge mistake it had made by ditching it's affiliates and detagging the players, and recently they have started trying to recruit affiliates prepared to overlook what happened, and give them another chance.

Liberty Slots may find they have an uphill struggle convincing affiliates that they have nothing to do with EH, and are genuinely a completely new operation that just happens to be the first licensing the old Vegas Technology software from it's new owners.
 
IMHO, norton is shit, lol. I stopped using it years ago.

Also a warning is necessarily anything to take seriously. Warnings can be overcautious bs or something more serious.

:D i get the Norton full suite as a perk :) my wife is in the business , and under that being a real value seeker i cant let go

and we know what happens if you run more than one :notworthy
thats my story and im stickng to it R C :p
 
:D i get the Norton full suite as a perk :) my wife is in the business , and under that being a real value seeker i cant let go

and we know what happens if you run more than one :notworthy
thats my story and im stickng to it R C :p

Free I get it.......lol.

I use one of the freebies (Avira) and have used freebies for years. I used to go whole pig and buy the whole Norton suite until it deleted a windows file due to a false alert. My pc wouldn't even boot, had to pay for a call to MS. Good times.......nope. lol
 
rockeycatt, KasinoKing, bb28 - our domain is www.libertyslots.eu and NOT the site you referred to. That is a different casino, different company and nothing to do with LibertySlots. As for Norton in regards to OUR casino, I believe this is just because the software is awaiting code signing from Verisign (sorry if my tech talk isn't perfect). I am told this is currently being tested for release.

vinylweatherman - the website was based off an old template there is no denying that. Yes, it was a careless mistake; however, this does not 'establish a clear connection' only an error made on behalf of a designer.

As for your comments about players and databases:

If the list was NOT formed from "insider" lists gleaned from EH, it should cause marketing to go to ANY player who has a history of showing an interest in online gambling.... What we should be seeing is players who have NEVER signed up with EH also getting their fair share of these invites.

It is quite clear in this thread that exactly what you stated is in fact happening. There are many players who NEVER played at the former group that have received invites, as well as many players of the former who have NEVER received invites.
 
Thanks LibertySlots for your consistent engagement in this thread, and thanks for trying to answer these questions. Hopefully everything can get cleared up as I, as I'm sure other members are excited about potentially playing at LibertySlots
 
It's my pleasure ksb11 and thank you and everyone else for the warm welcome to Casino Meister.

We are very excited about LibertySlots and want to ensure the best experience for our players. Any issues, complaints, or questions just let me know. Oh and positive feedback is always welcome too :)
 

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