Adam1976 vs Bet-at.eu

[adam1976]

We fixed it through dynamic segmentation - my system looks at a player from dozens of different angles and tailors the bonuses and T&C's offered (max bet, Wr, frequency) based on a combination of segments you could belong to. You in effect will not see the same site and same offers Chopley might as your play style will differ (table vs slot player as most basic example) and system will recognise that and adopt accordingly.

in fact we turn players loyal quite rapidly after they pass our own BoF of sorts and put up with max bet limitations on available SUB's. If you see the bonusing system i designed (read the thread or try it) its far more flexible than what's around:

1. no real money lock-in at any point
2. ability for player to change bonnie priorities in-game (multiple bonnies don't stack)
3. visibility toward WR and completion % in-game
4. ability to forfeit bonus directly without contacting CS...

While we tried to give everything we could in terms of rational flexibility, i need to retian some form of security measures to not be exposed to what was discussed few posts back. It's a fair trade-off IMHO.

igor i want u to be sure i show to many people how your casino treat the players and how u remove the real money from accounts not only from my account and im surre bryan he agree with me when i explain to him how my cash money make wings

 

[adam1976]

this was my account balance and magically dissepear after 1044 sticky bonous placed

igor i want u to be sure i show to many people how your casino treat the players and how u remove the real money from accounts not only from my account and im surre bryan he agree with me when i explain to him how my cash money make wings

 

[adam1976]

everyone can see here is a real funds ???

 

[adam1976]

ok

i think im not the only one

 

[dionysus]

Ok G.I. Joe
One, threats, even outlandish ones, arent going to get you anywhere. PM the rep, work with him.
Two, one succinct post should cover it- post after post doesn't make it any clearer
Three, you came HERE, so if working with the rep doesnt help, file a PAB


reps profile: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

PAB here: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/pab-rules/

read it..thoroughly -if you have a real case, after exhausting number 1, go ahead and file

 

[adam1976]

i just reply to mr igor

Ok G.I. Joe
One, threats, even outlandish ones, arent going to get you anywhere. PM the rep, work with him.
Two, one succinct post should cover it- post after post doesn't make it any clearer
Three, you came HERE, so if working with the rep doesnt help, file a PAB


reps profile: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

PAB here: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/pab-rules/

read it..thoroughly -if you have a real case, after exhausting number 1, go ahead and file

i want u to know that i reply to mr igor here and i find the way how i find my rights and yes im 100% right because it was the real money there and because they decide not to paid me they just find excuses . what about internet gambling rights? and covers? u think anyone can decide just not to paid u and everything its ok? u know microgaming its a big company u think they accept easy microgaming casinos treat like that the players for any reason ??

 

[Nifty29]

i want u to know that i reply to mr igor here and i find the way how i find my rights and yes im 100% right because it was the real money there and because they decide not to paid me they just find excuses . what about internet gambling rights? and covers? u think anyone can decide just not to paid u and everything its ok? u know microgaming its a big company u think they accept easy microgaming casinos treat like that the players for any reason ??

Did you PM IGOR?

You know the drill...you have been here 4 years.

This is NOT the way to resolve a problem....and we don't need a thread full of screenshots. Save these for the PAB if required....they are meaningless i.e. you could have been playing a no deposit bonus and already met the WR, the extra is removed when you cashout. Who knows...which is the whole point.

Too many complaints are being dealt with in the open lately when they should be resolved privately...airing dirty laundry does nothing for the credibility of either side IMO.

LOL@ GI Joe

 

[Balthazar]

magically dissepear after 1044 sticky bonous placed

What does that even mean?

 

[adam1976]

Did you PM IGOR?

You know the drill...you have been here 4 years.

This is NOT the way to resolve a problem....and we don't need a thread full of screenshots. Save these for the PAB if required....they are meaningless i.e. you could have been playing a no deposit bonus and already met the WR, the extra is removed when you cashout. Who knows...which is the whole point.

Too many complaints are being dealt with in the open lately when they should be resolved privately...airing dirty laundry does nothing for the credibility of either side IMO.

no i deposit very normal with 100% bonous 3000 playthrough as u can see is real balance and bonous balance is clearly real funds there and they remove it because just dont want to paid me they find they are own excuses

 

[adam1976]

What does that even mean?

means mr igor remove my real money funds 3290 euros and he placed to my account 1044 euros bonous balance with 14.000x playthrough

 

[Nifty29]

no i deposit very normal with 100% bonous 3000 playthrough as u can see is real balance and bonous balance is clearly real funds there and they remove it because just dont want to paid me they find they are own excuses

Oh ok....they just sent you an email entitled:

"Dear Sucker,

We saw you won several thousands of dollars today, but owing to the fact that the entire staff feel like going out on the town tonight, we have decided not to pay you.

We will, however, be sure to drink a toast to you at the Congo Bongo Club later this evening.

Thankyou for your generosity.

Regards

A. Shark
Finance and Staff Social Department"


Or....

Did they supply a REASON??

I'll put my money on the fact that they DID give you a reason, but you just don't want to SAY it because then people might get the FULL story.

Give some people enough rope.....


UPDATE:

Ahhh...so he DID NOT remove ALL your money.

The only reason I can see him doing this is if you played a restricted or prohibited game, or were placing no-risk bets.

How about you tell us the what REALLY happened now Adam

(I swear...some people just think everyone is stupid...)

 

[adam1976]

Oh ok....they just sent you an email entitled:

"Dear Sucker,

We saw you won several thousands of dollars today, but owing to the fact that the entire staff feel like going out on the town tonight, we have decided not to pay you.

We will, however, be sure to drink a toast to you at the Congo Bongo Club later this evening.

Thankyou for your generosity.

Regards

A. Shark
Finance and Staff Social Department"


Or....

Did they supply a REASON??

I'll put my money on the fact that they DID give you a reason, but you just don't want to SAY it because then people might get the FULL story.

Give some people enough rope.....

lol not exuglive but something like that many times i wiin on microgaming casinos and i paid with out any problem much more money at once but as u can see this casino they can do what they want i contact microgaming with my case they are responsible to force them to paid me

 

[Nifty29]

lol not exuglive but something like that many times i wiin on microgaming casinos and i paid with out any problem much more money at once but as u can see this casino they can do what they want i contact microgaming with my case they are responsible to force them to paid me

Did you miss this part:

How about you tell us the what REALLY happened now Adam

How about you post the email, or copy paste the reason why your funds were removed.

BTW, it doesn't matter a stuff what happens at "other MGS casinos"....every casino has their own terms, but of course you know this already. You made a mistake, and you want to drag Bet-At and Igor through the mud, and MGS to cover your losses....i.e. you want to BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. Wow. So unique

 

[Igor82]

Adam, like I told you over 15 threatening calls to me and my staff, after your accusations of my involvement in russian mafia and death threats, after i sent full explanation emails to Microgaming and to you both and you lost, after ecogra didn't agree with your case, and frankly employed every humanly possible avenue against all your threats, I'll tell you one last time now publicly:

Your threats that you will come and "make a huge post" on casinomeister if we sont give you want you want are not going to change our stance.

If you think you have a case please PAB it. I won't comment on the case further.

 

[adam1976]

Oh ok....they just sent you an email entitled:

"Dear Sucker,

We saw you won several thousands of dollars today, but owing to the fact that the entire staff feel like going out on the town tonight, we have decided not to pay you.

We will, however, be sure to drink a toast to you at the Congo Bongo Club later this evening.

Thankyou for your generosity.

Regards

A. Shark
Finance and Staff Social Department"


Or....

Did they supply a REASON??

I'll put my money on the fact that they DID give you a reason, but you just don't want to SAY it because then people might get the FULL story.

Give some people enough rope.....


UPDATE:

Ahhh...so he DID NOT remove ALL your money.

The only reason I can see him doing this is if you played a restricted or prohibited game, or were placing no-risk bets.

How about you tell us the what REALLY happened now Adam

(I swear...some people just think everyone is stupid...)

do u understand i start with a bonous balance and i play and money transerit in to real funds? even if i play anygame what is the problem?? why money transfer to real funds if i broke any rule and otherwise all casinos which im costumer years fortune lounge palace group gaming club they are microgaming casinos and u can play with your bonous where u like also is the bonous system the bouble on the left down site of casino software up from the credits and u can see your real money and bonous money so in my case they didnt have any bouble show to me have other system i play and my money transfer in to cash

 

[dionysus]

I have almost no idea what you said, save perhaps, it seems you played games other than slots and lost your winnings?
Anyway - bitching will solve nothing. Lay out the details and explain what you think you did wrong if you want input.
If you want to pab like suggested, do that
Kvetching at the casino wont do anything except make you look petulant

 

[adam1976]

Adam, like I told you over 15 threatening calls to me and my staff, after your accusations of my involvement in russian mafia and death threats, after i sent full explanation emails to Microgaming and to you both and you lost, after ecogra didn't agree with your case, and frankly employed every humanly possible avenue against all your threats, I'll tell you one last time now publicly:

Your threats that you will come and "make a huge post" on casinomeister if we sont give you want you want are not going to change our stance.

If you think you have a case please PAB it. I won't comment on the case further.

i call again and again microgaming and i see if u say the true and to ecogra to me they said other thinks also malta gaming licence what they said to u??? u want not paid me ok i do what i think i told u that u fully unfair with me and u know very well because u dont want to paid

 

[dionysus]

well, it seems like you have your game-plan then, perhaps its best you go do that
good luck

 

[adam1976]

Adam, like I told you over 15 threatening calls to me and my staff, after your accusations of my involvement in russian mafia and death threats, after i sent full explanation emails to Microgaming and to you both and you lost, after ecogra didn't agree with your case, and frankly employed every humanly possible avenue against all your threats, I'll tell you one last time now publicly:

Your threats that you will come and "make a huge post" on casinomeister if we sont give you want you want are not going to change our stance.

If you think you have a case please PAB it. I won't comment on the case further.

i just want to find my rights the money it was real why u remove it from my account for any reason???
and i keep everyday to call microgaming ecogra gambling commision EVERYDAY EVERYDAY I WANT TO FIND MY RIGHT I KNOW AND U KNOW IT WAS MY MONEY AND U DELETET

 

[adam1976]

Did you miss this part:



How about you post the email, or copy paste the reason why your funds were removed.

BTW, it doesn't matter a stuff what happens at "other MGS casinos"....every casino has their own terms, but of course you know this already. You made a mistake, and you want to drag Bet-At and Igor through the mud, and MGS to cover your losses....i.e. you want to BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. Wow. So unique

I DIDNT LOOSE NOTHING I PLAY AND I WIN AND THEY DONT WANT TO PAID ME IM NOT LIE

 

[dionysus]

look, talking to, what is essentially yourself, serves no purpose
and please stop screaming

want help?

read HERE: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/pab-rules/

 

[adam1976]

Adam, like I told you over 15 threatening calls to me and my staff, after your accusations of my involvement in russian mafia and death threats, after i sent full explanation emails to Microgaming and to you both and you lost, after ecogra didn't agree with your case, and frankly employed every humanly possible avenue against all your threats, I'll tell you one last time now publicly:

Your threats that you will come and "make a huge post" on casinomeister if we sont give you want you want are not going to change our stance.

If you think you have a case please PAB it. I won't comment on the case further.

MR IGOR ARE U SURE U TELL TO MICROGAMING ALL THE TRUTH????
BECAUSE I KNOW AND U KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENS AND IN CASE I FLIGHT TO ISLE OF MAN PERSONALY AND I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING WITH ALL MY DETAILS I SWEAR

 

[adam1976]

MR IGOR ARE U SURE U TELL TO MICROGAMING ALL THE TRUTH????
BECAUSE I KNOW AND U KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENS AND IN CASE I FLIGHT TO ISLE OF MAN PERSONALY AND I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING WITH ALL MY DETAILS I SWEAR

MICROGAMING DOSENT GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER YET TO QUESTIONS I DONE THAT MEANS THEY KNOW I HAVE FULLY RIGHT

 

[dionysus]

Good Lord - enough already

post reported

 

[maxd]

MICROGAMING DOSENT GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER YET TO QUESTIONS I DONE THAT MEANS THEY KNOW I HAVE FULLY RIGHT

@ adam1976 : You are being a disruptive PITA with your personal agenda against Igor and we've received several complaints about it. If you've got a legitimate complaint then file a Pitch-A-Bitch (PAB): please read the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ and proceed accordingly.

If you continue as you have been doing your posts will be stuck in the Moderation queue meaning we'll have to approve them before they appear on the forums. Crap like the above will be discarded without notice.