WTF? I thought this was a gambling forum and not a fucking playground?
Sheesh will you stop with this petty bullshit. Azzurri, we've talked and you know Tirilej and I are pals, but I've tried to be diplomatic and see both sides and see where you've BOTH made mistakes in the past. But your bloody constant calling her out and belittling her in public either by name or by sly innuendo is just bullshit. Go back and look through your posts and see how many times you've done it. I have never ONCE seen her post anything bad about you except as a response to you.
I know her and she's just a person like the rest of us. She has good days and bad days and she makes mistakes sometimes. She's not this bloody evil manipulating mastermind you seem to think she is. She's been here for quite a long time and she has friends here. She sends tons of PMs to people every day and believe it or not, most of them have nothing to do with YOU.
For what it's worth and you probably won't believe this either - I think she's only once PMed me about anything to do with you and it was because she was upset and wanted to leave the forum. I talked her out of it by telling her that she should just put you on ignore if it was bothering her, that you would just eventually stop, that I'd talked to you and that you seemed reasonable.
I guess I was wrong.
Chayton I have no beef with you, and actually like and respect you. However I know you are friends, so your response isn't surprising, but I'm sorry you feel that way.
As I said, you base your opinions on what you see publicly, and what your friend tells you. I can't be mad at you for that, but I can tell you I politely disagree with everything you said.
There's two sides to every story. Mine was played out in public, and Tirilej's in private messages to me and others.
Chayton, I'm not going to bother addressing the many misguided comments in your post. Not to be rude, but because I've covered it before, and we know theres no shifting your loyalties.
I do just want to add one thing. None of you know me from a bar of soap, yet you speak to me about Tirilej like I'm Satan himself, dragging her away from you into the throngs of hell.
Please don't take her Mr Satan. She's just a normal person and really nice.
You address me as if I'm sub human, lol. Guess what? My friends think I'm really nice and normal too! Imagine that!
My point being, many of your opinions are skewed hugely in Tirilej's favor by the fact that she has been here longer, knows more people, and has personal friends here. Thus making my reasoning and opinions the minority in the argument, and generally, the minority never comes across convincing, or gathers support. The psychology of man unfortunately says people will lean towards the majority, regardless of how thoroughly they have gathered and processed the information in front of them.
This doesn't bother me, but the reasoning and lack of evidence some of you base your opinions on is.
No matter how often you all tell me how nice Tirilej is, my interactions and conversations with her, have made me form a very different opinion. This opinion won't change, as it was formed over a number of conversations, my observations, third party information, and most importantly, the recognition of certain traits and indicators that match those I've come across in past times.
Despite common opinion, I didn't drive Tirilej out of here. This whole time she has had choices. In my opinion she made poor choices.
My last pm in response to hers, simply stated, don't pm me further, don't pm anyone else about me, don't respond to any of my posts, or reference me in hers. I promised to do the same.
So essentially another truce, albeit a more hostile one than the last few, however still an opportunity to coexist should she choose. It was the only way forward for us. Again, she chose to leave instead.
I think I have been more than tolerant and accommodating to her erratic, overly emotional, and sometimes delusional behavior.
Sometimes a good friend has to tell their friend to pull their head in and get on with it. Did she have that? Or was it just a lot of sympathetic words and encouragement headed her way.
I still highly doubt she won't be back, and just the right number of comments will get her back hopefully.