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    blackjack possible unfair game

    I suspect that in some online casinos the 10's in the blackjack have been replaced by other smaller cards(I am using the 7 red count system which starts from -16 and after many hands the count was 13, which is a little impossible). This gives the casino more advantage as everyone knows. Is there any way to be sure that this is not being happened?

    Also i read that a guy in 888casino.com won 100,000 euros and they closed their account because they claimed that someone else was impersonating him. After that, the guy couldn't do anything to take his money because the laws in Gibraltar don't protect him. How can i be sure that this will not happen to me, if a well known casino like this do things like this?

    Thanks in advance and sorry for my English!



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    Quote Originally Posted by alani View Post
    I suspect that in some online casinos the 10's in the blackjack have been replaced by other smaller cards(I am using the 7 red count system which starts from -16 and after many hands the count was 13, which is a little impossible). This gives the casino more advantage as everyone knows. Is there any way to be sure that this is not being happened?

    Also i read that a guy in 888casino.com won 100,000 euros and they closed their account because they claimed that someone else was impersonating him. After that, the guy couldn't do anything to take his money because the laws in Gibraltar don't protect him. How can i be sure that this will not happen to me, if a well known casino like this do things like this?

    Thanks in advance and sorry for my English!
    Just for clarification: Are you playing live blackjack? And is it single deck? And no continuous shuffle ('continuous shuffle' meaning discards are immediately returned to the shuffler)?

    On your question of getting paid: If you are indeed the person who signed up for the account, have a single account, have been verified by the casino, and the casino is legit (accredited casinos strongly recommended - especially if you're a high roller), have played within the casino's terms and met any wagering requirements, you should have no problems getting paid.
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    Live Blackjack

    I play live blackjack and it is a 8-deck game without continuous shuffle.
    As for my suspicions i have heard a lot about live blackjack. Some of the rumors are:

    1) The live cam isn't actually live.
    2) They shuffle the deck and even when you play.

    In conclusion they can handle your winnings and they can deal you whatever they want.

    I am not sure if they are unsubstantiated all of these rumors but in my experience they possible are, because in the begin i win very easy and after some games i lose my money in the same easy way where i won them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alani View Post

    Also i read that a guy in 888casino.com won 100,000 euros and they closed their account because they claimed that someone else was impersonating him. After that, the guy couldn't do anything to take his money because the laws in Gibraltar don't protect him. How can i be sure that this will not happen to me, if a well known casino like this do things like this?

    Thanks in advance and sorry for my English!

    8888's European dealers are from Evolution Gaming Malta Limited and they in turn are regulated by Alderney.

    Can Evolution gaming be trusted? Some meister accredited casinos use them like paddypower and unibet. And with these ones unlike 888 you can use the PAB service if you experiance genuine foul play by the casino.

    Personally I don't have any issues with Evo's live games, they seem fair to me. The one grumble I do have with live gaming is the "error, your bet was not accepted" and sometimes it can cost you your game survival. Doesn't happen often, but when it does it put's you off playing again for a while.
    Last edited by Rick Deckard; 6th October 2013 at 03:11 PM. Reason: changed something
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    I noticed it too the other day. I was playing live at betanysports.com They sent me a free NBD in the mail. I was able at one point, to bring my balance to over $400 with $800 in wager left. Then all hell broke loose. I couldn't win a hand to save my life. My feed kept being slow. I had to keep closing my browser and log back in. Even rebooted my computer. Still same effect, I switch tables same losing streak. I goto baccarat I bet on player - dealers wins. I bet on dealer - player wins. It was like a rug was pulled from under me. Went to roulette bet on red - black and vice versa. I cover 1/3 of the board. 0 would come. I decided I just wasnt going to win no matter what. Luckily I didnt deposit it there... I just shock my head. As I had the same feeling as you. Its no telling what goes on behind the scene.



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    So, is there any way to be sure that live blackjack is fair?How can i choose a fair online casino? I wonder if it would be better not to play in live blackjack but the application bj.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alani View Post
    So, is there any way to be sure that live blackjack is fair?How can i choose a fair online casino? I wonder if it would be better not to play in live blackjack but the application bj.
    Hello Alani,

    Most regulated operators if not all, have a fair live blackjack. The live BJ has been tested and approved by the appropriate authorities, i guess on regular intervals, so i feel pretty safe with them.

    I would suggest you only go for the CM accredited operators as these are the ones that are fair and most responsive to players and will try to resolve any issue you may have if the situation arises.

    I personally play both live and the application. Only difference for me, is that the application BJ is faster. So more hands, more chances of winning.

    Kind Regards
    Constantine



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    I have mentioned in the past, the 'Unlimited' blackjack offered at playtech's appears to present an easy opportunity for the casino to cheat, because you have no idea how many other players there really are, and the deck could easily be stacked in such a way that regardless of what you choose to do, you will lose most hands... but to be fair I probably have not played enough of it to suspect it is actually happening, I'm just saying that it is theoretically very possible... and the fact the shoes are brought to the table pre-shuffled, then the number of burns is decided by the top card on the shoe etc... it COULD be a real big rip off... !



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    Quote Originally Posted by catapultaudio View Post
    I have mentioned in the past, the 'Unlimited' blackjack offered at playtech's appears to present an easy opportunity for the casino to cheat, because you have no idea how many other players there really are, and the deck could easily be stacked in such a way that regardless of what you choose to do, you will lose most hands... but to be fair I probably have not played enough of it to suspect it is actually happening, I'm just saying that it is theoretically very possible... and the fact the shoes are brought to the table pre-shuffled, then the number of burns is decided by the top card on the shoe etc... it COULD be a real big rip off... !
    By the same token, there could be invisible aliens on the moon who spend their entire time laughing and giggling as they rig online card games.....it is theoretically possible, but to be fair I haven't seen enough of them



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    Quote Originally Posted by catapultaudio View Post
    I have mentioned in the past, the 'Unlimited' blackjack offered at playtech's appears to present an easy opportunity for the casino to cheat, because you have no idea how many other players there really are, and the deck could easily be stacked in such a way that regardless of what you choose to do, you will lose most hands... but to be fair I probably have not played enough of it to suspect it is actually happening, I'm just saying that it is theoretically very possible... and the fact the shoes are brought to the table pre-shuffled, then the number of burns is decided by the top card on the shoe etc... it COULD be a real big rip off... !
    The thing is, it is a very hard game to simulate using a computer programme. I only ever played online BJ once and then played about 50 hands. In that time it struck me about how impossibly lucky the dealer was, and how different it was to physical BJ. The online games will run pretty much like slots, with peaks and troughs in RTP which are far more pronounced than even a card-counter would see with an 8-deck shoe in a LB casino. The variance on a supposedly 98.2% game with a low house edge should be pretty low, but on the computer BJ it seems much higher than would be achieved naturally. This is what makes players scream 'RIGGED' as indeed I did once all those years back. I simply couldn't believe the massively favourable odds the dealer was enjoying, so much so that my wish wasn't to win the lottery, but to obtain a pack of 'magic cards' that the house obviously had......
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