4 of a kind
Repeated violations of forum rule 1.16 - troll
- Joined
- Mar 11, 2009
- Location
- New York
When playing for fun it’s usually obvious that RTP settings are set higher. Every fun account I played on always maintains 6 digit balances. Let’s face it, the casinos know if your fun play is terrible you won’t deposit real money. Regardless, if in fact the RTP’s are set higher in fun play it should only be possible for slot machines. Video Poker is allegedly not controlled by RTP’s, therefore the games should remain the same even in fun play. This of course would mean that the cards, like real play, are still being dealt from random 52 or 53 card decks with expected probabilities.
Giving myself a good excuse to play online again and feeling like I was taking one for the team, I picked a highly regarded accredited RTG casino to perform my test with. The game I picked was Joker Poker. A professional VP player over time with this game should expect between 94 and 98 percent return.
Any session with this test, whether it was real play or fun play started with $500.00 dollars. The bets never were over $5.00 dollars per hand. I kept each session averaged out to approx. 400 to 500 hands or to a zero balance which ever occurred first. Each session lasted for about 30 to 40 minutes.
So far I played 8 sessions of Joker Poker for fun. I played over 3500 hands all at $5.00 dollars per hand. My fun bankroll is at exactly the same $500.00 I started with. At the moment I’m at exactly 100% return. I never dipped lower then $250.00 dollars and highest winning point was plus $400.00.
I had 5 sessions of Joker Poker for real money, approx. 2200 hands. I played $5.00 dollars per hand and when bankroll dipped lower then $150.00 dollars I reduced my bet to $2.50 per hand. Only once after a session playing real money did I still have funds left over for another session. REAL play bankroll…presently negative -$2,000.00 dollars.
Not sure how much more I’m willing to risk to continue this test. At first I recorded for two sessions every hand that was hit. Can’t write at all with my left hand so was forced to work mouse with left hand and pen in right. Working mouse with left hand really slowed down the whole thing, and I quickly gave up on it and just counted the hands being played.
All sessions combined I hit 5oak only once for real money when I was playing $2.50 per hand, and hit two Royals with Joker while playing for fun at $5.00 dollars per hand.
I prefer keeping my own records since I don’t trust anything the casino tells me. I’ll keep you posted if I continue. Would be interesting if you VP players out there would like to conduct similar samples.
I know this sample size is small but not sure how much I'm willing to waste to prove a point, especially since I'm already convinced from my personal past history that online VP is not right anymore. I thought it would have been easier and cheaper to prove different settings for VP using real play against fun play since there should be no different options available between the two. Like I said this is a small sample but so far it has me leaning one way. I also will keep the casinos name out of this till I'm done with my test.
Giving myself a good excuse to play online again and feeling like I was taking one for the team, I picked a highly regarded accredited RTG casino to perform my test with. The game I picked was Joker Poker. A professional VP player over time with this game should expect between 94 and 98 percent return.
Any session with this test, whether it was real play or fun play started with $500.00 dollars. The bets never were over $5.00 dollars per hand. I kept each session averaged out to approx. 400 to 500 hands or to a zero balance which ever occurred first. Each session lasted for about 30 to 40 minutes.
So far I played 8 sessions of Joker Poker for fun. I played over 3500 hands all at $5.00 dollars per hand. My fun bankroll is at exactly the same $500.00 I started with. At the moment I’m at exactly 100% return. I never dipped lower then $250.00 dollars and highest winning point was plus $400.00.
I had 5 sessions of Joker Poker for real money, approx. 2200 hands. I played $5.00 dollars per hand and when bankroll dipped lower then $150.00 dollars I reduced my bet to $2.50 per hand. Only once after a session playing real money did I still have funds left over for another session. REAL play bankroll…presently negative -$2,000.00 dollars.
Not sure how much more I’m willing to risk to continue this test. At first I recorded for two sessions every hand that was hit. Can’t write at all with my left hand so was forced to work mouse with left hand and pen in right. Working mouse with left hand really slowed down the whole thing, and I quickly gave up on it and just counted the hands being played.
All sessions combined I hit 5oak only once for real money when I was playing $2.50 per hand, and hit two Royals with Joker while playing for fun at $5.00 dollars per hand.
I prefer keeping my own records since I don’t trust anything the casino tells me. I’ll keep you posted if I continue. Would be interesting if you VP players out there would like to conduct similar samples.
I know this sample size is small but not sure how much I'm willing to waste to prove a point, especially since I'm already convinced from my personal past history that online VP is not right anymore. I thought it would have been easier and cheaper to prove different settings for VP using real play against fun play since there should be no different options available between the two. Like I said this is a small sample but so far it has me leaning one way. I also will keep the casinos name out of this till I'm done with my test.
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