just unlucky?

[noluckever67]

never been much a fan of video poker but today decided to give it a go and was astonished by the results..i have been sent a csv file of the games i played and will happily give it to anyone that wants to see it..over 200 games played and on the double or nothing feature collected gambling nomore than 2x except on 4 occassions absolutely 0...i mean nothing not a single win now forgive me if im wrong but that does not sound like a fair game to me...i got a reply to my email ill put it below but is this way out of the ordinary at video poker??? i did ask them if i could put the results of these games here which i guess i didnt need to do but did...i woul dlove to hear what others say...

Please find attached the list of Deuces Wild games you've played.
Please
feel free to comment this on Casinomeister, I'm sure all will agree
that you
experienced a very unlucky streak but the games are 100% randomised.

Kind regards,

Andrew
Saints Gaming Support


sorry but if it was random then ace and king woul dnever ever unless a miraclehappened appear every second hand....

 

[Kaynos72]

Post the results please.

 

[noluckever67]

file

Its a csv file is this ok to post??

 

[lojo]

I don't see the option in 'manage attachments'... might have to zip it first or post from an url if it is available that way. Try it and see? or rename it .txt, it should post if not over the size limit.

 

[Casinomeister]

Its a csv file is this ok to post??

I've just added it to the "Attachment" options.

 

[noluckever67]

lojo

Ive sent you an private message regarding the file....

 

[lojo]

Ive sent you an private message regarding the file....

Thanks and I replied... but before I saw Bryan's post.

When you are responding up next to the smiley face is a paperclip. click it to manage attachments. Browse to where it is on your computer, open, upload. It should appear if it is under 97.7k in size

 

[lojo]

noluckever's attachment

Was emailed to me as .txt

haven't opened it

didn't work, let me try again... or noluckever... do you see it as a .csv? You can upload it the way mentioned above.. the attachments you sent me were just the email, not the csv. Sorry.

 

[noluckever67]

well

Thanks and I replied... but before I saw Bryan's post.

When you are responding up next to the smiley face is a paperclip. click it to manage attachments. Browse to where it is on your computer, open, upload. It should appear if it is under 97.7k in size

emm i think brain surgery woul dbe easier than understanding this im not pc minded just know how to lose at an exceptional rate...lol

 

[noluckever67]

heres the file

god i hope this works ill be taking up nuclear physics next.

 

[lojo]

I'll walk you through it

You'll click 'post reply' to reply to this message

Above our typing you should see 'fonts, sizes, A, and a paper clip. Click on the paper clip.

At the top of the window that pops up you'll see browse and upload

browse and find it on your computer
open
upload
+++++++++++

Oops, my bad, just found it, here ya go

 

[lojo]

god i hope this works ill be taking up nuclear physics next.

YAY!!!!!!:yahoo::clap:

 

[Eliot Jacobson]

Request

Please request a CSV file that includes your upcard for the double up feature and the casino's upcard for the double up feature (rather than just raw win/loss results), forward it to me, and I'll run a quick chi-squared test on it.

Also, please post the name and URL of the casino.

 

[noluckever67]

i did

Please request a CSV file that includes your upcard for the double up feature and the casino's upcard for the double up feature (rather than just raw win/loss results), forward it to me, and I'll run a quick chi-squared test on it.

request this and thats what they sent me....

 

[lojo]

What an amazing offer from E.J.

Please post the casino name and URL, noluckever, and copy and paste Elliot's request into an email to the casino.

 

[noluckever67]

the site

Please request a CSV file that includes your upcard for the double up feature and the casino's upcard for the double up feature (rather than just raw win/loss results), forward it to me, and I'll run a quick chi-squared test on it.

Also, please post the name and URL of the casino.

is www.saintsgaming.com thnx and ive asked them to send me exactly what you suggested i asked for...thnx a million..

 

[SlotsWizard]

I'm pretty sure it's just bad luck. Of the 193 times you tried to double, you:

Lost 97 times (50.26%)
Won 83 times (43.01%)
Pushed 13 times (6.73%)

If you eliminate pushes the ratios are:
Loss = 53.89%
Won = 46.11%

That doesn't seem like too far of a stretch, and considering that it's Playtech software I don't think you were dealt unfair cards... but that's just my 2. I will await Eliot's results for more mathematically relevant info.

 

[noluckever67]

percentages

ok so if you try to double more than 2x and lose it still lookslike your getting a fair % of winnings???? so i lose all had 0 return but the % look good?

 

[SlotsWizard]

ok so if you try to double more than 2x and lose it still lookslike your getting a fair % of winnings???? so i lose all had 0 return but the % look good?

It's hard to say exactly what happened in your particular session without being able to see the cards that were dealt to you for the doubles.

Overall your return for the session was around 80%, about 80% from the game itself and 80% from the double-up. I'm not sure how far that deviates from expectation for the sample size; perhaps Eliot or Aka23 can shed some light on that.

 

[noluckever67]

i emailed

there support a good few hours ago requesting that information but so far no reply even though the first email came back very quickly. all i will say there was an absolutely enormous amount of those aces or kings on the second turn..id have expected on at least a few occassions to have doubled thru 2x before collecting..alas not once...quite extraordinary...

 

[SlotsWizard]

id have expected on at least a few occassions to have doubled thru 2x before collecting..alas not once...quite extraordinary...

The log seems to indicate that, for the most part, you kept trying to double until you lost.

I only focused on "chunks" of doubles but here's what it looks like:

3247372830: Won twice, then collected
3247386940: Pushed once, won three times, then lost
3247395423: Won twice, then collected
3247412299: Won twice, then lost
3247416086: Won three times, then lost
3247435756: Won three times, then lost
3247442377: Pushed once, won twice, then lost
3247448843: Won twice, then lost
3247460109: Won twice, then lost
3247470223: Won four times, then lost
3247475500: Won twice, then lost
3247480983: Won three times, then lost
3247493226: Pushed once, won once, then lost
3247519027: Pushed once, won three times, then lost
3247526420: Won, pushed, lost
3247532255: Pushed, won, lost
3247533787: Won three times, then lost
3247540336: Won three times, then lost
3247541379: Won twice, then lost
3247543551: Won twice, then lost
3247545956: Won twice, then lost
3247549404: Won three times, then lost
3247555304: Won twice, then lost
3247571519: Won twice, then lost
3247576704: Won four times, then pushed, then lost
3247577846: Won twice, then lost

So it seems like you kept pushing your luck... and we all know what happens when you do that.

 

[aka23]

never been much a fan of video poker but today decided to give it a go and was astonished by the results..i have been sent a csv file of the games i played and will happily give it to anyone that wants to see it..over 200 games played and on the double or nothing feature collected gambling nomore than 2x except on 4 occassions absolutely 0...i mean nothing not a single win now forgive me if im wrong but that does not sound like a fair game to me...i got a reply to my email ill put it below but is this way out of the ordinary at video poker??? i did ask them if i could put the results of these games here which i guess i didnt need to do but did...i woul dlove to hear what others say...

You won more than 2x several times. However, you kept redoubling until you lost it.

For example, in hand 3247576694 you won 4x bet. You doubled and won to make it 8x bet. You doubled and won a 2nd time to make it 16x bet. You then doubled and won a 3rd time, increasing the win to 32x bet. You repeated a 4th time for a 64x win. You kept going and tied on the 5th double, maintaining your 64x win. Then you tried to double a 6th time for a 128x win, but lost it all.

This type of sequence was repeated quite a few times. I'm not sure what you expected to happen, but the results don't look odd to me.

 

[aka23]

The log seems to indicate that, for the most part, you kept trying to double until you lost...

So it seems like you kept pushing your luck... and we all know what happens when you do that.

Yes, I came to the same conclusion... at about the same time too. I was in the middle of typing my post above when you posted.

 

[hippo925]

i think it's great you guys went through the trouble to help answer the OP's question. that's what makes this forum so invaluable

 

[Zoozie]

I had the following happen to me at Intercasino doubling:

17 attempts:
1 tie
2 win
14 loss
Log fil can be found here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/screen-shots-that-suck.6715/?highlight=intercasino

I guess it is not that rare, but it was the first time I doubled since I got cheated at EH and then I run into this unlucky streak.


I was lured into doubling at Intercasino because it count as wager. But I guess it comes at a price. And I am TOTALLY unable to explain why ALL doubling cards (34 cards) all are clubs!!!! This was noticed by Winbig.