Gambling Log

[aka23]

I had an interesting experience at Golden Reef Casino. This casino has been blacklisted by multiple groups, so I did not have high expectations. They offer a $100 100% match bonus. I increased to $370 after a win and some playthough on FR, then cashed out my $100 deposit, losing my remaining bonus.

When I checked my account today, I found my $100 returned to my account. Support tells me I hd to meet the full playthough, even though they use the MG EZ bonus system, which allows you to cash out (and lose bonus $) at any time. I convinced them to restore my bonus as well. This apperantly reset my playthough back to the full $5000 (50x bonus, not usual MG 30x).

At this point my balance was $470. Taking advantage of the sticky bonus, I bet the max bet of $200 on a hand of ACBJ and won, increasing my balance to $670. Statistically, the best game to meet the playthough on was French Roulette. The expected loss was $115 (-$15 if cashable bonus is included). I lost approximately this amount. I should have ended above $600, but made some foolish large bets towards the end. At one point I asked a support rep how much I had to wager. He said I needed to get to $10,000 rather than $5,000. I called him on this, and he said he made a mistake and it was $5,000, as expected. I brought my total to $600 again playing BJ, then cashed out for a $500 gain on a $100 deposit.

Net Gain/Loss at Golden Reef: +$500
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$12,700

 

[KasinoKing]

Overall Gain/Loss: +~$12,700

You make me ashamed to call myself a gambler!
(It takes me ~ 3-years to win that much!)

If only I could treble my testicle size maybe I too could increase my max bet from $10 to $100 and follow your lead!
You are de man! :notworthy

 

[amatrine]

Re

I never knew golden reef was rouged. That was the first MG caino I used to play at. I never had any problems with cashouts or anything there. I stopped playing there because they did not have as much of a game selection back then compared to others. Im sure they have changed that since then.

Ama

 

[aka23]

You make me ashamed to call myself a gambler!
(It takes me ~ 3-years to win that much!)

If only I could treble my testicle size maybe I too could increase my max bet from $10 to $100 and follow your lead!
You are de man! :notworthy

Thanks. I'm up to +$13,200 now.

When I make a large bet, there is always a good statistical advantage. For example, take a MG EZ bonus casino offering a 150% bonus up to $150. If all $250 is bet, then a win brings the total to $500. If the bonus is cashed out at this point and not played through, there is an average gain of 0.5xB=$75 (either gain $250 or lose $100). If the bonus is played through after the bet on a 50% FR casino, the average gain increases to 0.595xB= $90. With King Neptune's 2/3 FR, the average gain increases to 0.696xB= $104.

I play with a slightly different stategy than above. I bet half on Atantic City BJ, so I have the opportunity to double/split on a good hand or surrender on a bad hand, I usually get to play more than one hand, and I am less likely to be limited by the 200 max bet. If I win on a double/split I stop. If I win on a regular bet, I bet half again and stop on a win. If I lose the first hand, I bet everything (not half) and start over on a win.

 

[aka23]

I never knew golden reef was rouged. That was the first MG caino I used to play at. I never had any problems with cashouts or anything there. I stopped playing there because they did not have as much of a game selection back then compared to others. Im sure they have changed that since then.

Ama

I don't think its been rougued on Casinomeister. Its been blacklisted on other sites for labeling players as bonus abusers and then not paying. I'm hoping that this won't be an issue so long as I limit myself to a single casino within the Casino Profit Share group.

 

[aka23]

I had an eventful lunch break. Note the changes with King Neptune's, Online Casino, and Authorian. I'll post more later.

Gains
1. King Neptune's: +~$1600 (New)
2. Casino.net: +~$1500
3. Winward: +~$1000 (Increase)
4. 888.com: +$925 (Increase)
5. Venetian (B&M Casino): +$750
5. USA Casino +$750 (New)
7. Casino Euro: +$640 (Increase)
8. Golden Rivera: +$600 (New)
9. Intercasino: +$540 (Increase)
10. Nine.com: +$530
10. Villento: +$530 (New)

Losses
1. Connecto: -$300
2. Luck N Roll: -$250
3. Cinema Casino: -$200 (New)
4. Online Casino: -$190 (New)
5. Omni Casino: -$100
5. Kiwi Casino: -$100
7: Sporting Odds: -$90
7. Planet Luck: -$90
9. Vegas Palms: -$50
9. Magic Oasis: -$50
9. Mummy's Gold: -$50
9. Sands: -$50
9. Palace of Chance: -$50 (New)
9. Aus Vegas: -$50 (New)
9. Authorian: -$50 (New)

 

[frufrugirl]

casino glamor

I love this thread, keep it going... Fyi.. I went to casino glamor....BOO Hoo..no US players for money.... I played for free..Im crazy about their games! They are so different!

 

[aka23]

I love this thread, keep it going... Fyi.. I went to casino glamor....BOO Hoo..no US players for money.... I played for free..Im crazy about their games! They are so different!

I also was not able to play at other casinos in that group. They changed their policies about US players within the past few weeks. This probably is related to the BoS arrest and/or pending legislation.

 

[frufrugirl]

looking at the way you play reminds me of how I play when Im in the fun mode.
Maybe it is just having the guts to make the high bet on the high return games that makes the difference.
I played at a land casino for the last two days with my friend while on vacation, we played "milkmoney" (we love the features and bonus rounds) for pennies...two moms playing 20 to 40cents per spin lol.... not much happening in the win margin but by golly, a woman was sitting next to me playing max bet 400 ..started at 80.00 us and ended up with over 600.00 in less than an hour. She was sorta drunk and told me she would never have played that much normally but her husband was over at the 21 table loosing his and her shirt so she felt "oh what the heck" and it payed off!

Do you ever play slots? I noticed you mentioned war..any hints on which casino you like best for that?

 

[aka23]

looking at the way you play reminds me of how I play when Im in the fun mode.
Maybe it is just having the guts to make the high bet on the high return games that makes the difference.

That is absolutely true for the majority of my recent gains. The expected return increases as I increase bet size due to bonuses. For example take a typical 100% match MG bonus with 30x playthrough and FR counting 50% to wagering.

--The average return by only playing FR is 0.2xBonus

--The average return by betting it all (deposit and bonus) on a 1:1 bet before FR is 0.6xBonus. If the first bet is lost the return is -1xB. If the first is won, the gain is 2.2xB. The average return by betting it all on two sequential 1:1 bets before FR increases to 0.8xB, but the clear majority of the time, you will lose everything.

This looks good on paper, but playing and betting hundreds on a single hand is a different matter. I have built up a good sized bankroll in my Neteller account that is separate from my bank account. I am only risking gambling winning, so I am can accept the greater risk of loss.

Without bonuses or similar edge, there is not such an advantage to a larger bet, aside from getting more comps. Slots do appear to pay off more and get more large hits in fun mode because of remembering the big hits and ignoring the big losses with fun money.

Do you ever play slots? I noticed you mentioned war..any hints on which casino you like best for that?

I usually select games that give me the greatest advantage. I play war when I cannot play a lower house edge game or when my losses at lower house edge gains are far greater than statistically expected.

Having said that, I do enjoy slots. I have been playing Mad Hatters periodically. The win that inspired me to begin online gambling was playing slots at Vegas over Memorial Day weekend. I made a single bet of $1 before we left. That bet won $750, which was more than enough to pay for the full trip.

 

[aka23]

I have a lot of updates to post. I'll start with my gains/losses list. My overall gain is up to ~$15,500 now.

Gains of $500 or greater
1. King Neptune's: +~$1750 (New, Increased)
2. Casino.net: +~$1500
3. Winward: +~$1000 (Increase)
4. 888.com: +$925 (Increase)
5. Venetian (B&M Casino): +$750
5. USA Casino: +$750 (New)
7. Shark Casino: +$670 (New, Tonight)
8. Casino Euro: +$640 (Increase)
9. Golden Rivera: +$600 (New)
10. Jupiter Club: +$570 (New, Monday)
11. Intercasino: +$540 (Increase)
12. Nine.com: +$530
12. Villento: +$530 (New)
14. Sun Vegas: +$510 (New)
15. Golden Reef: +$500 (New)
15. Casino Vega: +$500 (New, Yesterday)

Losses of $100 or greater
1. Connecto: -$300
2. Luck N Roll: -$250
3. Cinema Casino: -$200 (New)
3. Trident Lounge: -$200 (New)
5. Online Casino: -$190 (New)
6. Omni Casino: -$100
6. Kiwi Casino: -$100
6. Crazy Vegas: -$100 (New)
6. Casino US: -$100 (New)
6. Crystal Palace -$100 (New)

 

[aka23]

I mentioned that #7 on the gains list at Shark Casino occurred tonight. Shark Casino uses RTG SW and offers a 200% bonus up to $400 with 30x playthrough. I usually stay away from such high playthrough and RTG software, but the 200% bonus was enough to take that risk.

Like many RTG casinos (Connecto, Prism, ...), I believe that Shark Casino BJ has non-random elements and is streaky. The purpose of this streakyness may be to increase the risk of busting and losing deposit. I quickly built my $600 to $1200 by taking adjusting bet size and taking advantage of the streakyness. I then restricted myself to low bets since my streakyness method involves periodic large bets. It was so annoying to see my bankroll rapidly decrease and seeing the dealer draw an assortment of cards to reach 21 several hands in a row. Each time I dropped down to $1000, I'd get myself back to $1000 by higher streaky bets. I had a scare where I could have lost everything, so I stopped only used low bets for the remaining $3000 wagering. I dropped from $1000 to $870 for a $670 gain.

After I get paid, I plan to request my full play logs, and go through them in detail. I expect that I can show that the chances of this being a truly random game are negligible.

Gain/Loss at Shark Casino: +$670
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$15,500

 

[Mousey]

I don't always comment Aka, but I do enjoy reading your logs.

Looking back at my first year or so gambling online -- that, too, is when I had my biggest and best wins. Beginner's luck? Bonuses? Who knows...

 

[frufrugirl]

Glad to see you are back..loved the log..love your bankroll! lol

Im not a high better (see my ..heart in mouth while playing bj thread) But I did go back to the land Casino and try the high bet with Milkmoney - Started with 100 was up $60 within 15min on highbets. Had to quit though because I was scared Id loose it all. So you are right, high betting makes a big difference .

When are you going to try INETBET? I dont work for them, but they work for me! I crash at the other top 2 but keep winning with them.

good luck and keep posting! :notworthy

 

[aka23]

I don't always comment Aka, but I do enjoy reading your logs.

Looking back at my first year or so gambling online -- that, too, is when I had my biggest and best wins. Beginner's luck? Bonuses? Who knows...

For me the difference is one-time sign on bonuses. I am running out of sign on bonuses, so my rate of gain should be slowing down. I have been averaging roughly +$5000 per month. I predict that I will not gain more than $3000 in the next 30 days.

 

[aka23]

Glad to see you are back..loved the log..love your bankroll! lol

Im not a high better (see my ..heart in mouth while playing bj thread) But I did go back to the land Casino and try the high bet with Milkmoney - Started with 100 was up $60 within 15min on highbets. Had to quit though because I was scared Id loose it all. So you are right, high betting makes a big difference .

When are you going to try INETBET? I dont work for them, but they work for me! I crash at the other top 2 but keep winning with them.

good luck and keep posting! :notworthy

It's great that you have done so well at INB, but some have not been so lucky. This is the casino that convinced Lord Have Mercy to give up gambling a few weeks ago and write, "I lost 2k to InetBet in a week playing BJ. I swear to God I have played my last gaming of online gambling. I am also writing my senator to ask to have this regulated or even banned!".

I've avoided INB because I believe RTG BJ is not purely random, and their sign on bonus was not impressive enough to try. Looking more closely at the casino, I see that they offer a small no deposit bonus. This is minimal risk, so I probably will give it a try.

 

[aka23]

King Neptune's sent me a "special" offer for a 100% match up to 25 GBP. I deposited with C2P this time to avoid Netellers 2.4% conversion fee for both deposits and withdrawls. C2P does not appear to have a conversion fee.

First I bet 25 on ACBJG and won, increasing my total to 75. Next I bet 37 on ACBJ (not G) and won, increasing my total to 112. Both of these bets were surprising wins as pictured in the attachments. I finished up my wagering on FR and ended at 120 GBP for a 95 GBP or ~$180 gain. Note that the balance in the attachments 94.50 because I cashed out a portion of my winnings.

I've played at this casino 5 times and made a large gain on my deposit each time. I've won more money at King Neptune's than any other casino. Aside from winning so much, I like this casino because of the outstanding player support. After winning so much, I was offered a special promotion like this. They are the only casino that admitted the MGBJG autoplay errors to me (mentioned in an early Aug post in log). They credited me 100% for all hands that I could have lost, and rounded up for good measure. The games are up to date, and they respond to support issues quickly. Bonuses are credited immediately, unlike most other MG casinos. Payouts are consistently quick. King Neptune's is close to replacing Intercasino as may favorite casino. I am not the only one who feels this way, as they won the "Best Casino Group 2005" award on this site.

Gain/Loss this session at King Neptune's: +$180
Overall Gain/Loss at King Neptune's: +~$1,930
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$15,700

 

[tesla]

wow you have been doing well. How much above EV do you estimate you are doing?

 

[aka23]

wow you have been doing well. How much above EV do you estimate you are doing?

That is difficult to estimate since I have played many times at many casinos with varying bet sizes. I'd guess somewhere between around about 1.6xEV overall (0.6EV above EV). However, only ~1SD above EV since a large portion of my big wins occurred with half bankroll bets.

 

[aka23]

Mansion recently offered me the following promotion. I keep thinking that there must be a catch, but I don't see it. What am I missing?

"Dear Member,

Simply visit the MANSION Sportsbook and place a minimum Point Spread (Handicap)
bet of USD 1,100 (or currency equivalent) to win USD 1,000 on the Pittsburgh Steelers
for their game on Thursday 7 Sept 2006. If your bet is not a winner, MANSION will
refund your losses of USD 1,100 (or currency equivalent) within 3 working days of the
result.

This deal is too good to miss. There’s no better way to kick off the NFL season and
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The T&C is states
"This offer applies to bets placed on MANSION Sportsbook only and is limited to the team and selection specified. Bets placed on MANSION Sports Exchange will not qualify.

To qualify, Players must place a single Points Spread (Handicap) bet of USD 1,100 on Pittsburgh Steelers for their game on 7 Sep 2006

This offer is only available on the first bet placed for this event

To qualify for this promotion you must be 18 years of age or over and have agreed to the MANSION terms & conditions.

The promotion is valid from 25 Aug 2006.

All refunds will be placed into Member accounts within 3 working days of the result.

All personal information provided to MANSION must be complete and accurate in all respects and we reserve the right to request additional information in order to satisfy our validation of this information.

Only one refund is allowed for each MANSION Member, residential address, email address, telephone number, debit/credit card or NETeller account number and shared computer. The refund applies exclusively to the first account opened in the event multiple accounts are opened.

MANSION may at our sole discretion limit the eligibility of customers to participate in any promotion or bonus offer.

MANSION reserves the right to withdraw or amend this offer at any time without prior notice.

All decisions made by MANSION regarding this promotion shall be deemed final.

The withdrawal of any promotion funds will be subject to MANSION withdrawal policy.

Offer is valid for limited time period only.

Players that bet both sides of the event with MANSION will not be eligible for a loss refund. "

 

[aka23]

I played at Paradise 8 today. This is my first time using the rival SW group. The SW seems decent, and I like how you can play all games including Bacarrat to meet wagering. Nevertheless I selected war due to 1/3 the wagering requirements. I busted very quickly. What did it was a streak of losing 11 out of 12 sequential hands and a very high rate of losses following an increase in bet size. Its not enough hands to conclusive say that the SW is not random, but I'll probably never play at another Rival casino.

Gain/Loss this session at Paradise 8: -$50
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$15,650

 

[Rettahs]

HHHMMM, I think I found what you may have missed.

MANSION may at our sole discretion limit the eligibility of customers to participate in any promotion or bonus offer.

MANSION reserves the right to withdraw or amend this offer at any time without prior notice.

All decisions made by MANSION regarding this promotion shall be deemed final.

Right after the game you will get a letter that states.


[Satire]

Dear member,

We are sorry to advise you that your Bonus and withdrawal are being denied!!!!!!!!

The game was reviewed by our security staff and we have come to the conclusion that the bet was placed using skilled players. Not only that but we have reviewed numerous plays which we find suspicious and point to collusion of the players involved.

Ben Roethlisberger, Charlie Batch, Duce Staley and Verron Hayes were working together as a team at different points within the game sharing information which you are completely unaware of is against our quite hidden super secret amendment to our terms and conditions on the website but we emailed you a link to "Amended terms we don't publish, Section 12, Subsection 1834-1122.5" which states "Players acting as a team, wearing similiar clothes or players who know each other or live on the planet Earth can not be used to claim one of our bonus's and if such players enter the field of play you shall forfeit the bonus and we will lock you out of your account just because we feel like it."

Before you decide to contact us with any explanation we would like you to know that members of our audit team have been watching the play of Ben Roethlisberger and Duce Staley for several years and this game confirms that there is constant collusion going on between these players. The manner inwhich they play is not to our liking either and we deem it abusive. They worked together handing off the ball and grinding away the yardard a little bit at a time until they scored. This manner of play shows they are skilled players and we can not allow them to participate in our promotions any longer.


If you feel we may have reached this decision in error, please feel free to email us with any questions that you may have. We promise to promptly delete your emails and never respond.

Have a Great Day .

Support Guy 3 (auto responder)
***Contact me for a great bonus that you will never be able to cash out.

[/Satire]


Disclaimer: I am not bashing Mansion here, heck I don't even have an account with them but it is just a reflection of some of the reasons why I have seen Bonus's get denied in general. If I offended anyone at Mansion I will make sure to edit this post if I am not banned

 

[frufrugirl]

Poor "Lord hve mercy"...I would be upset too!! Thats a LOT of money!
I dont play with bonuses anymore since I seem to have a low game time tolerance -I need to cash out when I HAVE TO.. Maybe Ill try KingNep without a bonus. (with a low deposit of course- I'd throw up with nerves if it was over $50)
I just messed up at Intercasino..using wizard strat no less! I did War first and came out ahead $20..sat on if for 1/2 hr,(Bad girl, should have cashed out.) came back and played blackjack. Lost one after another..sigh. Thought I was going to have a heart attack! Im sure they are a good casino but I dont have a good vibe with them I guess.
Thats gambling!

 

[mitch]

I dont play with bonuses anymore since I seem to have a low game time tolerance -I need to cash out when I HAVE TO.

Frufru

I understand where you are coming from about not being forced to play long sessions. However, without bonuses you are going to lose money in the long run unless you are extraordinarily lucky.

If you don't want to do the WR in one session just break it up into many sessions, it's all the same in the end and you will always be playing with an advantage if you do this.

With a bonus you are the casino! Without a bonus you are a contributer to the internet casinos massive profits.

Mitch

 

[aka23]

Poor "Lord hve mercy"...I would be upset too!! Thats a LOT of money!
I dont play with bonuses anymore since I seem to have a low game time tolerance -I need to cash out when I HAVE TO.. Maybe Ill try KingNep without a bonus. (with a low deposit of course- I'd throw up with nerves if it was over $50)

There is no disadvantage to getting a bonus at King Neptune's (and many other MG casinos). You can cash out winnings at any time. The bonus becomes cash in $10 increments, as you meet a portion of the the playthrough. A more detailed description is at

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

I just messed up at Intercasino..using wizard strat no less! I did War first and came out ahead $20..sat on if for 1/2 hr,(Bad girl, should have cashed out.) came back and played blackjack. Lost one after another..sigh. Thought I was going to have a heart attack! Im sure they are a good casino but I dont have a good vibe with them I guess.
Thats gambling!

I've busted there too. Overall its a top 11 gain for me, primarily because of their monthly match bonus. Most months I win. Occasionally I do not. The only two Cryptologic casinos where I have had suspicious losses with almost every hand are UKBetting and TotalBet. My losses occurred with the same group at the same time. I wonder if this relates to being from the US and US citizens not being allowed.