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Old 24th June 2008, 02:47 PM
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Why all online casino's are rigged

I will be the first to admit that I am a bloody idiot for playing with these money grabbing sites. I have just come to realize that when you play online the games remember where your are in the play cycle, so if you have a win on a game then get off it and never touch it again as it will then go on the take, that little message "refreshing state" is so obvious when you stop and think about it. Also i have noticed that a few casino's for some reason let you win at first and then start taking with relentess abandon. I do not believe that these casinos have payouts of more than ninety percent, I have never ever in the long haul got 90% back, actually over the long term I get back nothing, they take it and everything that gets put in. The only way to make money on the online Casino is own one and let the suckers pay you instead.

I win and retain more at land based casinos where you can get up and play other machines, the online ones just wait for your return and its all downhill from there. I will be putting up a few websites warning of the dangers of online casino sites. By the way have you ever wondered why this Casinomeister site is here? It is because they get paid by the Casino's for every sucker that gets directed to them . Fact! not Fiction! This site makes money by skimming a fee directly from the Casinos it pushes on this site... Fucking human nature at its best. Well done hope you sleep well at night.
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We are all entitled to our own option that's for sure.
I guess we are all suckers for entertainment

I think you owe Bryan an apology here.
It's not good to bash anyone for what they may do for a living.
This is his place for business.
I look at it this way if I go into a store and I don't like what I see I would never walk back into that store again.
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Seems like you have lost much at online-casino(s) and now just trying to blow your steam off...But it's no good to make allegations like you made about Casinomeister forum. We are all humans here and I think it's possible to find better way to complain.

Edit: try Live Games, many online-casinos are offering Live Roulette, BlackJack, etc. This is the same as if you played at land-based casino Just a quick advice
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try Live Games, many online-casinos are offering Live Roulette, BlackJack, etc.
...that's where / how I lost my first 30.000 euros...
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...that's where / how I lost my first 30.000 euros...
That's where I won my first 14.000$ But if I lost, at least I wouldn't say that casino cheated me.
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Hi woody,

Sounds like a case of getting into a bad spot - a place where you don't want to be. No one should allow a casino to kick their ass - it's supposed to be an enjoyable mode of entertainment - not one that causes one to lash out at everything and everyone.

It sort of reminds me of the guy I saw losing his cool at the Luxor. Spearmaster and I were playing slots, and there was this cowboy beating the shit out of a slot machine. He was all bent out of shape and really lost face. He let a machine get the best of him.

Don't fall into that trap. If you need to move on - move on. Gambling is not for everybody. For some people, it takes an incredible amount of self control. For others, it's no biggie.

As for the service Casinomeister provides, you need to venture further than the message board. That's only a part of what goes on here.

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if the expected payout is less than 100%, then odds state that if you play long enough you will almost certainly lose all of your money.

It has nothing to do with it being rigged.
Imagine you put $100 in a machine with 90% payout.
Play all your coins once, and you expect $90
do it again, you'll have $81
go again, and you're at ~ $73
4. ~$66
5. ~$59
6. ~$53
7. ~$48
8. ~$43
9. ~$39
10. ~$35
11. ~$31
12. ~$28
13. ~$25
14. ~$23
15. ~$20
16. ~$18
17. ~$16
18. ~$15
.... and so on... basically if you got exactly the expected results, the longer you continued playing, the closer you'd get to zero.

The reason people come out ahead is because there are ups and downs along the way - that's why it's important to cash out small wins. If you chase the big win too far, you will likely lose everything - simple statistics.
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Any casino land base or online will take your money if you allow them to, it's about enjoyment and self control when you play. When that is gone it is time to take a break or quit all together.

As to making websites that express the dangers of gambling at online casinos or land base casinos, that is a good idea. You would be devoting your time to something that could have a possitive outcome, if not just for yourself, this could also help others as well that feel the same way you do. Here's a good place to start and it's free! Free forums and they have nice admin options too.
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James01 makes a very good point about diminishing returns.
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james does make a good point, if we sometimes would just do that, i get more mad at myself when i dont cash out and its so much easier to blame the casino than myself when im the one that didnt follow my gutt feeling and hit that withdraw button..........thats why i go for the smaller cashouts now, when i can.....there are several posts that i have made and just set back and thought" laurie you sure did just make an ass out of yourself ", we all say or post things at one time or another that we wish we could just take back........laurie
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