Why all online casino's are rigged

[NASHVEGAS]

Originally Posted by KasinoKing

Possible, but highly improbable. If online casinos needed to cheat to stay in business then so would land-based. (More so in fact, because they have bigger overheads). Same games, same odds, same players playing the same way.
If online casinos are rigged how come I've been winning from them for 7-years?(And don't give me any of that 'affiliate lies' BS - I have a computer full of data to back up my results).

The other replies have said it already I know, but to reiterate:-
If you keep losing and you're not happy about it - STOP GAMBLING!
Take up a hobby which does make you happy.

Not sure why you keep repeating this as I find it an extreme misrepresention regardless of true or false,rigged or unrigged,using boni or adding back comps in the case of BandM's,proper money management or not,disciplined or not,etc.....Harry Tamburin (for those who are not familiar you can google his credentials) as I am paraphrasing a recent article in Casino Player Magazine's 2008 Funbook sent with the magazine recently stated that Harrah's has 50,000,000 players (IIRC in the Total Rewards program) and of those 50,000,000 players there are only 3000 to 4000 that Harrah's worries about being consistent winners. Of those 3000 to 4000 of 50,000,000, Mr.Tamburin was not referring to slot players I can assure you fwiw (And don't give me any of that 'only gamble with discretionary income, if fun, blah blah or STOP' BS - I have a computer full of data and correspondence to back up that more than the majority of the few I do actually know on this forum do not gamble responsibly)....In summary, imo, perhaps you should STOP ((stating so often your " winning year after year, month after month" by wagering on slots which just happens to be the casino industries most profitable game----it might be less of a mispresentation if you just said "I am simply a winner" where mathematical expectation along with your posted playing style do not enter the equation of your claim of defying the almost statistically impossible)) as you feel some should STOP.

[Simmo!]

No harm in venting IMO, but Woody, you've been saying the software is suspect since back in March, so if you truly believe that, why are you still playing?

[Woody50]

Why do I keep playing? Why do some people keep shooting Heroin? These and all Casino's play on Human nature, they must be making a fortune. The whole industry is really unregulated, I mean these self regulatory bodies with Zero Government oversight are toothless. If the Casino is ripping people off do you really think a Casino self appointed regulator is going to shit in their own nest?

A few facts that stick out on casinos being rigged are these,,, If you use the same drivers license or Credit card detail when registering that will be a major mistake. I will explain, The first time I registered with a Casino I won large amounts on just about every game but over time the payouts decreased and they got it all back plus some. I went and registered at another of their stable of Casino's and the payouts where just take take take.

Now I went and registered at a totally different group and the first payouts where again large but as time went on they got it all back and plus some.

I tested this out over a few months and I can say that with a large degree of certainty that they track you with your data that you supply them.

The fact is that when you have a win on any slot that little "Refreshing State" is exaclty what it means, the machine starts exactly from where you left off from. In a land based Casino other patrons will feed the machine and lose but you can come back to this machine and have another win. With the online Game no one else plays that slot but you! Over time you are guaranteed to loose all your money.

The other thing is that you forget what games that you have played and if you stick to just the one casino or as I think any associated Casino then over time you are guaranteed of loosing all your money.

If you want to stand any chance of a win you cannot play the same group of Casino's with the same I.D I am quite sure that there is a back room office somewhere that collates all this information and uses it to milk you of as much cash as possible.

This industry is a money maker for the ones running the Casio's, there is massive financial gains to be had by duping the sucker mug punter.

I like what some on this board say, they call it entertainment. No its not entertainment as most people that play are after a win to help them out of the financial mess that they are in. Casino's just by their existance cause much misery to people already in a bad place.

These Casino's either online or Land based need to be closed down, they cause huge financial damage to people who just cannot help themselves by thinking that they can beat a sophisticated computer program that is the pinnacle of technology designed to separate one from their cash.

To continue risking hard earned dollars will in time convince you that you have been an under educated fool. Cancel all your accounts and do something constructive rather than destructive to your finances.

If you keep playing after reading this them I feel sorry for you on your pathetic financial future.

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by Woody50

This industry is a money maker for the ones running the Casio's, there is massive financial gains to be had by duping the sucker mug punter.

I like what some on this board say, they call it entertainment. No its not entertainment as most people that play are after a win to help them out of the financial mess that they are in. Casino's just by their existance cause much misery to people already in a bad place.

These Casino's either online or Land based need to be closed down, they cause huge financial damage to people who just cannot help themselves by thinking that they can beat a sophisticated computer program that is the pinnacle of technology designed to separate one from their cash.

It goes without saying that casinos are money-makers. Every business in every area needs to make money to survive. But closing every casino down is exactly the approach that many politicians assume - stop everyone from playing to protect the few. Ban alcohol to save the drunks. Stop selling drugs to save the addicts. The type of argument that totally misses the point. Once you are addicted to something that bad, you will always find a way. The answer is not "prohibition", it's education and assistance to those few with a problem.

The law of the addicted gambler states that he will continue until he loses all his money. A lot of people do play for entertainment but a lot of people take it too far. A few go way to far. The controlled gambler knows when to stop and stops. But not everyone has the self-control.

So where do you draw the line? Stop everyone for the sake of the few? Or help the few. To help the few, they have to want to be helped. Your latter point about taking up another passtime is a very good one, but it's not that simple for the addicted gambler. Boredom is a factor that sends people to casinos and having them online does make them much more readily accessible.

But the gambler has to recognise the problem and want to implement a cure. No amount of help-groups, action lines or preaching will help them unless they want to be helped. In some countries, the politicians turn their backs on the problem - ban it and hopes it goes away. The 18th amendment. Ooh that worked well!

There are ways the addict can help himself, if he/she really wants to. Ditch the credit/debit card, maybe switch to a prepaid card instead, get rid of online banking and the ability to transfer money, ask the casinos to impose limits or impose their own (Wagerworks). Move to the USSA (sic). Of course it can make life a little harder in other areas but if the gambler truly wants to stop, they can take several steps to help themselves without the need to seek outside help. Some more ideas...

[PapaCasino]

That the point, if you've won enough today.. STOP PLAYING!

Don't try to push your luck so much, I am not so old in online gambling but I was fast enough and I've seen that all. I was playing at 888 ( which is undoubetely one of the most honest casinos ) and won 172$, and the next thing I know all of that was gone including more than half of my own deposits. But that doesn't qualifies me to blame 888 for that, i could have taken the 172$ I won from them and get the hell out of there, but it was my decision, and my luck.

Other than that I've played at few PlayTech casinos, and I've either been not so lucky there or maybe its their games which are possibly rigged... but not ALL of the casinos are rigged, and even if casinomeister gets a small commission from these online casinos, it may help you come up with a good one to play.

If you're still thinking of playing at a casino, then try playing at 888.. they won't give you an instant bonus but still they are far better than most of the casinos out there.

Good Luck

[D!G!TAL]

It all comes down to the individual. There are definitley those that have problems with gambling but they are in the minority and as Simmo says, punishing the masses for the sake of the few is not the answer.

We live in a day and age where everyone looks for someone else to blame rather than take responsibilty for their own actions. These might sound like harsh words to someone with a genuine gambling problem (I am not implying that anyone in this discussion has) but it is the same for alcoholics and drug addicts- they have to accept that THEY have a a problem and that THEY need help. There are avenues out there to help people, it just needs the courage of the individual to step up, admit the problem and take action.

The easy way out is to blame the 'bad guy' running your local or online casino...

[Roar]

Prevention is a lot better than cure.

Always take a bonus where the odds are in your favor.

Never play without a bonus.

If you seek entertainment then play in fun mode. The game is identical except the result can never hurt you either financially or psychologically.

Being a consistent online gaming winner will attract some grief from greedy corporate Casino groups. That pain is nothing compared to the pain of losing.

No winner has ever suffered from a gambling problem.

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[D!G!TAL]

Originally Posted by Roar

No winner has ever suffered from a gambling problem.

Excellent quote

99% of consistent winners have one thing in common... excellent bankroll management- consistent winners are rare and are likely to only exist in sportsbook betting and poker where the individuals skill is key.

...In the end it all comes back to the casino...

[james01]

As I explained before, winning at the beginning and then ending up losing all your money is exactly what the odds dictate will happen. You will experience some ups along the way, but the longer you gamble, the higher the likelihood that you will lose all of your bankroll.

This is not true of skill games such as poker or sportsbetting, because those odds change based on the player's level of skill, the opponents, and other factors.

But with slots, the only way to come out ahead is to cash in on small gains or to have incredible luck.

[cslate]

there is no harm in posting theories........




they make money.....your money.

rigged....depends........

your gonna lose over the long run.....unless your a casinoking....