vinylweatherman
You type well loads
- Joined
- Oct 14, 2004
- Location
- United Kingdom
Still don't get Deuce!
I can understand the issue with a single big bet on BJ or Roulette using all funds and then meeting WR slowly on a slot, but why VP, it is as high variance as a slot, and is not effective for reliably building up a balance with which to meet WR. The method with big bets on BJ and Roulette was intended as a ploy for sticky bonuses, and it is only effective if said player hits ALL casinos in a group with the same method. They cannot lose mathematically in the long run. VP does not give this sort of advantage. The only way to do this with VP is to play for a Royal Flush and then meet WR on allowed games. I could understand why Trident would not like ME playing VP with the bonus (see winner screenshots).
The likelihood of a player of getting the RF is slim, and they would have to play many casinos for this. This method would work on ALL the VP, not just the excluded ones, so I am surprised they don't simply go down the "slots only" route rather than listing excluded games that appear to have little logic for the beginner. A bonus hunter should not be tripped up by Trident on this sort of issue, they are more careful, and will have triple checked the terms, got the relevant tables from the Wizard, and planned carefully (and will probably have a degree in maths!). Incidentally, the high house edge only applies to the single hand Deuces Wild. The multi-hand versions have a house edge similar to Aces and Faces (actually slightly greater), but with higher variance due to the Deuces Royal and 4 Deuces loading at the expense of the lower hands.
A bonus hunter would have actually switched to 50 hand Deuces Wild, set the coin to 1c, and set Autoplay for a couple of hours to do the $6000. This would work on all the other VP games, and would still beat using slots to play out the WR. I expect there is more to this story than has been revealed (has this player done this with the other Trident casinos before terms changed), or Trident have been unduly harsh on a recreational player.
At least the rep has clarified that the terms DO contain a validity span (1 to 31 March), so I would have expected the player to have at least checked the bonus was available for April, but on the other hand I have noticed that these validity spans are often meaningless at other casinos, as the following month sees the dates change and nothing else.
I can understand the issue with a single big bet on BJ or Roulette using all funds and then meeting WR slowly on a slot, but why VP, it is as high variance as a slot, and is not effective for reliably building up a balance with which to meet WR. The method with big bets on BJ and Roulette was intended as a ploy for sticky bonuses, and it is only effective if said player hits ALL casinos in a group with the same method. They cannot lose mathematically in the long run. VP does not give this sort of advantage. The only way to do this with VP is to play for a Royal Flush and then meet WR on allowed games. I could understand why Trident would not like ME playing VP with the bonus (see winner screenshots).
The likelihood of a player of getting the RF is slim, and they would have to play many casinos for this. This method would work on ALL the VP, not just the excluded ones, so I am surprised they don't simply go down the "slots only" route rather than listing excluded games that appear to have little logic for the beginner. A bonus hunter should not be tripped up by Trident on this sort of issue, they are more careful, and will have triple checked the terms, got the relevant tables from the Wizard, and planned carefully (and will probably have a degree in maths!). Incidentally, the high house edge only applies to the single hand Deuces Wild. The multi-hand versions have a house edge similar to Aces and Faces (actually slightly greater), but with higher variance due to the Deuces Royal and 4 Deuces loading at the expense of the lower hands.
A bonus hunter would have actually switched to 50 hand Deuces Wild, set the coin to 1c, and set Autoplay for a couple of hours to do the $6000. This would work on all the other VP games, and would still beat using slots to play out the WR. I expect there is more to this story than has been revealed (has this player done this with the other Trident casinos before terms changed), or Trident have been unduly harsh on a recreational player.
At least the rep has clarified that the terms DO contain a validity span (1 to 31 March), so I would have expected the player to have at least checked the bonus was available for April, but on the other hand I have noticed that these validity spans are often meaningless at other casinos, as the following month sees the dates change and nothing else.