Cipher- The Wizard of BJ

[BingoT]

It's a shame most were buddies to him

It's a shame most were buddies to him Thank God not me But most did follow hiim like puppy dogs and think he was the greatest person around.To think they would have Tons of money that he would of made for you lol
I wonder if he sleeps good at night
I know me will love his new view is going to have JAIL
After all this %$^& He should never be allowed in any forum again.And we all know he will join under a new name.
Bethug great Video keep up the great job in letting people know how cipher is a &%$# Bag and more.
Maybe I can sell him my new book out
"How To Pay The One's You Owe"
I bet when he goes to jail he will come out with a book himself
"How I Ate The &#$# Off The Walls To Make A Buck"
People that do this to others should be......................
Cipher just pay out what you owe and go way
I bet you can count how many friends you have on one hand now.But we know you can careless you got them to pay you and You dancing all the way to the bank you stole from them.
R I H Cipher
Have a good one...........

 

[RobWin]

Just reading through this again - it's HILARIOUS!!!! Has Cipher got away with feeding everyone liquid BS for so long, he thinks people will lap up anything!?!? I mean - read the thing... Heh heh - It's RIDICULOUS! "You will thereby be considered as a co-conspirator etc "

I mean, Cipher, reading through the myriad of history that has unsurprisingly suddenly turned up in Google under your name - this is a piss poor attempt - even by your recent standards.

Listen, we all know you're sat scared, pondering the enormity of your crimes - and waiting for the inevitable knock on the door. Why not come clean now and at least regain some shred of decency - it can only help you in the long run.

Alternatively -- please continue this farcical behaviour! Makes great comedy for the casual observer like me

It sure does Sloster, Cipher is a real comedian...

 

[tim5ny]

Great video Damian! ( if you read this forum still ) Take care!

 

[Slotster!]

It sure does Sloster, Cipher is a real comedian...

You know what though - I reckon he still thinks people believe his vague, pseudo-legal jibberish! He must do to be sticking with it...Mental under the damning evidence, weak partial offer of 'repayment' - and subsequent theatrics... Crazy scenes!

 

[RobWin]

You know what though - I reckon he still thinks people believe his vague, pseudo-legal jibberish! He must do to be sticking with it...Mental under the damning evidence, weak partial offer of 'repayment' - and subsequent theatrics... Crazy scenes!

He's definitely grasping !

 

[suzecat]

Cipher......... legend in his own mind!

Freaking Cheers dude! And.......have a good one!

 

[aodat2]

Hey everyone!!! (suzecat, tim5ny, RobWin, Pinababy69, Stanford, Slotster, BingoT and everyone else)

Don't be talking about Cipher!

You might just end up being one of the co-(what was the word he used again?), oh yeah, co-conspirator. He might have his lawyer sueing you too and take you to court for "deformation" and "consipiring" against him.

Aren't you guys scared he might do that? You might have the Police coming to see you too you know? He might be calling the cops on you too.

As for those of you who thinks Damian Dunlap is good in doing his video, please don't say it out loud and don't support it as Cipher might actually also say that you are trying to deform him too.

Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid of "Cipher".

 

[Westland Bowl]

Cipher says he gonna visit Damian!

Hi Damian:

Wouldn't you know it!! As it turns out I'm going to be in Compton this coming Tuesday. Can you beat that? How about we meet at say 11:00 or so at say 301 S. Williowbrook Avenue there in Copmton. If you need directions just give me a call. Or keep your eyes out for a Black Porsche with California License Plate Cipher 1.

See yah then buddy.

Have a good one.

Cipher

P. S. My buddy down there really liked the Videos and he's looking forward to meeting you.

This is a direct quote by Cipher on the OPU forum at:

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Damian lives in Compton CA. Are they going to meet for tea???

 

[lanidar]

It's the Compton Police Dept.
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[Pinababy69]

Well, at least he drives a Porsche WB. If it's in his name and paid off, he has at least one asset that can be sold off.

On a more serious note WB, honestly...if Damian chooses to respond to that, that's his choice, his forum. As far as you go, you know what my opinion is. Do not stoop to that level, you see how it makes Cipher look. The forums and message boards have served their purpose for the time being. The man has been exposed for what he is. It is time for you to look after yours and your family's interests, and those interests are not served on a forum. Go the legal route. This won't be forgotten, trust me. But you won't do yourself any favours by getting into a mud slinging match with him. It's time for a lawyer, and make sure it's one who knows his stuff. JMO.

 

[Westland Bowl]

I kinda think that Cipher is offering his Porsche to pay me! Wow! No?

 

[Pinababy69]

I kinda think that Cipher is offering his Porsche to pay me! Wow! No?

What year is it? And anyone know blue book value? I didn't take his post to mean that. I took it in a much more sinister vein, but I've been wrong before (many times).

 

[suzecat]

Hey everyone!!! (suzecat, tim5ny, RobWin, Pinababy69, Stanford, Slotster, BingoT and everyone else)

Don't be talking about Cipher!

You might just end up being one of the co-(what was the word he used again?), oh yeah, co-conspirator. He might have his lawyer sueing you too and take you to court for "deformation" and "consipiring" against him.

Aren't you guys scared he might do that? You might have the Police coming to see you too you know? He might be calling the cops on you too.

As for those of you who thinks Damian Dunlap is good in doing his video, please don't say it out loud and don't support it as Cipher might actually also say that you are trying to deform him too.

Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid of "Cipher".

Ah drats...........alas I am already deform-ed.

 

[Pinababy69]

Sorry WB, I missed the sarcasm...gotcha now. I've spent the last little bit searching available domain names and trying to come up with a real catchy one.....brain is a little mushy.

 

[RobWin]

Well, at least he drives a Porsche WB. If it's in his name and paid off, he has at least one asset that can be sold off.

On a more serious note WB, honestly...if Damian chooses to respond to that, that's his choice, his forum. As far as you go, you know what my opinion is. Do not stoop to that level, you see how it makes Cipher look. The forums and message boards have served their purpose for the time being. The man has been exposed for what he is. It is time for you to look after yours and your family's interests, and those interests are not served on a forum. Go the legal route. This won't be forgotten, trust me. But you won't do yourself any favours by getting into a mud slinging match with him. It's time for a lawyer, and make sure it's one who knows his stuff. JMO.

Great advice Pina,

 

[mrracetrack]

Still no real answers...

Cipher...

I have added nothing to this thread since my original post... where I stated I hoped you would respond to these accusations... and when you did decide to post a response on this forum... you used my original post to preface it.

For reasons known only to yourself... you have chosen to respond to this issue in an arrogant and abrasive manner (both on this and the other forums you have added responses on) without responding to any of the relevent questions that have been asked repeatedly.

I have yet to read any response posted by you that actually deals with Tim's accusations against you.

Tim has answered every question asked by the numerous posters in this thread. You have answered none.

I have no dog in this fight... but as an interested observer and participant of online gaming issues... for 7 years now... and a background of 35 years with issues involving gambling... I feel I have developed a pretty accurate insight and perception of things.

From what has been presented to this point... you Cipher... haven't shown or proven anything contrary to what most here have stated about you. You have not "denied" any of Tim's accusations about you regarding this issue.

I'll not add to the many negative comments that have been made about you and your reputation and ethics. What would be the point... it would be overkill.

 

[tennis_balls]

I appreciate this is an emotional topic, please keep to adult debate.

big blue authority figure

 

[tennis_balls]

Well, at least he drives a Porsche WB. If it's in his name and paid off, he has at least one asset that can be sold off.

my guess is that it's 15% paid for.

 

[RobWin]

It's funny that Ciphers Profile shows under Favorite TV shows:
FOX NEWS

I don't think he has watched the "NO Spin Zone" lately though !

 

[me_and_ed]

WB you have way too much patience, with the boldness he displays going through the legal channels will be futile, lengthy and expensive, I am in a business where a lot of personal money changes hands, when one is fu**ing one he is the one whom ends up fu**ed, I know this may sound harsh, however nothing is a better motivator than fear of life itself (or the threat of intense pain anyway), sorry this this is offensive to some but these kind of scumbags hide behind the legal system all the time and think the longer it goes on the safer things will be, which happens more often than not. Good luck with your persuits.

 

[Riffrafter]

Statute of limitations question

I just contacted my lawyer. The statute of limitations for a fraud suit in CA is 1 year from the time the fraud occurs.

Hmmm...1 year from when the fraud occured or 1 year from when the fraud is discovered? In an investment-type fraud, the people making the investments obviously don't know it's a fraud at the time they make the investment, even though it may have been fraudulent from the get-go. Sometimes it takes years to uncover the fraud, yet major lawsuits are often won in these cases.

Worth checking...

-Riff

 

[tencardcharlie]

Sorry WB, I missed the sarcasm...gotcha now. I've spent the last little bit searching available domain names and trying to come up with a real catchy one.....brain is a little mushy.

www.pinasdungeon.com is still available

 

[thetic]

what about www.casinomeistress.com ??? Nobody will know you're plagiarising another website's good name and reputation. 32 Vegas seem to have gotten away with it without (much) people spotting what they cleverly did!

Anyhow that's my first 2 hours at work on a Monday morning catching up on this saga.

For what it's worth, I'm not going to give any legal advice as the extent of my knowledge is that it is illegal in Scotland to urinate in a public place even if you are very inebriated (25 fine for that one) and don't think it's relevant to the case in question.

I too am keen to hear Cipher's side but feeling we are never going to...

I hope that the saying that "there's no such thing as bad publicity" does not hold true. Despite all the negative stuff sure there will be some mugs who get drawn into looking at cipher's website for the first time (like me) and believe the BS and spend $1,000 on the software (not like me).

Commiseration on the loss of your loved one WB and hope you get your money back (although, please do not connect the 2, I would hope you get your money back whatever your other circumstances were)

 

[Slotster!]

Wouldn't you know it!! As it turns out I'm going to be in Compton this coming Tuesday. Can you beat that? How about we meet at say 11:00 or so at say 301 S. Williowbrook Avenue there in Copmton. If you need directions just give me a call. Or keep your eyes out for a Black Porsche with California License Plate Cipher 1.

See yah then buddy.

Have a good one.

Cipher

That's the weirdest spelling of PORCH I've ever seen.

Coincidentally, I saw him in it earlier...

 

[goatmouth]

Hmmm...1 year from when the fraud occured or 1 year from when the fraud is discovered? In an investment-type fraud, the people making the investments obviously don't know it's a fraud at the time they make the investment, even though it may have been fraudulent from the get-go. Sometimes it takes years to uncover the fraud, yet major lawsuits are often won in these cases.

Worth checking...

-Riff

Discovered. Sorry, my mistake. Thanks for pointing that out.