ThisisVegas, Paradise8, Cocoa Casino - out of the pit

[bb28]

Your long winded strawman argument does nothing for your credibility. Instead of directly addressing what CM said, you just muddied the waters and made yourself look guilty by attacking.

"Yanking everyone's chain" ? how so?? please explain before making a damning statement like that. I could say "seems like CM is trying to get this issue out of the way to increase advertising revenues"...but did I say it ? no I didn't. Don't go down that path if you want to maintain credibility.

I agree, Shaun has been very diligent in responding to my emails and we have been communicating on a regular basis. To think that he has not disclosed all information to me yet has disclosed information to you i would think is in bad faith, but I don't believe Shaun would do that. So far our communications have been cordial and we have both been trying to sort out a resolution to get to the bottom of this.

CM, for you to come out with this post without first understanding the current situation between Shaun and myself with respect to how we are resolving this..is well.i have no words.

Are you admitting also that when you did investigate my PAB and gave TIV their rogue status (with a damning statement) that your investigations were not thorough enough ? I won't comment further on where i am leading with this.

If this is the way you want to run your forum, fine, it is YOUR forum....just don't represent yourself as an advocate for players. Nevertheless, i'm sure you'll ave your army of forum moderators to back you up and defend you no matter what.

Hey you know what CM,put TIV back in the accredited list, delete this thread and all others related to it. Pretend it never happened. Delete my account and use that money that you get to continue to fund your boozing, cruising and losing lifestyle.

Post what you want on me, defending I feel would be useless. You have made up your mind. The information I have that has been passed onto me by Shaun, we were still communicating (including with respect to the validity and genuineness of the information)...if your plan is to disrupt those communications, so be it. You have an agenda.

CIAO.

[gid88]

At the moment, I have better things to do than argue with GiD88 who is being way less than truthful here. I'll continue this on Monday. It's supposed to be a holiday for me today

What in the world are you talking about, you've derailed the complete amicable communications that Shaun and I have been having, including those C2P payments which Shaun sent to me and which I am currently trying to reconcile AND in communications with C2P. Again, you've made an ass of yourself by stating that someone on your forums is a liar without first understanding the facts.

Admit it CM, you've screwed yourself over by rogueing a casino that has come back and offered you cash for advertising. Poor form, really poor form.

Let me put this question to you, all things considered and assuming Shaun has sent you the information he has sent me, do you think TIV were still rogue in their actions by not paying me out ?


"Being less than truthful", you spent over three months on my PAB and had indicated that you received mountains of information and came to a conclusion ? All of a sudden you've down a "360" - either your PAB process therefore has huge holes in it or you obviously don't put too much effort in finding out all the information, until of course it turns to your financial advantage..how obvious is that ?

cheers. have a nice break.

[gid88]

Your long winded strawman argument does nothing for your credibility. Instead of directly addressing what CM said, you just muddied the waters and made yourself look guilty by attacking.

I answered his question, and he attacked me first...did you not see that ? My personal email communications with Shaun weren't muddied.

"defense no1.".

[gid88]

At the moment, I have better things to do than argue with GiD88 who is being way less than truthful here. I'll continue this on Monday. It's supposed to be a holiday for me today

you know what, don't bother replying. I'm not going to respond. I just realized that this thread is probably drawing traffic to your site. I'm sorry everyone, i'm not going to fuel the fire and this will be my last post here. I am in communications with Shaun, the new owner of the casinos I'll post on "other forums" the outcome. You could probably do a google search once an outcome is reached and I'll be more than happy to grant access to email correspondence that I have had with Shaun.

As I requested CM, please delete my account and destroy all personal information of mine that you may have in your possession.

thanks.

[chayton]

Since Shaun is a member I'm sure we'll find out what happens.

[Nifty29]

you know what, don't bother replying. I'm not going to respond. I just realized that this thread is probably drawing traffic to your site. I'm sorry everyone, i'm not going to fuel the fire and this will be my last post here. I am in communications with Shaun, the new owner of the casinos I'll post on "other forums" the outcome. You could probably do a google search once an outcome is reached and I'll be more than happy to grant access to email correspondence that I have had with Shaun.

As I requested CM, please delete my account and destroy all personal information of mine that you may have in your possession.

thanks.

I love how the fraudsters deflect attention away from the real issues by ranting like a ten year old.

It's also part of their MO to deliberately insult their hosts and request their account be closed, so they can trumpet on other forums about how they were "silenced" because their host is "in bed" with the casinos.

Funny thing is that they all claim to be individually smarter than everyone else, when in fact they are just plain old fraudsters just like all the others. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the smart ones are the ones who don't get caught.

Looking forward to you actually answering Bryans questions. How about it, Bob?

[Casinomeister]

1000AUD credit card deposit, a copy of the statement which I sent to Shaun. Even signed an authorization form for that 1000AUD with TIV Would you like to see both docs ? well that was a silly question, why would you ?.

I've seen the docs. They don't prove anything. Even Shaun mentioned in email to you that they don't prove anything. The amounts shown as a deposit/transfer do not match any deposits in ANY Rival account during those dates. You're BSing people with this.

Back when TiV was originally rogued, the moderators and I had gone through what we had from TiV for a few weeks. It was a really tough call since GID88 seemed to be possibly okay. We gave the guy the benefit of the doubt. With what we had, it looked as though TiV was acting upon what had happened at another casino - Slotocash. This is where Gid88 had made chargebacks from a Credit Card that was "hacked".

What we didn't know was that when Gid88 signed up at TiV, he deposited using click2pay - not a credit card. This has been confirmed by the casino and Click2Pay. In fact, GiD88 has denied categorically that he has a Click2Pay account, and when asked why is there a C2P account in his name that made deposits into his account, he only comes back with counter accusations like in this thread. And claims that he made some CC deposit from his bank. It doesn't fly.

So either both C2P and Rival are lying about this, or the player is scamming everyone.

Here is why the C2P issue is important:

GID88 said he would be satisfied over the whole thing if he could get his deposits back:

From an email from Gid88:

In the spirit of settling this completely, I'm willing to accept an
amount of USD8K-9K.(10 percent of what I believe I am entitled to)
taking into account the AUD v USD rate now as to what it was back then
as well.

Shaun assumed the deposits had not been returned and he wanted to return these to GiD88, but it turned out that these deposits had been already returned to the C2P account that is in the player's name - when told about this - Gid replied:

...I only ever deposited at
TIV with my credit card. If possible, are we able to have a chat over
the phone. You can give me your number and I will call you or you can
contact me on ******.

He has been going on for a couple of months - never answering the question "do you have a C2P account?" His only concern was why C2P released this information to the casino. Which in fact was normal procedure - no privacy rules were broken.

So by GiD88's own admission, the deposits made in the TiV account which resulted in the $80K win weren't made by him at all. They were made by someone else with the same name, who strangely hacked Gid88's TiV account - deposited and won. So technically, this guy isn't owed anything. It's the player's responsibility to ensure that no one access his account - especially people who share his name

What in the world are you talking about, you've derailed the complete amicable communications that Shaun and I have been having, including those C2P payments which Shaun sent to me and which I am currently trying to reconcile AND in communications with C2P. Again, you've made an ass of yourself by stating that someone on your forums is a liar without first understanding the facts.

I have all the emails. You're being told that you are a fraudster - and that you aren't to be believed. Don't try to turn this around to make it look like it's something it isn't.

Admit it CM, you've screwed yourself over by rogueing a casino that has come back and offered you cash for advertising. Poor form, really poor form.

<yawn> yeah, whatever dude.

Let me put this question to you, all things considered and assuming Shaun has sent you the information he has sent me, do you think TIV were still rogue in their actions by not paying me out ?

They were in the rogue pit as a result of what we had back then. It's a shame that you didn't keep hammering people for answers, we would have figured out that you were lying months ago. You're the douchebag, not me.

you know what, don't bother replying. I'm not going to respond. I just realized that this thread is probably drawing traffic to your site. I'm sorry everyone, i'm not going to fuel the fire and this will be my last post here. I am in communications with Shaun, the new owner of the casinos I'll post on "other forums" the outcome. You could probably do a google search once an outcome is reached and I'll be more than happy to grant access to email correspondence that I have had with Shaun.

As I requested CM, please delete my account and destroy all personal information of mine that you may have in your possession.

<double yawn> I'll save you the trip. Boot in the ass - out the door.

[Casinomeister]

As far as I'm concerned - TiV is out of the pit.

Thanks Shaun for doing the digging you did. Tell your boss you deserve a raise.

[chayton]

In the spirit of settling this completely, I'm willing to accept an amount of USD8K-9K.(10 percent of what I believe I am entitled to)

I don't know about the rest of you, but if I honestly believed a casino owed me 80K+ there's no way in HELL I'd settle for that much less. Just sayin.

[same_old]

Sorry if I have not gotten the whole picture here but from what I gathered here the reason it also took along time to resolve is you had both GID88 and another person (the hacker) who had the same name?

GID88's credit card was hacked by the person with the same name and not only this they also made a deposit into CLICK2PAY for the amount of $1000 and this is where ALL of the troubles started.

Did GIDD88 find out that someone used his account at TIV with a fraudulent deposit and they are the ones who actually won on $80k and GIDD8* is trying to say this IS him and he wants the money?

Sorry I just can't make heads or tails of this- if someone could explain this a little better for me that would be appreciated.

Regards,

Same_old