Another example of a bad run at Goldbeard

[Gremmyboy]

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Welcome Back Nifty!

Been quiet(read: Boring) around here without you!


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Cheers
Gremmy

[footdr]

Glad you are back, Nifty!! Like Ksech said, I may be in the minority also. However, this "minority" we are in has a hell of a lot more knowledge and value than the newbies put together. And, that's the truth!

It seems like nowadays we get new members that immediately demand we listen to them and they feel free to diss older members. They do not "discuss" things, they belligerently "get in the face" of anyone that disagrees. While some of us are a bit "sharp" sometimes, we mean well and WE USUALLY KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT and do not appreciate the smart ass crap we put up with when we open our mouths.

It goes both ways, people. I will not "name" names. You know who you are. And I know who I am, an imperfect but savvy member. And the BS about being "afraid to post" is not only a cop out, it is truly the mark of a manipulative personality, IMO

Welcome Back, Nifty.


Oh yeah, sorry for the derail.

It seems like nowadays we get new members that immediately demand we listen to them and they feel free to diss older members

I have been a member here longer than you yet you feel free to diss me, isn't that somewhat hypocritical.

And the BS about being "afraid to post" is not only a cop out, it is truly the mark of a manipulative personality, IMO

let me explain what I said, it is not worth posting some comments as you open yourself up to people like yourself and others(you know who you are) who don't provide factual rebuttals but instead simply comment that the poster is stupid or has their own agenda or some other simple-minded comment that helps nobody. By the way, you mention "manipulative personality", do you have a degree in psycology? By the comments you make, I would say you probably don't.

Apparently other members agree with me. I do agree with you on one thing, you are in the minority.

[jod5413]

Gold Beard and I have a love, hate relationship. He either gives me everything or nothing. GGLaurie said a long time ago that if you weren't getting two coins, only one here and there, you would get no bonus round. I laughed, said come on, that is crazy. Every time I play I watch for those coins. Laurie was right.

[felicie]

I missed ya nifty welcome back.

[ksech]

@footdr, my post wasn't directed directly at you , so I hope you didn't take it as such. It was meant as a generalization. Lately, it seems like there has been an upward trend of "its my way only" of newbies (maybe it's just my imagination). There should NEVER be ANY member afraid to post THEIR opinion, because after all it is their opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

When you have a debate, you must be able to be flexible to perhaps SEE the other side or possibilities. Of course, there will always be the ones who have tunnel vision and can't see possible detours.

We all know the situation for US players absolutely sucks. Payouts delayed, deposit options dwindling away. Casino choices becoming almost extinct.

Okay, back on topic....


****side note....I do have a minor degree in abnormal psychology does that count?***

[Cleveland]

Lately, it seems like there has been an upward trend of "its my way only" of newbies (maybe it's just my imagination). There should NEVER be ANY member afraid to post THEIR opinion, because after all it is their opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Only problem with that is when their opinion is based off extemley faulty logic. That opinion is then broadcast to thousands which directly effects a business.

You can go around saying Mcdonalds is a bad place to eat because they use cat meat for their burgers. You may truly believe that based on what you heard but it doesn't change the fact that by you broadcasting your opinion on a major forum, you are spreading out right lies about a business that could in turn hurt their bottom line.

One could even argue that someone telling someone else that their opinion is false is merely that person exercising his freedom and right to tell someone else that they are wrong. We could easily argue in circles on this one. But I'm of the opinion that trying to hide behind the line "it's my opinion" is BS. On certain subjects you're either right or wrong.

In a nutshell: I'm just saying nobody should be afraid to post what they "think" but they shouldn't be afraid to have that post criticized. Welcome to the world of facts and ideas.

Sorry to go off topic of the original thread.

edit: Read a few post I missed in this thread and it seems more is going on in it than I thought. Just wanted to point out that my post was directly related to the single topic I quoted and not this thread.

[daveboz]

Here is an old post where I calculated probabilites for hitting scatters within a given number of spins. 400 spins is really nothing, probability for that is around 5%.
With your slot experience I am sure you know better and just was trolling...

I myself have been at 1200 spins once (on Iris) and very often over 800 spins.
If you want to hit scatters all the time, go play "5 reel circus" at Rival Casinos, you will hit the feature all the time, but of course it will not pay much. You can not
both get frequent feature and high wins on the features.


http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ed-odds-8.html

if this is truly the case then feature payouts + RJ's should be huge! RJ's are rare but are factored in. Tugh to maintain a 75% RTP at 400 spins average before hitting a feature though, that's robbery.

[daveboz]

What's with the reference to Nifty and welcome back on this thread? Don't see a post from him.

[Nifty29]

if this is truly the case then feature payouts + RJ's should be huge! RJ's are rare but are factored in. Tugh to maintain a 75% RTP at 400 spins average before hitting a feature though, that's robbery.

RJs account for 1.5% of RTP.

Where you get the 75% RTP figure from I do not know.

400 spins before a feature isn't unusual. If it happened every time it would be suspicious, but it doesn't, so it isn't.

[gerilege]

My 2cents on Goldbeard.

One of my favorite slots. I would compare it to SuperSuits @ 3Dice. Extremely dry outside feature play. This is only my best guess, but I would say if the overall RTP is 95%, then normal game payout contributes with around 30-40%, while feature payout with around 60-70% to that overall RTP.
Also worth mentioning that the feature in my experience tends to either pay in the 10-40 x total bet range, or in the 100+ x total bet range on that game, end there is not much in between. If you get a few wilds on reel1 and reel3 in the feature, you reach 100x, if you don't, you will stay lowish. This is of course a generalized approach, but probably helps you understanding how the game works.
Another example for the feature of Goldbeard:
Imagine a Jacks or better VP game in which you can not control which cards to hold. Instead of a normal full pay game you only get your bet back for each winning hand below (and including) straight, you get 10x bet for a flush, but everything which is at least a full house will pay 100x bet.
In general, games with extra wilds added during feature to an otherwise unchanged reel strip tend to have higher feature contribution to the payout (Avalon, Mad Hatters, Paydirt, etc).